The mystery of the Trinity

[MartinJordan]

I never liked the water analogy especially since it is a “created” item. The Trinity however is “uncreated”. Always been there so…using created matter using our finite minds to figure this out ultimately fails or er gets “watered down”

Please carry on with the regular programming.

MJ

 

[SteveVH]

Does that mean God is a man

God became man in the person of Jesus Christ, but never ceased to be God while being fully human.

God is a voice in the clouds and God is a dove, and God is tongues of flame? Does it mean God is bread and wine?

We are speaking in philosphical terms which need to be defined in order to be understood.
When we speak of “form” or “being” imagine a chair. A chair has certain charactaristics that make it a chair and nothing else. You can turn the chair upside down or place it on its side, or stack things on it like a table, but its still a chair. A chair’s primary purpose is to provide a place to sit. One can sit on a table or on a rock or on the ground, but they are not chairs. The form of the chair is its “being” so to speak. The two cannot be separated. Hope that helps a little.

Because from what I understand, God takes all of those forms, but is not contained in any of them, apart, perhaps from His form as a Man.

Christ was true God and true man so it would be correct to say that God had the form of a man because he did. He also had the divine form of God which is invisible. But God did not just “appear” as a man, he was really a man, as opposed to a cloud or a dove or a burning flame. And he was not contained by his human body. He walked on water and commanded the wind and the sea. He spoke and a fig tree withered before him. He made the blind see, the deaf hear and the lame walk. And… he rose from the dead.