The moving of Holy Days

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Why has the Church moved Holy Days to the nearest Sunday ??

And what is the Octave of Corpus Christi ??

Does all Holy Days have an Octave in which it can be celebrated.

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Flos.

PS. My previous post was removed, without knowing where it went.

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The Octave of Corpus Christi is no longer in effect, having been removed in 1956. In the 1970 calendar there are only 2 Octaves- Nativity and Resurrection.

Before 1956 the following feasts had Octaves:

Resurrection, Pentecost, Epiphany,Corpus Christi, Nativity, Ascension, Sacred Heart,Immaculate Conception, Assumption, Nativity of S. John the Baptist, St. Joseph, Ss. Peter and Paul, All Saints, Nativity of the BVM, St. John the Evangelist, St. Stephen, Holy Innocents, (Comites Christi), St. Lawrence, and then Patrons (of church, town, city, country, etc.). These Octaves were not of equal rank- there were six types.
 
Flos_Campi said:
Why has the Church moved Holy Days to the nearest Sunday ??

And what is the Octave of Corpus Christi ??

Does all Holy Days have an Octave in which it can be celebrated.

Thankyou
Flos.

PS. My previous post was removed, without knowing where it went.

😊
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Observation of Holy Days are up to the local bishops. St. Joseph’s Day, Sts. Peter & Paul are also Holy Days of obligation, but the bishops of this country have chosen not to observe them. The same is with Epiphany (January 6th) and Corpus Christi (the Thursday after Trinity Sunday.) However, the Vatican states that with these last two Holy Days, if a country choses not to observe them as Holy Days, then they must observe them on the following Sunday. And so we have the custom of this country to move Holy Days to the nearest Sunday… This has happened with Ascension Thursday. 3/4 of the USA have moved this day to what should be the 7th Sunday in Paschaltide.

On the Pre-Vatican II calendar many Holy Days had an Octave: Epiphany, Ascension Thursday, Pentecost, Corpus Christi, The Sacred Heart, etc. Over the years many of these have been dropped, now only two are observed on the Universal Calendar: Chirstmas and Easter. However, some dioceses and religious orders may choose to still observe the old octaves. Those who worship at Indult parishes still follow the old calendar and observe these octaves.
 
Psalm45_9 said:
On the Pre-Vatican II calendar many Holy Days had an Octave: Epiphany, Ascension Thursday, Pentecost, Corpus Christi, The Sacred Heart, etc. Over the years many of these have been dropped, now only two are observed on the Universal Calendar: Chirstmas and Easter. However, some dioceses and religious orders may choose to still observe the old octaves. Those who worship at Indult parishes still follow the old calendar and observe these octaves.
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It is my understanding that the Indult parishes follow the 1962 calendar? which has then only one more Octave- of Pentecost. But someone on the Traditional Catholic subforum mentioned that the ICRSS does have pre-1960 practices, so…
 
AJV said:
The Octave of Corpus Christi is no longer in effect, having been removed in 1956. In the 1970 calendar there are only 2 Octaves- Nativity and Resurrection.

Before 1956 the following feasts had Octaves:

Resurrection, Pentecost, Epiphany,Corpus Christi, Nativity, Ascension, Sacred Heart,Immaculate Conception, Assumption, Nativity of S. John the Baptist, St. Joseph, Ss. Peter and Paul, All Saints, Nativity of the BVM, St. John the Evangelist, St. Stephen, Holy Innocents, (Comites Christi), St. Lawrence, and then Patrons (of church, town, city, country, etc.). These Octaves were not of equal rank- there were six types.
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:hypno: the pre-Vatican 2 calendar is all a bit :whacky: headache inducing to me.
 
Psalm45_9 said:
Observation of Holy Days are up to the local bishops. St. Joseph’s Day, Sts. Peter & Paul are also Holy Days of obligation, but the bishops of this country have chosen not to observe them. The same is with Epiphany (January 6th) and Corpus Christi (the Thursday after Trinity Sunday.) However, the Vatican states that with these last two Holy Days, if a country choses not to observe them as Holy Days, then they must observe them on the following Sunday.
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That can’t be completely accurate – In the US the Epiphany is sometimes deferred to the following Sunday and sometimes anticipated on the preceding Sunday (and very occasionally falls properly on Sunday Jan 6)

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So that’s what happened. I go away for 30 years and look what happens. They move all the Holy Days. 🙂

Seriously, I had no idea that Ascension had been moved or why. Thanks for starting this thread.
 
Beachcomber said:
So that’s what happened. I go away for 30 years and look what happens. They move all the Holy Days. 🙂

Seriously, I had no idea that Ascension had been moved or why. Thanks for starting this thread.
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Hi Beachcomber,
Have you been on a desert Island somewhere for 30 yrs. ??😉

Jesting of course. 👍
 
Thank you everyone for your replies and guidance on the matter of Holy Days.

Brilliant !👍
 
tee_eff_em said:
That can’t be completely accurate – In the US the Epiphany is sometimes deferred to the following Sunday and sometimes anticipated on the preceding Sunday (and very occasionally falls properly on Sunday Jan 6)

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tee
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You are right, Epiphany is observed on the Sunday after New Year’s Day. Anywhere from January 2nd-6th. This year it will be observed on its traditional date as well as our Lord’s Baptism (January 13th.) The Baptism of the Lord was originally the octave day of Epiphany. So this year the Octave of Epiphany has made an unoffical come-back!
 
Beachcomber said:
So that’s what happened. I go away for 30 years and look what happens. They move all the Holy Days. 🙂

Seriously, I had no idea that Ascension had been moved or why. Thanks for starting this thread.
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Well, it depends on where you live in the US, here in the Diocese of Syracuse, as well as all the Dioceses of New York State observe the Ascension on its traditional day, also Pennsylvania, the New England States, and Nebraska. The Archdiocese of Baltimore for a long time observed it on its traditional date, but not anymore. That is discouraging, it was the origanal Archdiocese of the the entire 13 colonies!

As for Epiphany and Corpus Christi, I guess even in the pre-Vatican II days, they were never observed as Holy Days of Obligation. So they were observed on their traditional dates, but no one was obligated to attend Mass. Vatican II said, no you will observe these events and you can do it on a Sunday to make it “easier” for the faithful. Come on, what’s two more Holy Days?
 
Psalm45_9 said:
You are right, Epiphany is observed on the Sunday after New Year’s Day. Anywhere from January 2nd-6th.
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I think you mean between 2-8-Jan.
Psalm45_9 said:
As for Epiphany and Corpus Christi, I guess even in the pre-Vatican II days, they were never observed as Holy Days of Obligation. So they were observed on their traditional dates, but no one was obligated to attend Mass. Vatican II said, no you will observe these events and you can do it on a Sunday to make it “easier” for the faithful. Come on, what’s two more Holy Days?
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Vatican II said this? Or are you quoting the infamous and much maligned Spirit of Vatican II?

tee
 
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