The Modern Liturgical Battle Brewing Among Catholics

[Emeraldlady]

You say that baby boomer Catholics adopted artificial birth control techniques in droves, before Vatican II. But “the pill” was introduced in 1968, which was after Vatican II. So, not sure what you are referring to?

The baby boomers were catechised pre Vatican II. They were the age that wanted to use the pill in 1968. Post VII population would have been at the oldest, 4 years old in 1968.

Also, do you really think that catechesis improved after Vatican II? Do you have proof of that? Everything that I have seen indicates that it went off a cliff, especially immediately after Vatican II.

The crisis started after WWII. That era that developed the baby boomers is one of the most thoroughly socialogically studied era’s in recent history because of how sudden and drastic change was. The Australian experience was that when a huge number of men were shipped out to the war in Europe from 1939 onwards, suddenly girls and women had to step into the breach to take their positions in the economy. There was also an added industry, ie. manufacture of weapons and ammunition that was almost exclusively staffed by women.

So after 6 years at war when the men returned a crisis began because naturally women were no longer content to be traditional housewives. The traditionalist movement made a giant effort to turn back the clock and we find the almost comical results of that through 50’s magazines trying to promote the joy of being a housewife serving her husband. (Not that I think there is anything wrong with that. I chose that path myself). But the reality was that you can’t wind back the clock in times of rapid change in society.

So this post war population were no longer buying into traditionalism either in society or the Church. That was the generation where the big trouble began in catechises and necessitated a Council to try and address it.

 

[Emeraldlady]

Emeraldlady:

CONSTITUTION ON THE SACRED LITURGY SACROSANCTUM CONCILIUM

Some argue the actual reform of the Roman Rite went way over and beyond what the Council asked here.

And that was true but at the end of the day, we have a form that the Magisterium approves to this day and with an ongoing renewal. ie. the recent revised version of the Mass with more accurately translated changes. There is no reason why this process is still not ongoing.

Because of World War I & World War II. The wars really wrecked the faith of so many people. Plus Communism took hold during the time period of the wars, and fascism just ended in Europe (except in Spain where it would last for several more decades).

Immediately after World War II, many bishops and cardinals (including some very conservative cardinals) asked Pope Pius XII to have a Council in order to respond to the Wars.

Pope Pius XII said no because it was already a confusing time in the late 1940s and he felt a Council would bring lots of confusion. He also felt that there were too many modernist in the Church and feared they would hijack any Council.

That’s why people were shocked when John XXIII called for a Council. They were shocked because Pius XII said no.

It doesn’t follow that if Pope XII said no to a Council that there should never be another one again. 15 years down the track, it was more obvious that there needed to be reform to resolve a number of ongoing problems.

 

[ProVobis]

But “the pill” was introduced in 1968,

For the record,

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