I only went one time, and the problem was that I didn´t understand the words. Now, I know I basically knew where we were in the mass, but it’s nice to have it in one’s own native language, as well.
Agree clear water - my mind floats and lose interest when don’t know the words
Oh, I had no ideathe EF is no TLM (as I have been told by some rather serious Trads - I love our hard-core brothers and sisters).
Learn something new every day.Sssshhhhhh! We need to use caution here my brother/sister. A trad is sure to see this thread and they will possibly resist the temptation to set us straight…but I doubt itOh, I had no idea
I guess you can disregard my entire post above, then. I have only been to OF and EF Masses, not the TLM, so I can’t comment on whether or not the TLM is “the most beautiful thing this side of heaven.”
What is there to set straight?Sssshhhhhh! We need to use caution here my brother/sister. A trad is sure to see this thread and they will possibly resist the temptation to set us straight…but I doubt it
Everything I said in the post you quoted is objectively true. Assuming the EF and TLM are distinct from one another, I have not been to a TLM so I can’t comment on it.I can’t agree more. Without the EF Mass our Catholic culture and identity would be almost nowhere to be found today. To think there’s some who are so ardently against the Catholic Mass as handed down through the ages just makes me ill and gives no surprise to how the Church and the world in general are in the state of affairs they’re in today. I wish is I could assist at one daily. I would cantor every day if I could drive the 3 minutes to my actual parish and find the EF Mass. Instead I have to drive half hour (and that’s lucky, many more have to drive much further) to the nearest parish offering an EF Mass, and that’s only available on Sundays. We used to do a High Mass weekly but now it’s sadly only every second week and sometimes even less. I hope to cantor it myself every week if I have to but it will take a little more time for me to feel the confidence to be able to take on such a big role. God is listening and he understands Latin.
I’m rather confused by what I’m reading. The Extraordinary Form of the Mass and the Traditional Latin Mass are one in the same.What is there to set straight?
It’s “sister,” BTW :curtsey:
I’m rather confused by what I’m reading. The Extraordinary Form of the Mass and the Traditional Latin Mass are one in the same.What is there to set straight?
It’s “sister,” BTW :curtsey:
I can’t agree more. Without the EF Mass our Catholic culture and identity would be almost nowhere to be found today. To think there’s some who are so ardently against the Catholic Mass as handed down through the ages just makes me ill and gives no surprise to how the Church and the world in general are in the state of affairs they’re in today. I wish I could assist at one daily. I would cantor every day if I could drive the 3 minutes to my actual parish and find the EF Mass. Instead I have to drive half hour (and that’s lucky, many more have to drive much further) to the nearest parish offering an EF Mass, and that’s only available on Sundays. We used to do a Sung Mass weekly but now it’s sadly only every second week and sometimes even less. I hope to cantor it myself every week if I have to but it will take a little more time for me to feel the confidence to be able to take on such a big role. God is listening and he understands Latin you know.
I’m rather confused by what I’m reading. The Extraordinary Form of the Mass and the Traditional Latin Mass are one in the same.What is there to set straight?
It’s “sister,” BTW :curtsey:
Now I’m confused, too. :ehh:
I’m just messing around/rattling chains. I’ve run into people on another site that get really picky about what truly counts as a TLM. Sorry for the confusion.
Not entierly true, there are many monasteries and religious communities that do beautifully reverent OF Masses in the vernacular and Latin including in Gregorian chant. Yes the EF contributes, but it sells those communities that do maintain Catholic tradition in the OF short, to claim that only the EF is responsible.I can’t agree more. Without the EF Mass our Catholic culture and identity would be almost nowhere to be found today. To think there’s some who are so ardently against the Catholic Mass as handed down through the ages just makes me ill and gives no surprise to how the Church and the world in general are in the state of affairs they’re in today. I wish I could assist at one daily. I would cantor every day if I could drive the 3 minutes to my actual parish and find the EF Mass. Instead I have to drive half hour (and that’s lucky, many more have to drive much further) to the nearest parish offering an EF Mass, and that’s only available on Sundays. We used to do a Sung Mass weekly but now it’s sadly only every second week and sometimes even less. I hope to cantor it myself every week if I have to but it will take a little more time for me to feel the confidence to be able to take on such a big role. God is listening and he understands Latin you know.
I’m rather confused by what I’m reading. The Extraordinary Form of the Mass and the Traditional Latin Mass are one in the same.
Yes, they are, although more specifically the EF is the Mass celebrated according to the 1962 liturgical books.
I suppose that’s true. I’ve forgotten about the Oratory of St. Philip Neri and a few others. The Benedictine monastery near me does some of the propers in Latin Gregorian chant, yet it’s just not the same at all (and no one’s actually taught those guys how to sing). The ordinaries have been rewritten in English and hardly sound like chant as much of the characteristics of chant have been removed. Also hearing them sing O saving victim at expositions leaves me longing for O salutaris hostia.
It’s nothing to do with preference, it’s just what the Church has deemed acceptable throughout the ages and as has been handed down to us from previous generations. What we have now I’m afraid came out of something of a rejection of that. I have to wonder what would have to be going through someone’s mind to be so ardently against the Catholic Mass as it’s been known for centuries upon centuries.
“Traditional Latin Mass” is pretty clear in its meaning to me.
I suppose that’s true. I’ve forgotten about the Oratory of St. Philip Neri and a few others. The Benedictine monastery near me does some of the propers in Latin Gregorian chant, yet it’s just not the same at all (and no one’s actually taught those guys how to sing). The ordinaries have been rewritten in English and hardly sound like chant as much of the characteristics of chant have been removed. Also hearing them sing O saving victim at expositions leaves me longing for O salutaris hostia.
For me it’s little to do with preference and more to do with what the Church has deemed acceptable throughout the ages and as has been handed down to us from previous generations. What we have for the most part now I’m afraid came out of something of a rejection of that. I have to wonder what would have to be going through someone’s mind to be so ardently against the Catholic Mass as it’s been known for centuries upon centuries, as far too many Catholics seem to be.
“Traditional Latin Mass” is pretty clear in its meaning to me.
As comedian LM-supporting Bill Murray has said recently, “there’s a vibration to those [Latin] words.”