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That, and the Greek Septuagint maybe. He grew up in Nazareth, remember! Apparently it was spread among all Jews, not only outside the Land of Israel.
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Lapell
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Raised or risen depicts the fact that he was dead, but then he wasn’t dead any more. In this respect, it makes no difference!
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Ben_Masada
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Ben_Masada
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**No, it does not. To raise someone from a certain place does not mean he is dead. **
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Bill_Pick
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Planten, How can the Mormon and JW be off-shoots (christians) who have many more off-shoots now such as mormons and JW’s,They are not Christian. and Yes you are a guest so please get it right, yesterday you had a post saying that Cathloic are not Christians
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allhers
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Lapell;5477908:
You were already given the answer for this many posts ago and you rejected it. So now you are left to ponder that on your own. (Not always the brightest thing to do.)
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planten
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**Bill, thanks for serving me. I do not remember having said that Catholics are not christians. I believe that Catholics and Protestants are all christians. I may have said that they are not good christians. Anyhow, it would make the matter easy if you just give my post number. I shall look it up.
I believe you are a Catholic. I am a non-Catholic.**
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Bill_Pick
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Plantern From your post I can see it is very hard for you to understand thing, and most of your answer are just your opinion so I put no faith in any of your answers.
Yes but YOU SAID that the JW and Mormons are christians and they are not,do you see why I put no faith in any thing you say
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abucs
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As i alluded to, if the shroud is 2000 years old, it’s corroboration with John’s gospel proves John’s gospel is based at least in part, from eye witness testimony. That much is obvious.
If the shroud is 2000 years old, its corroboration with John’s gospel is as close as any one could reasonably ask for, to show that the shroud belongs to Jesus.
If the shroud is 2000 years old and medical experts today say that the man in the shroud is most certainly dead, then YOUR VERY INDIVIDUAL IDEA WITH NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER is proved wrong beyond all reasonable doubt.
I’m not saying the shroud is 2000 years old, but if it is, your story falls down and you will have to invent another one. The shroud most certainly matters. Ponder !
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Quote:
Originally Posted by planten
Bill, thanks for serving me. I do not remember having said that Catholics are not christians. I believe that Catholics and Protestants are all christians. I may have said that they are not good christians. Anyhow, it would make the matter easy if you just give my post number. I shall look it up.
I believe you are a Catholic. I am a non-Catholic.
Plantern From your post I can see it is very hard for you to understand thing, and most of your answer are just your opinion so I put no faith in any of your answers.
Yes but YOU SAID that the JW and Mormons are christians and they are not,do you see why I put no faith in any thing you say
**Bill, You have not replied to my question. Where did I say that Catholics are not christians?
Of course I read everything and listen to all and then I have to form an opinion of my own. Do you want to stop me from forming an opinion? That is the way it is with everybody.
Then after forming an opinion, it is allowed to me to present it to others. If my opinion is far off the mark then you can complain. i read and understand Bible and Quran without prejudice.**
Originally Posted by planten
Bill, thanks for serving me. I do not remember having said that Catholics are not christians. I believe that Catholics and Protestants are all christians. I may have said that they are not good christians. Anyhow, it would make the matter easy if you just give my post number. I shall look it up.
I believe you are a Catholic. I am a non-Catholic.
Plantern From your post I can see it is very hard for you to understand thing, and most of your answer are just your opinion so I put no faith in any of your answers.
Yes but YOU SAID that the JW and Mormons are christians and they are not,do you see why I put no faith in any thing you say
**Bill, You have not replied to my question. Where did I say that Catholics are not christians?
Of course I read everything and listen to all and then I have to form an opinion of my own. Do you want to stop me from forming an opinion? That is the way it is with everybody.
Then after forming an opinion, it is allowed to me to present it to others. If my opinion is far off the mark then you can complain. i read and understand Bible and Quran without prejudice.**
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adrift
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This is what you want to see but it is not true. It is a lie. The one using this is a translator of the Gospel writers not the writers themselves. I have pointed out numerous times that other translators in other languages have a different translation. In the Polish translation, it reads He is risen. The blunder is continually repeating a lie.
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Bill_Pick
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Planta You say so much tjat is not true about the Cathloic Church its very hard to keep up with You and you say O thats just me opinion
You said Mormons and JW are a off shoot of the Cathloic Church this is not true the Mormon and the JW are a CULT.Most of all you say is not some thing that a Cathloic or a non-cathloic believe,but you must remember this is a CHRISTIAN board==so iys hard to believe any thing a muslam will say ( Jesus Christ die on a croos and did noy live unti the age of 123 years old that all hog wash, Have a good day and may Our Lord bless you and your.
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**Bill Pick, more hogwash from you:
Bill, the mormons and the JW’s may be heretics. But they are offshoots. Tell me they are off-shoots of Hindus or Jews or Muslims? What do you say? It is clear that they split up from Christians.
We all know those are your beliefs that jesus died on the cross and he was cursed person because he died on the cross. And Jesus went to hell for three days. But while Jesus was on the cross, he promised the good thief that both will be in paradise the next day.
Jesus was to go to paradise. Why he went to hell? You people have funny ideas and you want the world to believe all that.
We non-Catholics do not need any of that. We do not believe that Jesus died on the cross and became cursed. We do not believe that jesus ever went to hell even for a moment. A cursed person is far away from the Mercy of God.
According to you Bill Pick, your god (Jesus) was a cursed person. Your God (Jesus) was far away from the Mercy of God and God was displeased with Jesus because Jesus was cursed.
Remember that curse is not that of the men. Real curse is from God. Keep discussing gently.
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Bill, the mormons and the JW’s may be heretics. But they are offshoots. Tell me they are off-shoots of Hindus or Jews or Muslims? What do you say? It is clear that they split up from Christians.
We all know those are your beliefs that jesus died on the cross and he was cursed person because he died on the cross. And Jesus went to hell for three days. But while Jesus was on the cross, he promised the good thief that both will be in paradise the next day.
Jesus was to go to paradise. Why he went to hell? You people have funny ideas and you want the world to believe all that.
We non-Catholics do not need any of that. We do not believe that Jesus died on the cross and became cursed. We do not believe that jesus ever went to hell even for a moment. A cursed person is far away from the Mercy of God.
According to you Bill Pick, your god (Jesus) was a cursed person. Your God (Jesus) was far away from the Mercy of God and God was displeased with Jesus because Jesus was cursed.
Remember that curse is not that of the men. Real curse is from God. Keep discussing gently.
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Bill_Pick
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Planta, I,ll tell you just one time and then I will not agree with ignorance, My Lord was put on a croos,die and returne in three days and is now in heaven with His Father, and this is a fact not my opinion. get it in you head this is Christians board and this is not for debate,this is what all Christinas believe,not the nonsense you are dreaming about and it has been for almost 2000 years,please have respect for the Christians on this board…My Lord was in heaven at the age of 33 and not Indina or where ever your opinion said He is.
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Ben_Masada
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**To me, Catholics were the first Christians. Then, later they subdivided into Orthodox and Roman Catholics. However, we can’t say this in front of the Armenians.
They claim that they were the first Christians. Then, Catholics were organized. Can anyone clear this out if it’s not correct?
Today, anyone who confesses Jesus as Christ, is a Christian to me.**
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Ben Masada;5477974:
It means you don’t know. And you don’t know because there was no third night or part of it. It also means one more contradiction in the NT because of Matthew 12:40.You were already given the answer for this many posts ago and you rejected it. So now you are left to ponder that on your own. (Not always the brightest thing to do.)
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