The Mutability of Tradition

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I think there is a place within tradition for liturgical diversity. The Church has always allowed for the diversity of the different rites. But there is still a limit. But tradition applies more to the extent in time than to the extent in location.
 
I’m still not sure exactly what “traditions” are being discussed.

Are we talking about the Mass? Or daily life?

When it comes to daily life, traditions change because the lifestyle of people changes because of various inventions, etc.

E.g., in the “olden days,” many families went to bed early, around 8:00 p.m… It was dark, and there was no sense staying up wasting kerosene. There was nothing much to do in the dark. And it was cold, as there was no central heating–no sense wasting wood or coal building up the fire so that people could sit around and do nothing. There were no potato chips or Oreos for people to munch on in the late evening. Dinner was finished, the stove shut up, and the dishes washed and put away hours earlier.

(Sounds kind of good to me!)

But with the discovery of how to harness electricity and the invention of the light bulb, life changed drastically for Americans. People started staying up late. And once the radio became a common fixture in most homes, people had something to do! And then came the television, and many families started scheduling their evenings around a time of viewing.

All of this changed family life and scheduling, and this meant changes in various traditions. I’m guessing that many families who once prayed a Rosary before bed gave it up once they started watching George Burns and Gracie Allen on television.

And I’m guessing that a lot of families who once prayed a blessing over their family breakfast gave that up decades ago when mom started working outside the home, and kids and dad started grabbing a bowl of cold cereal for breakfast and eating while reading the paper.

I’m not saying that these changes are good (or bad). But they happen all through history, and they will continue to happen. I think that Holy Mother Church is wise to not require a list of “To Dos” outside of Mass, as inevitably, as times and situations change, people will simply not do the “list.” And that’s OK–after all, we are not a religion of practices–we are a religion of a Person, Jesus Christ.
Modern inventions did what? I was there in the 1950s. We were taught to pray as kids at home. My mother had a beautiful rosary and we observed all the traditions. The TV and the radio were totally optional. God came first. We said grace before meals.

We had a list of to do’s outside of Mass. Honor thy father and they mother. Being Catholic meant faith without works is dead. Practices and traditions meant a lot. Those who abandoned them gradually abandoned other things. That’s why I had my TV thrown out and my car radio is set to Catholic Radio only. That’s all it’s good for.

We are a religion of practices. It has always been that way.

Peace,
Ed
 
Modern inventions did what? I was there in the 1950s. We were taught to pray as kids at home. My mother had a beautiful rosary and we observed all the traditions. The TV and the radio were totally optional. God came first. We said grace before meals.

We had a list of to do’s outside of Mass. Honor thy father and they mother. Being Catholic meant faith without works is dead. Practices and traditions meant a lot. Those who abandoned them gradually abandoned other things. That’s why I had my TV thrown out and my car radio is set to Catholic Radio only. That’s all it’s good for.

We are a religion of practices. It has always been that way.

Peace,
Ed
Dear Ed,

Cordial greetings and a very good day. Bang on target - jolly well said.

Whilst it is certainly true that we must be cautious about looking back to the past with rose-tinted spectacles (cf. Ecclesiastes 7: 10), it is equally true that we should not be blindly sanguine respecting the present age, especially given the undeniable moral and cultural deterioration that has occurred since the permissive revolution of the Sixties.

It is very sad, dear brother, that whenever a man appeals to more God-fearing times, when the pervasive influence of the Christian consciousness held sway, he is invariably accused of crying up the goodness of former times, whilst choosing to close his eyes to some of its less desirable features. This is, of course, seldom the case and most reasonable men will freely admit that all ages have been imperfect in some respects. Nevertheless, it is a fact that prior to the permissive revolution and the consequent diminuition of the Christian consciousness, men generally did walk in the good way and did not transgress the boundaries of good taste and decency. Incontrovertably, there was not the deplorably bad coarsening of manners, the shameful acceptance of unnatural homosexual vice and the spurious egalitarian ideology that strives to blur the God-given distinctions between men and women - all sad features of own age. Moreover, gone now is gentlemanly behaviour, such as opening a door for a lady or offering her your seat on a crowded bus or train, because she is the ‘weaker sex’ and thus deserving of such special consideration. Times have certainly changed alright, but not, I fear, for the better. Again, film and television in the decades prior to Sixties was, for the most part, wholesome fare and even reinforced the moral virtues. Today film/television makers are ever seeking to push the envelope, so as to keep pace with the increasingly debased tastes of our times. For example, I am given to understand that the new series of our own Downtown Abbey will be ‘spiced up’ a little, but why on earth is there a need to do this?

Perhaps, dear brother, we need to covet again the undoubted goodness of former times and lament its passing much more than we are wont to do. Each day I fear for our youth because the Sixties avante garde people have discarded the good traditions that were informed by a healthy Christian consciousness. Whilst they may not have been infallible magisterial declarations they did, notwithstanding, foster a more Christian and civil society. What is so very sad is that there is a depreciation of almost any and all tradition nowadays. If something is old then it must necessarily be suspect or worthless, such is the reasoning of modern man, not excluding some Catholics (even those who identify as theologically ‘conservative’).

Look here, the old order that made both Great Britian and America a living force is scorned and held up to derision by modern man and pundits of all sorts. However, dear brother, what, I ask, have they got that is truly noble and worthy to replace it? Your politicians and radical types talk vociferously about freedom of choice and being liberated from outmoded ideas, but men will not remain free for long unless they are ready to fight and future generations will be useless at fighting unless they know something of *proper *discipline - the habit of obedience; how to give orders and how to take them. Alas, today we are witnessing rank insubordination by all classes of society, especially by the youth who think it jolly clever to challenge the wisdom of parents and old traditions that have stood the test of time. This rebellion does not, I say, bode well for the future and must be denounced in the strongest terms, nipped in the bud before it reaps a bitter harvest, if it has not already done so.

We Catholics, dear brother, must set a worthy example, especially to our youth, and be true to honour, duty, moderation and decency. Let us ignore the cheap smears of the cynics - even the Catholic ones. Who can honestly deny that we still need, perhaps more than ever, loyalty, the great noble traditions of the past and most certainly a manly Catholic faith that values and holds dear the extrinsic tradition of Holy Mother Church throughout the ages. If we look around us today what do we see? Violence, confusion, vulgarity and increasing moral and cultural deterioration. Let us not arrogantly refuse to consult the true standard of antiquity, simply because we fear that it will not sit comfortably with our compromised and relativistic standpoint. Whilst it is perfectly true that a man cannot be guided soley by antiquity, surely only a complete fool would reject long usage and the good old tried and trusted ways of past times. My plea is that we humble ourselves and not fear to enquire of a former age, for we might just learn of the true way of godliness and righteousness, which has always been the way that God has owned and blessed and in which men have always prospered (Jer. 6: 16).

God bless.

Warmest good wishes,

Portrait

Pax
 
In the same way that it is impossible to say that any given era is a so-called golden age of radiant splendor–which will only happen in Heaven–it is equally impossible to argue that we cannot say that one era is better than another.

No era is perfect, but some eras are better than others. We should be well-balanced in our approach to history: we should not glorify any time beyond its goodness, but neither should we pretend that all eras are equally good or, depending on your viewpoint, equally bad. Saying that there is a golden age and, on the other hand, saying that all times are equal in their goodness/badness are equally false beliefs.
 
Dear Ed,

Cordial greetings and a very good day. Bang on target - jolly well said.

Whilst it is certainly true that we must be cautious about looking back to the past with rose-tinted spectacles (cf. Ecclesiastes 7: 10), it is equally true that we should not be blindly sanguine respecting the present age, especially given the undeniable moral and cultural deterioration that has occurred since the permissive revolution of the Sixties.

It is very sad, dear brother, that whenever a man appeals to more God-fearing times, when the pervasive influence of the Christian consciousness held sway, he is invariably accused of crying up the goodness of former times, whilst choosing to close his eyes to some of its less desirable features. This is, of course, seldom the case and most reasonable men will freely admit that all ages have been imperfect in some respects. Nevertheless, it is a fact that prior to the permissive revolution and the consequent diminuition of the Christian consciousness, men generally did walk in the good way and did not transgress the boundaries of good taste and decency. Incontrovertably, there was not the deplorably bad coarsening of manners, the shameful acceptance of unnatural homosexual vice and the spurious egalitarian ideology that strives to blur the God-given distinctions between men and women - all sad features of own age. Moreover, gone now is gentlemanly behaviour, such as opening a door for a lady or offering her your seat on a crowded bus or train, because she is the ‘weaker sex’ and thus deserving of such special consideration. Times have certainly changed alright, but not, I fear, for the better. Again, film and television in the decades prior to Sixties was, for the most part, wholesome fare and even reinforced the moral virtues. Today film/television makers are ever seeking to push the envelope, so as to keep pace with the increasingly debased tastes of our times. For example, I am given to understand that the new series of our own Downtown Abbey will be ‘spiced up’ a little, but why on earth is there a need to do this?

Perhaps, dear brother, we need to covet again the undoubted goodness of former times and lament its passing much more than we are wont to do. Each day I fear for our youth because the Sixties avante garde people have discarded the good traditions that were informed by a healthy Christian consciousness. Whilst they may not have been infallible magisterial declarations they did, notwithstanding, foster a more Christian and civil society. What is so very sad is that there is a depreciation of almost any and all tradition nowadays. If something is old then it must necessarily be suspect or worthless, such is the reasoning of modern man, not excluding some Catholics (even those who identify as theologically ‘conservative’).

Look here, the old order that made both Great Britian and America a living force is scorned and held up to derision by modern man and pundits of all sorts. However, dear brother, what, I ask, have they got that is truly noble and worthy to replace it? Your politicians and radical types talk vociferously about freedom of choice and being liberated from outmoded ideas, but men will not remain free for long unless they are ready to fight and future generations will be useless at fighting unless they know something of *proper *discipline - the habit of obedience; how to give orders and how to take them. Alas, today we are witnessing rank insubordination by all classes of society, especially by the youth who think it jolly clever to challenge the wisdom of parents and old traditions that have stood the test of time. This rebellion does not, I say, bode well for the future and must be denounced in the strongest terms, nipped in the bud before it reaps a bitter harvest, if it has not already done so.

We Catholics, dear brother, must set a worthy example, especially to our youth, and be true to honour, duty, moderation and decency. Let us ignore the cheap smears of the cynics - even the Catholic ones. Who can honestly deny that we still need, perhaps more than ever, loyalty, the great noble traditions of the past and most certainly a manly Catholic faith that values and holds dear the extrinsic tradition of Holy Mother Church throughout the ages. If we look around us today what do we see? Violence, confusion, vulgarity and increasing moral and cultural deterioration. Let us not arrogantly refuse to consult the true standard of antiquity, simply because we fear that it will not sit comfortably with our compromised and relativistic standpoint. Whilst it is perfectly true that a man cannot be guided soley by antiquity, surely only a complete fool would reject long usage and the good old tried and trusted ways of past times. My plea is that we humble ourselves and not fear to enquire of a former age, for we might just learn of the true way of godliness and righteousness, which has always been the way that God has owned and blessed and in which men have always prospered (Jer. 6: 16).

God bless.

Warmest good wishes,

Portrait

Pax
 
Dear Portrait,

Thank you for your kind words regarding my post. Indeed, dear brother, both the United States and those living across the pond fared better in the past. A strong work ethic. A prayer life rather than dwelling on a sex life. Of course, there are tired and disingenuous appeals to only the bad of those times prior to 1968 and the great assault on our moral sensibilities. Of course, no era was without sin or its own set of problems but there are those who are quick to bury any examination of the good those previous times held. I could watch or read anything, and in the main, not be offended. But it is well-documented and undeniable so that none can say it is a colored view that many lived through a portion of that time where universal standards existed. Where a level of modesty, decency and politeness were the norm.

As I heard a religious say about his experience during the late 1960s, “They want to tear down everything and replace it with nothing.” And so, the work began at root and branch. Those who knew how to attack lied and denied and took advantage of our good natures, but we didn’t know - not all of it, not then - what was to come.

In essence, our society had to disintegrate into small tribal groups that recognized no higher authority than the media and the so-called fashion industry. We have been taught to not honor our parents or even the Church since clever writers, often quoted here or there, and posted here, have worked out new solutions and even demand the restructuring of certain social institutions.

If we do not act, even in small ways, to expose those who live for more and more evil novelty, and those who worship change, and those who claim that almost anything is permissable, whose end is the permission of anything, then we deny our God-given mission to be the salt of the earth that is grounded in actual truth, not a mountain of opinions that often mean little or nothing.

So, as God gives us the strength, we must speak the truth daily to combat the lies and deceptions being spread among the people. Your analysis is thorough, dear brother.

God bless you,

Ed
 
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