The murdered French Priest

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How can God let this happen? Especially to a priest of all people?.

I know you cant answer it, but more for a discussion really. I asked a question last week “Why do we pray?”. It got me thinking again. We pray for world peace, for ourselves and thousands of other reasons, yet when this happens I think to myself What is God doing about I.S.and everything else we pray for?.
 
God allows freedom of will for both good and bad people and does not take that away.

Perhaps, God placed this 86 year old priest in this position, so that others could be saved ?
We don’t know.

Either way, that priest is in heaven today and I’m sure he’s asking the Lord to forgive the men who killed him.

Jim
 
JimR-OCDS said:
God allows freedom of will for both good and bad people and does not take that away.

Perhaps, God placed this 86 year old priest in this position, so that others could be saved ?
We don’t know.

Either way, that priest is in heaven today and I’m sure he’s asking the Lord to forgive the men who killed him.

Jim
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Amen! And that priest is now enjoying the Beatific vision in an ecstasy of love forever.
 
JimR-OCDS said:
God allows freedom of will for both good and bad people and does not take that away.

Perhaps, God placed this 86 year old priest in this position, so that others could be saved ?
We don’t know.

Either way, that priest is in heaven today and I’m sure he’s asking the Lord to forgive the men who killed him.

Jim
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Yeap!

The blood of the martyrs is the seed of the Church.

Nothing makes society take our faith more seriously than watching the martyrs and our own individual approaching death.
 
JimR-OCDS said:
God allows freedom of will for both good and bad people and does not take that away.

Perhaps, God placed this 86 year old priest in this position, so that others could be saved ?
We don’t know.

Either way, that priest is in heaven today and I’m sure he’s asking the Lord to forgive the men who killed him.

Jim
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Amen.
 
Trotters80 said:
How can God let this happen? Especially to a priest of all people?.

I know you cant answer it, but more for a discussion really. I asked a question last week “Why do we pray?”. It got me thinking again. We pray for world peace, for ourselves and thousands of other reasons, yet when this happens I think to myself What is God doing about I.S.and everything else we pray for?.
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The answer is we don’t know. While every single human life is precious, and this was a priest, a man of G-d, think about tragedies on a much larger scale, such as natural disasters (earthquakes, tsunamis, tornadoes, fires), mass murders, including holocausts and genocides (Nazi Germany, Cambodia, Rwanda, Armenia), as well as terminal and disfiguring illnesses, chronic physical and emotional pain, and so on. Why does G-d allow these tragic things to occur?
 
All other things being equal, the Padre was 84(?) years old.

Is a death by martyrdom really so much more hideous than being saved for a natural death, which might be equally ugly and uncomfortable?

Remember that in the Apocalypse, those who “were beheaded” for the Kingdom are shown reigning in Heaven. Not a sorry outcome, eh?

And on the Feast of SS. Peter and Paul, we extol the Kingdom that Saint Paul “gained by the sword.” He never used a sword; it was used on him.

May God have mercy on all who were involved in this sorrowful event.

ICXC NIKA
 
GEddie said:
All other things being equal, the Padre was 84(?) years old.

Is a death by martyrdom really so much more hideous than being saved for a natural death, which might be equally ugly and uncomfortable?

Remember that in the Apocalypse, those who “were beheaded” for the Kingdom are shown reigning in Heaven. Not a sorry outcome, eh?

And on the Feast of SS. Peter and Paul, we extol the Kingdom that Saint Paul “gained by the sword.” He never used a sword; it was used on him.

May God have mercy on all who were involved in this sorrowful event.

ICXC NIKA
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My thoughts were something along this line. Most of the apostles were killed in very brutal ways (John being the sole exception) and well, what were they? They were priests.
 
Dorothy said:
Amen! And that priest is now enjoying the Beatific vision in an ecstasy of love forever.
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It can only be as such. Nonetheless, his death (though unfortunate, of course) served to show the truth about radical Islamic terrorism even further, though it is shown constantly these days, to the ignorance of some on the left (I won’t name names).

He is a martyr, so he has gained (cf. Matthew 16:25, Philippians 1:21).

May God bless the priest.
 
adamhovey1988 said:
My thoughts were something along this line. Most of the apostles were killed in very brutal ways (John being the sole exception) and well, what were they? They were priests.
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I’m a big chicken… I would much rather go peacefully in my sleep 😊
 
phil19034 said:
I’m a big chicken… I would much rather go peacefully in my sleep 😊
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Maybe I’d rather die that way, but I have no way of knowing when or how I’ll die. If I were in a position, where I knew I was going to die, say be killed, I would ask God to forgive my killers. One of my favourite martyrs is Bl. Miguel Pro, who quite literally blessed the folks responsible for his death. And his last words were “Viva Cristo Rey”! Even then, he didn’t die immediately, as was then shot at point blank range.
 
“I hope I die peacefully in my sleep, like Gramps, not screaming in terror like the passengers in his car”

----UNKNOWN.
 
adamhovey1988 said:
My thoughts were something along this line. Most of the apostles were killed in very brutal ways (John being the sole exception) and well, what were they? They were priests.
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But werent the people who were responsible for them being killed, punished in some way by God?

Kind of like all the soldiers who tried to follow the jews into the Red sea, they were swallowed up for what they tried to do against Gods chosen people, among few other events where people or groups met untimely/ violent deaths?
 
Hatikvah said:
It can only be as such. Nonetheless, his death (though unfortunate, of course) served to show the truth about radical Islamic terrorism even further, though it is shown constantly these days, to the ignorance of some on the left (I won’t name names).

He is a martyr, so he has gained (cf. Matthew 16:25, Philippians 1:21).

May God bless the priest.
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It depends. According to God writing through Paul, handing over your body so that you may boast will gain you NOTHING if you don’t have love.
 
Never in all my 73 years of a hard and much persecuted life have I ever even thought of God allowing or being responsible for my ills or anyone else’s.

The disasters of most of our lives are caused by the sins of others. And in natural disasters, we are given the means and the ability to help and relieve.

Please do not blame God… 👍
 
god permits such things in way to show how merciful he is to those who commited the sinful acts
 
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