The new religion

[jerry_joseph]

That does not make sense. If you are claiming something does exist, you have the burden of proof, not the opposite way around.

OK. It means that you cannot prove that God does not exists…

Perfections of creations are the proof for God… Celestial bodies such as sun, moon, earth, planets, stars , their orderly orbits, Definitely it requires wisdom of a supernatural person…

 

[jerry_joseph]

Atheism is not a religion. In some religions, you can be an atheist, in others, it is impossible. Atheism is simply the lack of belief in a god or gods. Atheism does not have scripture like you say, nor do atheists have any sort of creed. Atheism is loose, there is no order like the Catholic Church has.

It is also a belief … A belief in non existence of God… As they are not believing in any God, for what they require a church or order?..

 

[Jessup]

I’m not atheist by any means. however. these typical statements in the " Creed " I referred to
have always been universal amongst all Aithest I’ve ever know.
If its not a religion for say, based on the belief of a deity, then it could be based on the belief of one’s own thought, or something of an unorganized cult. Most of the media put out in the Atheism culture is very consistent in its teachings. But non the less I think there is a set of universal rules that people have to follow to be an Atheist based on repetitive arguments most often pushed foreth from the homosexual community or drug addict community against Christianity.
With that being said, I would say that science has probably been responsible for more deaths then any thing else. From the A-bomb to the advancement in ancient metallurgy that gave those using Iron superior weapons over those in the bronze age still.

Cheers!

 

[Espero]

OK. It means that you cannot prove that God does not exists…

Perfections of creations are the proof for God… Celestial bodies such as sun, moon, earth, planets, stars , their orderly orbits, Definitely it requires wisdom of a supernatural person…

You are making an assumption by this, thus it is your belief. You are claiming such a person exists, you have the burden of proof. It makes no sense why someone would try to disprove the boogie man for example, one must provide proof he exists (I am not equating a god with such, but the example still stands)

Creations are not proof of a God. There have already been many debates done on the topic, I will let you look them up.

 

[Espero]

It is also a belief … A belief in non existence of God… As they are not believing in any God, for what they require a church or order?..

Atheism is a lack of belief. It is like saying since you do not believe in the monsters under your bed, you still have the belief they do not exist. See? It makes no sense logically

 

[Espero]

I’m not atheist by any means. however. these typical statements in the " Creed " I referred to have always been universal amongst all Aithest I’ve ever know.

Atheism itself is broad, even if the majority are skeptics, there are atheists that contradict any creed being possible.

If its not a religion for say, based on the belief of a deity, then it could be based on the belief of one’s own thought, or something of an unorganized cult.

There is arguably no such thing as a unorganized cult. Just because you have your own thoughts, doesn’t mean its a religion. If that were true, everyone would have their own religion and there would be no such thing as an organized religion

Most of the media put out in the Atheism culture is very consistent in its teachings. But non the less I think there is a set of universal rules that people have to follow to be an Atheist based on repetitive arguments most often pushed foreth from the homosexual community or drug addict community against Christianity.

Again, atheism is not connected. It only shares a lack of belief in a diety. Also it is slightly offensive to say that atheists are from the drug addict community, all my druggy friends were Christian. That doesn’t mean that I can say most repetitive arguments done by Christians are from the druggie community.

With that being said, I would say that science has probably been responsibe for more deaths then any thing else. From the A-bomb to the advancement in ancient metallurgy that gave those using Iron superior weapons over those in the bronze age still.

And many of these deaths could be claimed by religion. Just because science allows us to make terrible things, doesn’t mean you can dismiss its wonders. If you hate science, why are you using your computer? Why does the pope ride in a vehicle? Why do we have so many cures for the diseases? I believe in a God personally, but I think we should use the knowledge he gave us, science.

 

[King_Lazy]

Again, atheism is not connected. It only shares a lack of belief in a diety.

Oh, but there is a particular nameless brand of atheism that is popular, and while difficult to define, it is certainly surprising in its uniformity, and perhaps distinctiveness from brands of atheism popular in the past.

I believe in a God personally, but I think we should use the knowledge he gave us, science.

I agree with you. Science is merely the discovery of material truth. Religion (depends which one ) can be spiritual truth. Both kinds of truth point towards the source of truth: God.

 

[Jessup]

Well there are some Atheist groups and clubs, I mean that’s pretty close to fellowship.
And with enough popular media to reinforce there beliefs, and spread the word.
I personally consider it another religion of some sort, by the way its been popularized now as a fad

Cheers! .

 

[Espero]

Oh, but there is a particular nameless brand of atheism that is popular, and while difficult to define, it is certainly surprising in its uniformity, and perhaps distinctiveness from brands of atheism popular in the past.

I disagree once again. There are skeptic atheists, European-pagan atheists, Buddhist atheists, Hindu atheists, etc. The list is too long. The only thing they share is the lack of belief in a God-like figure. These groups within themselves, yes, do show a lot of similarity, but only because of their narrowed down groups. Atheism includes all of these groups, which is why again I say, atheism is too broad.

 

[Espero]

Well there are some Atheist groups and clubs, I mean that’s pretty close to fellowship.

Yes, there are atheist groups that show some conformity, as mentioned above. Some spiritual or skeptic groups share a number of similarities, but it still does not make ATHEISM itself a religion. Atheism is too broad. You could easily count a Atheistic Hindu as religious, but classifying a skeptic atheist as religious is just incorrect!

And with enough popular media to reinforce there beliefs, and spread the word.

Media promotes atheism as much as any other group. I have not seen atheism at all promoted-outright like religions are. The only way it is promoted is when major atheistic speakers come on the show.

I personally consider it another religion of some sort, by the way its been popularized now as a fad

I do not consider a group becoming popular as a religion. If that is the matter, than homosexuals opening up to others who they really are could be classified as a religion

 

[jerry_joseph]

You are making an assumption by this, thus it is your belief. You are claiming such a person exists, you have the burden of proof. It makes no sense why someone would try to disprove the boogie man for example, one must provide proof he exists (I am not equating a god with such, but the example still stands)

Creations are not proof of a God. There have already been many debates done on the topic, I will let you look them up.

Perfections of creations are proof for the existence of God…Look at each living things in this world , all are perfect… nothing is imperfect…

Science has not yet proved that God exists of not… Atheist’s scientists in 20th century tried a lot to prove that God does not exist. But apart from their scientific thesis and arguments, they failed to prove that God does not exists…

 

[StrawberryJam]

Perfections of creations are proof for the existence of God…Look at each living things in this world , all are perfect… nothing is imperfect…

Science has not yet proved that God exists of not… Atheist’s scientists in 20th century tried a lot to prove that God does not exist. But apart from their scientific thesis and arguments, they failed to prove that God does not exists…

They also failed to prove that sparkle rainbow faires make rainbows. Those schmucks.

 

[StrawberryJam]

I can provide lots more if you like,

Your friend
Sufjon

None of your citations answer anything. None of them.

Stack more on and we still will not see a thing that is fact related. Faith related, sure.

 

[Espero]

Perfections of creations are proof for the existence of God…Look at each living things in this world , all are perfect… nothing is imperfect…

This world is far from perfect. With so much suffering in the world, climate change, discrimination, and many other things, it calls for people to change this world. As is most of the solar system far from perfect. Really, the universe is pretty chaotic. But this does not go against Christian teachings at all, since you do believe sin is in the world.

Science has not yet proved that God exists of not… Atheist’s scientists in 20th century tried a lot to prove that God does not exist. But apart from their scientific thesis and arguments, they failed to prove that God does not exists…

Atheists are not trying to prove that God does not exist, simply asking for evidence from theists who claim it with such enthusiasm.

I hope this clarifies things a little bit

 

[Kathryn_Ann]

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If you scroll down about midway in the link below, you will see listed

The Gentle Mastery of Christ (as found in the Gospel of Matthew)
“For my yoke is easy and my burden is light. …for I am meek and humble of heart…”**

usccb.org/bible/matthew/11/

**I pray that all will come to the understanding of our One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church. Our loving Christ left us with an invitation to be His Bride, through the Church.
All are welcome to inquire. **

 

[jerry_joseph]

This world is far from perfect. With so much suffering in the world, climate change, discrimination, and many other things, it calls for people to change this world. As is most of the solar system far from perfect. Really, the universe is pretty chaotic. But this does not go against Christian teachings at all, since you do believe sin is in the world.

Path of rotation and revolution of planets, its shapes, design , everything shows the hands of a great supernatural person… God… Look inside your body itself , Different organs performing different functions , All are designed by a great architect…

Not only Sin , remedy for Sin is also in this world.

 

[jerry_joseph]

Atheists are not trying to prove that God does not exist, simply asking for evidence from theists who claim it with such enthusiasm.

I hope this clarifies things a little bit

You cannot see electricity with your human eyes, but you can experience the effect of electricity…Like wise with your human eye’s you cannot see God, But can experience him through prayers and sacraments of church. Miracles performed in the name of God are yet another proof for his existence…

But after your life in this world , you can see him…

If you want to see him and serve him in this world, you can see him among the poor , handicapped, needy ,helpless persons suffering from diseases and serve them… Through this you are serving God.

‘Truly, I say to you: whenever you did this to these little ones who are my brothers and sisters, you did it to me.’ (Mathew 25: 40)

If you want to experience him , you can experience him through prayers, Holy communion , Sacraments of Church and meditation…

 

[Espero]

Path of rotation and revolution of planets, its shapes, design , everything shows the hands of a great supernatural person… God… Look inside your body itself , Different organs performing different functions , All are designed by a great architect…
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I would not like to have this debate, as it has been done many times. The universe is a chaotic place. Stars explode, famine hits, wars happen. Our bodies are far from perfect, there is not really an indicator for a designer. Soon our sun will die out, and us with it, that is, if we are still around.

Though, of course, you believe in one out of the millions of possibilities it could be. There are many options left, saying we don’t know how the world came to be is more appropriate. But once again, you provide a argument for something without fully giving direct evidence. Simply accept that there are things one can never directly prove, it is the best way to go (I would know, I am a theist )

 

[Espero]

If you want to experience him , you can experience him through prayers, Holy communion , Sacraments of Church and meditation…

Though I do respect your opinion in beliefs, I am not apart of your religion. Thus, what you experience is different than what I experience.

 

[Gidras05]

There’s entire books dedicated to showing how science and philosophy point towards the probability of God moreso than against God, and therefore that it takes more faith to be atheist than to be theist.

In fact, that last assertion has its own fair share of books. =p