The Mystery of Goodness

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You see, I see goodness in a lot of people and I wondered if that goodness is this spark. Since I am not able to see God as always good or good in an understandable way, or that he even need to be good at all times and places I wondered if we can see a spark in things that don’t give us the warm fuzzies?
What you have stumbled upon, StrawberryJam, is a little mystery. You see goodness in a lot of people, and this goodness is like a mirror of God. You see, each person is created in the Image of God, that is, each person has a soul. The soul is a spirit and a spirit is will, intellect, and imagination. God breathes the spirit into the body, so to speak; He unites the spirit to the body, thus created a human person, at the moment of conception. The human person is an animal-spirit creature, a material-immaterial being. Now, because the human person is created in God’s Image, he reflects the goodness of God: first, by his nature and existence, for nature is good and existence is good, both are good things; and second, by his condition and behavior, which are either good or evil, depending on how he chooses to live and act. It is said that a good man can see God by looking at his soul, that is, by examining his conscience. The goodness he sees in himself is a mirror of God, a reflection of the Lord, and it is a mirror or reflection of Him because He is Goodness Itself.

God is Goodness because He is the Source and the Summit of all things. He is the Source or Beginning or Alpha because He created all things, He causes all good to be, He directs time and all things, He orders and provides everything, He draws out of evil a greater good, and He leads all things from one beginning to the next. For example, He created the Universe, He causes beauty and joy, He directs events to the greater good, He arranges things for man’s good and provides for his well-being, He permits evil to happen to draw out of it a greater good like peace out of war or a new watch out of a broken watch, and He leads man from one day to the next. He is the Summit or End or Omega because He created all things for Himself, He causes all good to be to reflect His glory, He directs all things to culmination, He orders and provides everything for man to give Him glory, He permits evil for man’s sake and His glory, He leads all things to Himself, and He is perfect in every way. For example, He created man for Himsel, He created stars to relect His glory, He directs the world to its perfection like on a journey, He orders and provides for man so man can give Him glory, He permits evil because man can choose evil and - knowing he chooses evil - uses it to glory Himself, He leads man to Himself (though not everyone chooses Goodness, some choose evil and so damn themselves), and He is infinitely good, infinitely powerful, infinitely wise, infinitely being, etc. I’m sure you’ll have some questions and objections, and that’s okay StrawberryJam.

Now no one sees a reflection in a mirror other than his own, so the reflection of God is the soul means the goodness of the person is not to be credited to the man but to God, who is the Source of all goodness as Goodness Itself. Man only cooperates with God, by accepting His graces, whereby he is able to do good. Man can choose to not cooperate with God, though, by not accepting His graces, whereby he chooses to do evil. I’m not sure how grace works, exactly, but I’m sure some Apologetists could help clear that up.

I call goodness a mystery because no one really knows what it is. You can define it and its attributes and qualities, but you can never truly know what its essence is.
 
Wow, 626 words to say absolutely nothing. You Sir are truly gifted.👍
 
Did you read what he posted and did it make as little sense to you as it did to me? Just wondering. Most of it seemed like nonsensical ramblings.
I am not the OP so I cannot say the exact reason for its posting but I believe he posted it to stimulate conversation on what he has dubbed the “mystery of Goodness”.

What are your thoughts on it?

God bless you
 
I am not the OP so I cannot say the exact reason for its posting but I believe he posted it to stimulate conversation on what he has dubbed the “mystery of Goodness”.

What are your thoughts on it?

God bless you
Like I said, nonsensical ramblings. This part “God is the soul means the goodness of the person is not to be credited to the man but to God” made me mad though. Statements like that do more to lessen the accomplishment of man that to edify god.
 
Statements like that do more to lessen the accomplishment of man that to edify god.
This I think may have been the point of his thread. Man’s goodness; who’s credit is it? God’s? or ours?

Perhaps the OP will rejoin his thread.

By the way welcome to the forums.

God bless you
 
This I think may have been the point of his thread. Man’s goodness; who’s credit is it? God’s? or ours?

Perhaps the OP will rejoin his thread.

By the way welcome to the forums.

God bless you
Thank you. Although, I don’t imagine I’ll be here very long. Sadly, most christians don’t like atheists.
 
Thank you. Although, I don’t imagine I’ll be here very long. Sadly, most christians don’t like atheists.
“But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you”

We ❤️ you, especially you! So, please, feel free to stay as long as you would like!! 😉
 
Thank you. Although, I don’t imagine I’ll be here very long. Sadly, most christians don’t like atheists.
I do not dislike Atheists.

However, if you believe most Christians do perhaps that is all the more reason to stay around here? To change our perception of Atheists that has led us to dislike them.

God bless you
 
What? I was polite, I called him Sir. I was complimentary, I said he was gifted. I just didn’t agree with what he said. Two out of three ain’t bad.
You can’t even be honest about your mockery.
 
🙂

I just found this thread now.

I need to really look at it closer and think more about it. I do thank you for taking so much time and effort to give me an explaination about this. It is a lot to think about.

By the way, if my opinion matters at all I don’t find most posters here to be hostile to me simply because I am not christian. Most are very pleasant to converse with. I find myself able to express my objections and concerns without incident. Above all, as a guest here at a christian site I realize that my behavior must reflect that.

Eucharisted, I appreciate your thread. :hug1:
 
You can’t even be honest about your mockery.
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I was going for #2, my apologies if you’ve missed that.
 
I was going for #2, my apologies if you’ve missed that.
I didn’t miss it, who could? But you were trying to be funny at someone else’s expense - which isn’t funny. But my brother knows the score. And here’s a proverb for you:

"Like a madman shooting firebrands or deadly arrows is a man who deceives his neighbor and says, “I was only joking!” (Proverbs 26:18-19)
 
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