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Walter_Maxey
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You then proceed to make the argument that the fact that some believe, and that some convert, is some evidence for God." there is no evidence for God. " therefore God doesn’t exist and belief in God is delusional
This is an untenable argument and here’s why.
Of course. Belief, and testimony of people about their belief, is “some evidence.”
For example, what if you tell me that our friend Joe stole some merchandise, and then I am called to testify in court that you told me that Joe stole the merchandise? Is that “some evidence” that Joe stole the merchandise? Yes, it is. But is it admissible evidence? No. It is hearsay (at least in US courts). In the end, you might run into someone outside the courtroom who would say that the prosecutor had no evidence…even if that person was aware of the hearsay evidence.
I think that is what is happening here when people say there is “no evidence” for God.
I think when someone says there is “no evidence,” they are saying that God’s existence is not a scientifically provable fact.
Of course, there is “some evidence.” Testimony is “some evidence,” and every earthly religion has the testimony of numerous people to support itself.
Thus, testimony is evidence for God, and for all the other gods…which means it is not very good evidence for someone trying to objectively decide between the many gods posited by humanity. Someone who recognizes that might say, “there is no evidence for God.” While that might be an exaggeration, it is not really that far off the mark. Nonetheless, when we argue with them, we should argue with what they mean (the evidence for God is exceedingly weak because it is not testable in a reproducible manner and therefore cannot be reliably adopted by an objective decision maker) and not what they say (there is no evidence for God).
Also, as Catholics, we cannot rest very easy for generic arguments for theism. If your argument works just as well for Vishnu as it does for God, then an objective listener could reasonably think that the argument is not useful evidence for God at all.