The morality of allowing Syrian refugees into the USA

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I’m curious to what your opinions are on this as of right now. On one hand, we have reason to believe that any of these Syrians could cause a terrorist attack, while on the other… they are refugees.

How do you feel about this?
 
Love, mercy, compassion, receiving the persecuted, helping our brothers, and prudent vigilance for terrorists.
 
Like Obama has said, to refuse them due to Islamophobia is to show fear. I personally don’t mind them coming in, as long as there are strict background checks. I love all people and I will be more than happy to help them.
 
Well, on the one had, it’s only right and moral to help those in need. Innocent families, with small children, who desperately need help are fleeing Syria. We don’t want to say “no” to them. However, these are Islamic people, and young Islamic people -even some non-Muslims _ are the ones being radicalized, within weeks. We don’t want to put the children of this country in danger, either. So it’s a dilemma. Obama says all refugees will be thoroughly vetted, but how to you vet a refugee from Syria? If I remember correctly, some of those responsible for the bombings in Paris were living in either France or Belgium legally.

It’s a conundrum. We want to be merciful to them, yet at the same time, we owe our own children mercy and safety.
 
It is a dark and stormy night. You are home alone with your two children. You hear a knock on the door. You look thru the peephole, and you see a man standing outside. You ask him what he wants. He says his car has broken down and asks if he can come in to use the phone.

What would you do?
 
DaveBj said:
It is a dark and stormy night. You are home alone with your two children. You hear a knock on the door. You look thru the peephole, and you see a man standing outside. You ask him what he wants. He says his car has broken down and asks if he can come in to use the phone.

What would you do?
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Ask for the number and I make the call for him.
 
I think we should let them come, but do background checks as much as possible.
 
JCats1 said:
Like Obama has said, to refuse them due to Islamophobia is to show fear. I personally don’t mind them coming in, as long as there are strict background checks. I love all people and I will be more than happy to help them.
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Well said. There’s a few bad apples in every lot. No reason to stop picking apples.
 
Instead of endless opinions… is their any “Catholic” moral theology we can use for linear reasoning this out?
 
This is a very timely thread for me in several ways. I have volunteered with Catholic Social Services in the Refugee Resettlement Program from about 2010 to 2012. It was a rewarding experience! I have recently thought about “reupping” as a volunteer in this program, but recent events have caused me to rethink this program. I am very concerned about the real possibility of terrorists exploiting this program and our security officials on both sides of the aisles have not provided sufficient reassurances that this won’t happen. I havent decided what to do.
 
JaKael02 said:
Instead of endless opinions… is their any “Catholic” moral theology we can use for linear reasoning this out?
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Matthew 25:34-46
*Then the king will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father. Inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world.
For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, a stranger and you welcomed me, naked and you clothed me, ill and you cared for me, in prison and you visited me.’

Then the righteous* will answer him and say, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you drink? When did we see you a stranger and welcome you, or naked and clothe you? When did we see you ill or in prison, and visit you?’ And the king will say to them in reply, ‘**Amen, I say to you, whatever you did for one of these least brothers of mine, you did for me.’ **

Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you accursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink, a stranger and you gave me no welcome, naked and you gave me no clothing, ill and in prison, and you did not care for me.’ Then they will answer and say, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or ill or in prison, and not minister to your needs?’ He will answer them, ‘Amen, I say to you, what you did not do for one of these least ones, you did not do for me.’ And these will go off to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”*

Linear enough for you? To the left with the goats, or to the right with the sheep.
Make no mistake. We are the servants of God. He is sending those in need to us for care. How we respond to them matters.
 
AFerri48 said:
I’m curious to what your opinions are on this as of right now. On one hand, we have reason to believe that any of these Syrians could cause a terrorist attack, while on the other… they are refugees.

How do you feel about this?
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Those who will harm us are already here. This war, as Pope Francis indicates, is different than all others. The internet is used to recruit, train, supply, finance attacks. In the meantime we must prevail in administering God’s love and mercy to all who are lost and affected by this.
 
100% against any refugees coming here.

It’s too risky and humanitarian aid for refugees has never been to ship them all over the world…they have border countries like Turkey, Iraq, Jordan and Israel to help them out.

Maybe it’s because my husband and I are both in the military and our lives would be directly at risk because of the missions we are involved with against Syria.

I’m seriously all set with terrorists coming in with the crowd and figuring out where hubby, me and the girls live and coming after us in retaliation.

Newsflash…there is, literally, no definitive way to do background checks on these people.

It’s not like doing screening on people from countries like Italy, France, Greece or whatever.

So were just going to let people pass if we can’t get a clear picture on the past of the majority of these refugees?

Besides…where are we going to house them? For how long? With what resources?

No, I’m totally all set with this.
 
AFerri48 said:
I’m curious to what your opinions are on this as of right now. On one hand, we have reason to believe that any of these Syrians could cause a terrorist attack, while on the other… they are refugees.

How do you feel about this?
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I think about what further suffering they would have to endure, and how many more innocent people would be killed in the genocide if every civilised nation refused them entry based on the fear of a possible terrorist attack.
 
Lily_Bernans said:
It’s a conundrum. We want to be merciful to them, yet at the same time, we owe our own children mercy and safety.
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They are not ‘our’ children, though. They are His. Created and given to us as a gift to provide care and instruction. Trust always that He will be with them. Their future, their fate, is not ours to know, only His. Consecrate them to Mary, then trust in His divine providence for them, for all of us.

I tell you, my friends, do not be afraid of those who kill the body but after that can do no more. I shall show you whom to fear. Be afraid of the one who after killing has the power to cast into Gehenna; yes, I tell you, be afraid of that one.
Are not five sparrows sold for two small coins? Yet not one of them has escaped the notice of God. Even the hairs of your head have all been counted. Do not be afraid. You are worth more than many sparrows. ** Luke 12:4-7*
 
YinYangMom said:
Linear enough for you?
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Great bible passage. But I was hoping you could also address the concerns of the opposing view. Is Jesus words absolute even at the cost of harm to nation, community, family, & individual? I agree that Jesus words are absolute from an “act” and “intention” perspective. **But are they absolute in all “circumstances”? **
 
Kelfa28 said:
How about this…we can accept the Christian refugees only.
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No. The Great Commission (Matt 28:16-20) is about evangelizing to peoples everywhere. We Catholics evangelize first and foremost by our actions, be extending God’s love and mercy in tangible ways to those He brings to us. He is sending the refugees here. We must respond according to His will.
 
Would this be a bad time to point out that the Tsarnaev brothers were “refugees”?
 
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