The missing years of jesus

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I have been told that there is a big chunk of the life of jesus that is “missing”, from between his early teens to just before he died, (and his death****** is something i want to ask about later. Did he go to India? Are there buddhist, islamic, and hindu texts that point to this… fact or fiction???🤷
 
Let’s see, a poor carpenter and his wife decide to take a tour of India. Right. :rolleyes:

Joseph and Mary made an annual pilgrimage to Jerusalem. They could hardly have done that and been traveling to far-flung India.

No. Jesus never traveled outside his homeland.
 
Probably he never did (one can really never say ‘never’) but I encourage you, OP, to check the other thread you have opened and to do the same thing with this topic that I showed you to do on the other; that is, to search through the Library here at Catholic Answers regarding your topics in order to both learn, and to narrow your topics down in future. I think the site is especially helpful in sifting out the ‘chaff’ from the wheat.
 
Well there is section of his life we know nothing about. That is true. However, nothing reliable exists. As far as eastern influence, I would suggest that if you read his teachings, you will not find too many traces of Buddhist or Hindu philosophy. I will suggest you will find the vast majority of it goes along quite well with the Hebrew Bible. Now certainly the Gospel of John has different areas of emphasis than the synoptic but Eastern in that sense, I do not see it.🤷
 
If Jesus ever went anywhere he would more likely have gone to the Essences or some other Jewish group. During his ministry he made it clear he’d come first to the house of Israel. It was only after his ascension that his message went outside his own people–as he had commissioned his Apostles. St. Paul went to Rome. St. Thomas the Apostle is credited with taking the Gospel to the Indian Peninsula.
 
A re-post of mine

Hiyas:)

Your user name speaks volumes. However, it is spelled Magister Faust…I assume you are referencing Doctor Faust.
Doctor is a term literally signifying teacher. In the middle ages, from the twelfth century, it came into use as a title of honour for men of great learning, such as Thomas Aquinas (Doctor Angelicus), Duns Scotus (Doctor Subtilis), etc. It was first made an academical title by the University of Bologna, and emperors and popes soon afterwards assumed the right of granting universities the power of conferring the degree in law. The faculties of theology and medicine were soon included, but for a long time the faculty of arts retained the older title of Magister, until the German universities substituted that of Doctor. The title of Doctor is in some cases an honorary degree, and in other cases (as in medicine and science) conferred after examination.
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John Faust was a German 16th century occultist. According to some accounts he was born in Suabia, others make him a native of Anhalt, others of Brandenburg. When he was sixteen years old he went to Ingolstadt and studied theology, became in three years a magister, but abandoned
theology, and began the study of medicine, astrology, and magic, in which he likewise instructed his familiar Johann Wagner, the son of a clergyman at Wasserburg. After John Faust had spent a rich inheritance, he allegedly, according to tradition, made use of his power to conjure up spirits, and entered into a contract with the devil for twenty-four years. A spirit called Mephistopheles was given him as a servant, with whom he travelled about, enjoying life in all its forms, but the evil spirit finally carried him off. Even yet John Faust and his familiar Wagner play a conspicuous part in the puppet-shows of Germany, and the legend forms the subject of Goethe’s great drama Faust, and furnishes the libretto for Gounod’s famous opera of the same name. As early as 1590 the legend was dramatically treated in England by Christopher Marlowe.
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In any instance a troll by any name… is a troll
 
hebrewhistory.info/factpapers/fp003_silkroute.htm

According to the above, Jews were in China 1700 years before Marco Polo.

allaboutjesuschrist.org/joseph-of-arimathea-faq.htm

Jesus may have traveled with a relative and later disciple of Christ, Joseph of arimathea, to Asia and to England. Joseph was, reportedly, a merchant.

I don’t think it would be too far out there to imagine the Magi offering to have Christ visit them in Persia and offer to assist in his education. They traveled a long distance to see Christ so it is possible he could have made a similiar journey later in his life.
 
No proof at all for these fancies.Egypt would be the most logical place he would have gone because of the intelligentsia of Alexandria which had more Jews then Israel at the time.
 
juliamajor said:
No proof at all for these fancies.Egypt would be the most logical place he would have gone because of the intelligentsia of Alexandria which had more Jews then Israel at the time.
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True but we have no proof he was ever in Alexandria either…do we?
 
New agers and their fellow travellers like to tell us that He went to India, and sat at the feet of a guru. Its absolute baloney! The same with China, or anywhere else. Its just another attempt to pull down Christianity. (Guess who`s behind it!)

Saint Joseph was a carpenter; he would have taught Jesus the craft. After Joseph died, Jesus would have continued to be a carpenter to support Himself and His mother until the beginning of His public life.

i`m pretty sure you had to be 30 before you could take to the road as a Rabbi.
 
Hiyas:)

Does anyone who has this as their signature really seek answers?
man shall only be free when the last priest has been strangled with the entrails of the last king
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Kimmie
Interesting bloke!
No wonder he hides it on threads!
Only 4 posts since November 2007! Must have been kicked out after each of the last 3 postings.
CAF members of other Faiths (or none) are supposed to respect ours … forum rules …
Faustian or Dawkinsian? Ultimately, is there any difference? They both end up in the same place.

UPDATE!
He`s now removed it!
 
SunnaB16 said:
Kimmie
Interesting bloke!
No wonder he hides it on threads!
Wonder how long he`ll last.
CAF members of other Faiths (or none) are supposed to respect ours … forum rules …
Faustian or Dawkinsian? Ultimately, is there any difference? They both end up in the same place.
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What I’ve always thought about…in death…no matter how many people are around you…those who have no religion… die alone
 
He removed that signature quick smart!
Yes, kimmie, “Religion: None”. Nothing else. Total emptiness. Total nothingness. Just like the rest of them. Its sad, but at least we can pray for them. And it brings out our own fighting spirit, which isnt such a bad thing.
 
juliamajor said:
No kiddin!
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Don’t know what you mean by that. We don’t know what Christ did from the ages of 12 through 30. There’s nothing wrong with the idea of Jesus going into other areas because it was possible. People did go into India. That doesn’t mean I’m following any new age ideas.

We know that it wasn’t long after His death that Thomas went to India, His Mother went to Turkey, Peter and Paul went to Rome etc. There were Roman cities all along the sea route up into England. England does have a tradition that it was visited by Jesus and Joseph of Arimethea. Who can say it isn’t so? We can’t because we don’t know.
 
The lost years of Jesus concerns the undocumented timespan between Jesus’s childhood and the beginning of his ministry as recorded in the New Testament.

The gospels have accounts of event surrounding Jesus’s birth, and the subsequent flight into Egypt to escape the wrath of Herod (Matthew 2:13-23). There is a general reference to the settlement of Joseph and Mary, along with the young Jesus, at Nazareth (Matthew 2:23; Lk. 2:39-40). There also is that isolated account of Joseph, Mary, and Jesus’s visit to the city of Jerusalem to celebrate the Passover, when Jesus was twelve years old (Luke 2:41-50).

Following that episode, there is a blank space in the record that covers eighteen years in the life of Christ (from age 12 to 30). Other than the generic allusion that Jesus advanced in wisdom, stature, and in favor with God and man (Luke 2:52), nothing is known of this time span. The normal assuumption is that Jesus simply lived in Nazareth during that period, but there are various pseudohistorical theories, popular among New Age adherents in particular, that present more adventurous scenarios, typically including travels to India. The Jesus in India idea appears to originate with Louis Jacolliot (1869) and has been repeated by numerous authors since, among them Nicolas Notovitch (1894), Levi H. Dowling (1908), Mathilde Ludendorff (1930) and more recently by Holger Kersten (1981, 1994), who however has Jesus travel to Kashmir not as a young man but after survivng his crucifixion. Most of these theories are informed by the identification of Kashmiri saint Yuz Asaf with Jesus by the Ahmadiyya sect (founded 1889).

None of these theories are taken seriously in mainstream Biblical scholarship.

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majister_faust said:
I have been told that there is a big chunk of the life of jesus that is “missing”, from between his early teens to just before he died, (and his death****** is something i want to ask about later. Did he go to India? Are there buddhist, islamic, and hindu texts that point to this… fact or fiction???🤷
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The Bible tells us about the so-called ‘hidden’ or 'missing life of Jesus in one simple sentence after his parents took him home from the Temple:

**(“He went down with them and came to Nazareth, and was obedient to them; and his mother kept all these things in her heart.”)

And Jesus advanced (in) wisdom and age and favor before God and man. Luke 2:52**
 
aicirt said:
Don’t know what you mean by that. We don’t know what Christ did from the ages of 12 through 30. There’s nothing wrong with the idea of Jesus going into other areas because it was possible. People did go into India. That doesn’t mean I’m following any new age ideas.

We know that it wasn’t long after His death that Thomas went to India, His Mother went to Turkey, Peter and Paul went to Rome etc. There were Roman cities all along the sea route up into England. England does have a tradition that it was visited by Jesus and Joseph of Arimethea. Who can say it isn’t so? We can’t because we don’t know.
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the scripture says nothing about supposed wanderings before his mission started.If he did wander why? Was he going to gain some esoteric knowledge from India China Tibet or wherever? When Jesus was lost and found in the temple he was debating the elders.Then it says he was obedient.Obedient could mean obedience in studying Torah.AS a religious Jew that would have been his main priority.There would be no possible reason Jesus would have gone a roaming,It would serve no purpose. The apostles had a purpose- to evangelize.Jesus would not have been just a tourist.-he would have evangelized-no evidence on that anywhere.
 
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