The papacy was sold?

[Imdaman]

How do you know this other than it is claimed?

The most basic answer to this is that we trust Jesus to keep his word. After starting his Church Christ stated that the gates of hell could not destroy it. We as Catholics believe that truth and has proven to be true so far so we have no need to him. Jesus being God does not lie or make false statements. Ergo: proof to the claim.

 

[Vonsalza]

I was being facetious sorry but yeah I have to break my skeptical feedback loop.

You do that by picking and committing to your base axioms.

For example, The Winged Victory of Samothrace is the most beautiful piece of sculpture that has ever been created. It’s feminine, yet powerful. Dynamic but also immovable. Human and divine. AND! All these qualities are real things.

(Moreover, anyone that disagrees about “her” is simply wrong.)

For your reference:
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[KevinK]

What does this have to do with anything?

 

[Vonsalza]

What does this have to do with anything?

Okay…

I have to break my skeptical feedback loop.

You do that by picking and committing to your base axioms.

For example, The Winged Victory of Samothrace is the most beautiful piece of sculpture that has ever been created.

Of course the last isn’t objectively true. I accept it as axiom.

Another axiom I hold is that “morality is real”.

 

[MichaelP3]

(Moreover, anyone that disagrees about “her” is simply wrong.)

I saw her in the Louvre and it was quite something. I definitely agree with you…

Which means I am right … if I get your point?

 

[Vonsalza]

Vonsalza:

(Moreover, anyone that disagrees about “her” is simply wrong.)

I saw her in the Louvre and it was quite something. I definitely agree with you…

Which means I am right … if I get your point?

Spot on!

Just not right in a way I can objectively prove. We happen to agree on base axioms - which helps us progress toward forming a community with common values.