The new age movement is satanic at its core

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“One God and Father of all, who is above all and through all and in all…” Ephesians 4:6 NRSV
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Yoga was created to connect with the Hindu gods (aka demons). The poses are designed to summon different “gods” so each pose is an invocation to a Hindu god.
This is a yoga pose.

http://www.a2zyoga.com/img/poses/tadasana.jpg

By your definition, I summon a hindu god every time I stretch my back. So far, the only thing I’ve ever conjured is the need for a coffee break.

And I don’t even do yoga. 🤷
Avoid yoga altogether. If you enjoy stretching, just get a book on stretching or pilates.
Different stretches from different disciplines have different benefits to the body.
 
This is a yoga pose.

http://www.a2zyoga.com/img/poses/tadasana.jpg

By your definition, I summon a hindu god every time I stretch my back. So far, the only thing I’ve ever conjured is the need for a coffee break.

And I don’t even do yoga. 🤷

Different stretches from different disciplines have different benefits to the body.
This is a swimming pose too when about to dive. And about as far as I would get with it. I have done stretches when exercising without probably realising they were converging with some Yoga stretch or other.

I have to say that if one were to forget the belief behind the stretches and incorporate the stretches into Christian prayer, this stretch at least, is rather beautiful!

The whole body seems to be aligned in the shape our hands make when we pray to God. So I might trying praying the Our Father or Hail Mary or at least relaxing but offering it up to God and see if it helps! After all, the Holy Trinity is the God of the Universe and if we offer up all to Him we tread on all the other cults, we tread on Satan, and help to unify all things to Jesus. (Our Lady treads on superstition as in Guadeloupe) I do love that pose! But it is also good to stretch and relax before humbly lowering one’s head to God in prayer also. Thanks for posting!

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I always get a little irritated when this comes up and people reply with, if you want to stretch, don’t do yoga, just stretch. Yoga isn’t stretching. It’s exercise. If you think it isn’t, then take a class 😉 No one in my classes is praying to Hindu gods, we are trying to work out and build our core strength and use our flexibility. There is absolutely nothing wrong with becoming aware of our bodies. Some people like cross fit type exercise where you fling yourself crazy around and hope you don’t hurt yourself while you do a hundred dead lifts. Others of us like to become strong by a routine of moves using all our core strength, all our arm and leg muscles or even being able to lift our bodies off the ground onto our hands while perched on our elbows- slowly, balanced, and after much, much training 😃 The only prayer I’m saying is God, help me hold it all together!

Now as far as New Age in general, yes I would agree with the OP- I get very concerned with things that claim to have magical powers. But there is a line for me between natural healing (such as with essential oils) versus bogus healing (rocks and crystals). God created plants with certain properties and we can learn to use them, nothing wrong with that imo.
 
I always get a little irritated when this comes up and people reply with, if you want to stretch, don’t do yoga, just stretch. Yoga isn’t stretching. It’s exercise. If you think it isn’t, then take a class 😉 No one in my classes is praying to Hindu gods, we are trying to work out and build our core strength and use our flexibility. There is absolutely nothing wrong with becoming aware of our bodies. Some people like cross fit type exercise where you fling yourself crazy around and hope you don’t hurt yourself while you do a hundred dead lifts. Others of us like to become strong by a routine of moves using all our core strength, all our arm and leg muscles or even being able to lift our bodies off the ground onto our hands while perched on our elbows- slowly, balanced, and after much, much training 😃 The only prayer I’m saying is God, help me hold it all together!
Yes, But he word ‘Yoga’ can be misconstrued! Some places advertise Christian Yoga for meditation, not just exercise. Which is why we were saying to separate the exercise or meditative positions from the non-Christian belief system.
Now as far as New Age in general, yes I would agree with the OP- I get very concerned with things that claim to have magical powers. But there is a line for me between natural healing (such as with essential oils) versus bogus healing (rocks and crystals). God created plants with certain properties and we can learn to use them, nothing wrong with that imo.
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I always get a little irritated when this comes up and people reply with, if you want to stretch, don’t do yoga, just stretch. Yoga isn’t stretching. It’s exercise. If you think it isn’t, then take a class 😉 No one in my classes is praying to Hindu gods, we are trying to work out and build our core strength and use our flexibility. There is absolutely nothing wrong with becoming aware of our bodies. Some people like cross fit type exercise where you fling yourself crazy around and hope you don’t hurt yourself while you do a hundred dead lifts. Others of us like to become strong by a routine of moves using all our core strength, all our arm and leg muscles or even being able to lift our bodies off the ground onto our hands while perched on our elbows- slowly, balanced, and after much, much training 😃 The only prayer I’m saying is God, help me hold it all together!

Now as far as New Age in general, yes I would agree with the OP- I get very concerned with things that claim to have magical powers. But there is a line for me between natural healing (such as with essential oils) versus bogus healing (rocks and crystals). God created plants with certain properties and we can learn to use them, nothing wrong with that imo.
I am leaning toward the rocks and crystals to have healing properties too. (To answer friardchips question earlier). Not magical healing powers like it seems to be every one on this threads understanding of why people use rocks and crystals, but healing as in a similar way herbs, minerals, plants, and oils can. I don’t believe God would have but them here without a purpose. Maybe there are healing properties in rocks and crystals that heal the psychic, mental, and spiritual natures of us all. Kind of like the way a beautiful sunset will help sooth a troubled and cluttered mind and assists the troubled soul to find peace. Maybe some rocks and crystals help us sooth and heal in some way or another too. Maybe kind of how aroma therapy works through the sense of smell rocks and crystals work through the senses of touch and sight?
Don’t know for sure but I remember hearing about St. Hildegard, I hope I spelled her name correctly, and how she used rocks and minerals to help heal ailments in her day and age. Not sure how accurate that is but regardless, I do still believe God has them here for a reason and purpose just like He has everything else here for a reason and purpose.
 
I am leaning toward the rocks and crystals to have healing properties too. (To answer friardchips question earlier). Not magical healing powers like it seems to be every one on this threads understanding of why people use rocks and crystals, but healing as in a similar way herbs, minerals, plants, and oils can. I don’t believe God would have but them here without a purpose. Maybe there are healing properties in rocks and crystals that heal the psychic, mental, and spiritual natures of us all. Kind of like the way a beautiful sunset will help sooth a troubled and cluttered mind and assists the troubled soul to find peace. Maybe some rocks and crystals help us sooth and heal in some way or another too. Maybe kind of how aroma therapy works through the sense of smell rocks and crystals work through the senses of touch and sight?
Don’t know for sure but I remember hearing about St. Hildegard, I hope I spelled her name correctly, and how she used rocks and minerals to help heal ailments in her day and age. Not sure how accurate that is but regardless, I do still believe God has them here for a reason and purpose just like He has everything else here for a reason and purpose.
When I once drove to look out at the sea and sun once, I was in a foul mood, and having gone to this place to calm down I found this view did nothing for me. I was about to go and ranted angrily to God saying: “I thought this stuff was meant to help us”. After this prayer I relaxed. Then I enjoyed the view. Everything holds less meaning unless offered up. In terms of healing the ‘psychic, mental, and spiritual natures…’, God does this, not the rocks. Maybe they have properties in them that are useful but no drug or medicine heals the soul. They may heal physical ailments but only that. Beautiful things can only help the soul with God in heart and mind, not ‘apart’ from. Is this what you mean overall in your post?
 
When I once drove to look out at the sea and sun once, I was in a foul mood, and having gone to this place to calm down I found this view did nothing for me. I was about to go and ranted angrily to God saying: “I thought this stuff was meant to help us”. After this prayer I relaxed. Then I enjoyed the view. Everything holds less meaning unless offered up. In terms of healing the ‘psychic, mental, and spiritual natures…’, God does this, not the rocks. Maybe they have properties in them that are useful but no drug or medicine heals the soul. They may heal physical ailments but only that. Beautiful things can only help the soul with God in heart and mind, not ‘apart’ from. Is this what you mean overall in your post?
Yes, I believe so, in as much as I am understanding you. What I believe we may see things a little differently is that I see God as healing us with the rocks and crystals but they only exist because of Him and His love for us. It seems to me that you see it as God healing us directly and that the rocks and crystals have no purpose. Or that there only purpose is for satanic purposes.

As for the healing of the soul? The way I believe I see or kind of understand it helping the soul is the more we take care of our bodies the better our souls are able to fight its battles and finds healing from God instead of being distracted by so many physical or psychological ailments. Much like a Lon walk, eating and sleeping do. Honestly I am kind of “shooting in the dark here” trying to understand some things myself so please don’t be so quick to shoot down or derail me if I am not see or understanding something as well as you.
 
If there is no scientific proof that rocks and crystals can heal, isnt doing it suicidal and sinful?
 
Yes, I believe so, in as much as I am understanding you. What I believe we may see things a little differently is that I see God as healing us with the rocks and crystals but they only exist because of Him and His love for us. It seems to me that you see it as God healing us directly and that the rocks and crystals have no purpose. Or that there only purpose is for satanic purposes.
It depends how you think crystals heal. I don’t know if they help physical ailments as medicine helps us - which is to heal physically; as with medicine, which heals physical ailments, we know that God gave us those natural things that we might use them as remedies but not to attribute a supernatural power as coming from those things themselves. (I am not saying you think this but trying to understand your position). The power is not in the medicine it just contains healthy ingredients.
As for the healing of the soul? The way I believe I see or kind of understand it helping the soul is the more we take care of our bodies the better our souls are able to fight its battles and finds healing from God instead of being distracted by so many physical or psychological ailments. Much like a Lon walk, eating and sleeping do. Honestly I am kind of “shooting in the dark here” trying to understand some things myself so please don’t be so quick to shoot down or derail me if I am not see or understanding something as well as you.
The things of the world have natural healing properties for our bodies but not anything which can heal the soul but can help us relax because when we feel better physically then sometimes we feel better all around - but this is rather ‘consequence’ of having taking a remedy for physical ailments as opposed to (supernatural) intervention from the object itself. Maybe we are saying the same thing?..
  • all things come from God and if understood as coming from Him and are healthy then they are okay, in moderation, if used for good reasons?
  • objects hold no (supernatural) power in themselves but rather contain natural ingredients that can help us physically?
  • things we do, like taking medicine or going for a walk, or nice things, can help our soul in that they help us feel better? They are good for us.
I would say that they don’t necessarily heal the soul still but can help the soul - to relax or feel better. So maybe this is where we disagree?

I also have no clue whether crystal or rocks have ingredients in them that can help physical ailments and as a consequence help the soul (you might say ‘heal’?).
 
The New Age Movement is Satanic. No question. You can go to certain places and it’s not hard to find books that claim to contain “real” spells, or how to use crystals to heal or get what you want, and books - while not using the words “anti-Christian” - that are written by people who claim to have some uncommon knowledge that is true, or connected to various things like our “higher selves,” our “spirit guides” and similar. In other words: “Look at my version of reality - it’s true. It can do things for you, it can affect other people, and, without being explicit, ‘it’s better than Christianity.’” Crystals, stones, tarot, astrology… And my favorite: “Your interpretation of God (especially the Christian God) is all wrong.” “You are god” or “We are god” or “We are becoming a global god.” In the end, there is the goal - worshiping Satan, who’s also not who you think he is. Which is a lie.

Dark Secrets of the New Age by Texe Marrs is a good book about it.

As far as healing. In the past, people used certain minerals, parts of plants and such for healing purposes. Modern medicine has either found modern substitutes, or still uses at least a few old sources. For example, aspirin was derived from a plant.

Peace,
Ed
 
So is it ok to use the crystals for their healing powers knowing it comes from God?

Edited to ask; we are, when speaking about the “powers” of crystals, we are referring to the “properties” of them. Correct?
As long as you are giving God the credit and NOT the actual crystals, then, Yes, it would be OK.

The crystals are like catholic statues, we dont actually worship the object, its what the object represents. HUGE difference here.
 
As long as you are giving God the credit and NOT the actual crystals, then, Yes, it would be OK.

The crystals are like catholic statues, we dont actually worship the object, its what the object represents. HUGE difference here.
So, how do the crystals work?

Best,
Ed
 
It depends how you think crystals heal. I don’t know if they help physical ailments as medicine helps us - which is to heal physically; as with medicine, which heals physical ailments, we know that God gave us those natural things that we might use them as remedies but not to attribute a supernatural power as coming from those things themselves. (I am not saying you think this but trying to understand your position). The power is not in the medicine it just contains healthy ingredients.

The things of the world have natural healing properties for our bodies but not anything which can heal the soul but can help us relax because when we feel better physically then sometimes we feel better all around - but this is rather ‘consequence’ of having taking a remedy for physical ailments as opposed to (supernatural) intervention from the object itself. Maybe we are saying the same thing?..
  • all things come from God and if understood as coming from Him and are healthy then they are okay, in moderation, if used for good reasons?
  • objects hold no (supernatural) power in themselves but rather contain natural ingredients that can help us physically?
  • things we do, like taking medicine or going for a walk, or nice things, can help our soul in that they help us feel better? They are good for us.
I would say that they don’t necessarily heal the soul still but can help the soul - to relax or feel better. So maybe this is where we disagree?
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I also have no clue whether crystal or rocks have ingredients in them that can help physical ailments and as a consequence help the soul (you might say ‘heal’?).**
I don’t believe this is quite what I am saying. What I believe I am trying to say is God may use the healing elements found in nature to help heal us physically and as a consequence helps or assists the soul in it’s healing process and that in and of it’s self is the healing element that the rock or crystal may have on a soul. I believe this is also what you are saying with subtle implications of making it seem like this is not what I am trying to say. Not sure how to explain it any better. Maybe we are just getting hung up on the language, or at least I may be, we are using. For all I know we could be be saying the same thing but then again maybe not. If I think of a better or more clear and concise way of explaining what we might differ on I’ll let you know.
 
The New Age Movement is Satanic. No question. You can go to certain places and it’s not hard to find books that claim to contain “real” spells, or how to use crystals to heal or get what you want, and books - while not using the words “anti-Christian” - that are written by people who claim to have some uncommon knowledge that is true, or connected to various things like our “higher selves,” our “spirit guides” and similar. In other words: “Look at my version of reality - it’s true. It can do things for you, it can affect other people, and, without being explicit, ‘it’s better than Christianity.’” Crystals, stones, tarot, astrology… And my favorite: “Your interpretation of God (especially the Christian God) is all wrong.” “You are god” or “We are god” or “We are becoming a global god.” In the end, there is the goal - worshiping Satan, who’s also not who you think he is. Which is a lie.

Dark Secrets of the New Age by Texe Marrs is a good book about it.

As far as healing. In the past, people used certain minerals, parts of plants and such for healing purposes. Modern medicine has either found modern substitutes, or still uses at least a few old sources. For example, aspirin was derived from a plant.

Peace,
Ed
I believe a better way of saying this might be that the healing elements found in the natural resources of God’s Creation can be exploited and used for satanic reasons like greed in what ever form that greed manifests it’s self in.
 
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I don’t believe this is quite what I am saying. What I believe I am trying to say is God may use the healing elements found in nature to help heal us physically and as a consequence helps or assists the soul in it’s healing process and that in and of it’s self is the healing element that the rock or crystal may have on a soul. I believe this is also what you are saying with subtle implications of making it seem like this is not what I am trying to say. Not sure how to explain it any better. Maybe we are just getting hung up on the language, or at least I may be, we are using. For all I know we could be be saying the same thing but then again maybe not. If I think of a better or more clear and concise way of explaining what we might differ on I’ll let you know.

The difference is that you think that God could use crystals to heal the ‘soul’.

I think that only GOD heals the soul through the Sacraments and prayer and life offered up.

Everything else medicinal heals our physical selves and this can have the consequence of helping to make us feel a bit better.

This is the clear difference, I think. God bless!
 
I always get a little irritated when this comes up and people reply with, if you want to stretch, don’t do yoga, just stretch. Yoga isn’t stretching. It’s exercise. If you think it isn’t, then take a class 😉 No one in my classes is praying to Hindu gods, we are trying to work out and build our core strength and use our flexibility. There is absolutely nothing wrong with becoming aware of our bodies. Some people like cross fit type exercise where you fling yourself crazy around and hope you don’t hurt yourself while you do a hundred dead lifts. Others of us like to become strong by a routine of moves using all our core strength, all our arm and leg muscles or even being able to lift our bodies off the ground onto our hands while perched on our elbows- slowly, balanced, and after much, much training 😃 The only prayer I’m saying is God, help me hold it all together!

Now as far as New Age in general, yes I would agree with the OP- I get very concerned with things that claim to have magical powers. But there is a line for me between natural healing (such as with essential oils) versus bogus healing (rocks and crystals). God created plants with certain properties and we can learn to use them, nothing wrong with that imo.
I agree! But, you kjow, if its simple excercise you shouldnt call it “yoga” cuz its not…Yoga itself is simply occult. If you do yoga poses for excercise, its not really yoga anymore imo.
 
As long as you are giving God the credit and NOT the actual crystals, then, Yes, it would be OK.

The crystals are like catholic statues, we dont actually worship the object, its what the object represents. HUGE difference here.
No, I say no. I mean i guess then the sin is certainly not as bad…but crystals…idk. I say stay clear of it…UNLESS crystals could scientifically help us. if it is supernatural, i think stay clear. but if it is actual science, then yes, id agree.
 
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