The Parable of the Rich Man and Lazarus

[StillWondering]

I would like to share the this parable from Luke 6:19-31 just in case anyone has not seen it. The last line in the parable by Abraham is especially poignant since this is only eight chapters before Jesus Christ’s resurrection. Jesus is the speaker:

"There was a rich man, who was clothed in purple and fine linen and who feasted sumptuously every day. And at his gate lay a poor man named Laz’arus, full of sores, who desired to be fed with what fell from the rich man’s table; moreover the dogs came and licked his sores. The poor man died and was carried by the angels to Abraham’s bosom. The rich man also died and was buried; and in Hades, being in torment, he lifted up his eyes, and saw Abraham far off and Laz’arus in his bosom. And he called out,’ Father Abraham, have mercy upon me, and send Laz’arus to dip the end of his finger in water and cool my tongue; for I am in anguish in this flame.’ But Abraham said, ’ Son, remember that you in your lifetime received your good things, and Laz’arus in like manner evil things; but now he is comforted here, and you are in anguish. And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been fixed, in order that those who would pass from here to you may not be able, and none may cross from there to us; And he said, ‘Then I beg you father, to send him to my father’s house, for I have five brothers, so that he may warn them, lest they also come into this place of torment.’ But Abraham said, ‘They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.’ And he said, ’ No, father Abraham; but if some one goes to them from the dead, theyw ill repent.’ He said to him, ‘If they do not hear Moses and the prophets, neither will they be convinced if some one should rise from the dead.’ "

I pray that Jesus’s words would become seeds in the hearts of those who do not know Him or do not know Him well enough.

 

[mfj]

This is the saddest and hardest thing to take about all this Christianity stuff.
I would be broken if even one person didn’t except Christ. Imagine the pain Gd feels.

 

[mfj]

By the way good catch on the idea that Christ was soon to die and rise.

 

[Rohrer]

The point of this parable is that Lazarus was meek. He was like Job, he was not having very good luck at life so to speak. That is the frame of mind one has to be in in order to apply the “deny oneself” remedy to the full measure. So simply put the suicidal and depressed are the meek and have a chance to follow what Jesus said “Deny yourself;” and every other single person in the world is in various stages of arrogance. So Lazarus was raised from the death, and dead is the state of mind one is in after they eat off the tree of knowledge, written education, they have right brain veiled, so they are mindfully suffering and thus are in the place of suffering or what this passage says… this place of torment]

The whole concept that after one applies the remedy they will be at peace is not truth. With the tree of knowledge comes sorrow and with wisdom, applying the remedy, comes grief.
[Ecclesiastes 1:18 *For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow.]

Do you perceive Jesus was happy to go around and tell people to deny their self? Do you think Jesus was pleased to go around and tell people they had to “lose their life(mindfully) to preserve it”

If one is happy about anything they should be happy the fact they are happy only proves their ignorance is perhaps incurable.

Lazarus was not raised from the dead as in literal death. Lazarus was raised from mental death the tree of knowledge caused and Jesus assisted him to apply the “deny ones self” remedy and Lazarus did deny himself because he was in the proper state of mind, he was depressed and willing to “let go” and so he followed Jesus’ advice and then he was raised back to life, which is sound mind, and that means sound spirit.
Avoid assuming because you can say the word Jesus you have applied the remedy because Jesus did not say “Say the word Jesus” Jesus factually said
[Mark 8:34 *And when he had called the people unto him with his disciples also, he said unto them, Whosoever will come after me, let him deny himself,…]
Jesus said to everyone, deny yourself and that means to the full measure which means you have to totally let go of this life you have relative to after you ate off the tree of knowledge, edcuation, and that is mindfully totally let go…
That means you have to seek the shadow of death in a spooky place all alone at night and when your mind says “You will die if you do not run” you deny yourself and fear not and fear not evil. Until you apply the remedy you are vanity. So whatever you are praying to after you got the edcuation and before you applied the “deny yourself” remedy is certainly not God. Perhaps you should ask your cult leader is that is truth.

 

[Prodigal_Son1]

The point of this parable is that Lazarus was meek. He was like Job, he was not having very good luck at life so to speak. That is the frame of mind one has to be in in order to apply the “deny oneself” remedy to the full measure. So simply put the suicidal and depressed are the meek and have a chance to follow what Jesus said “Deny yourself;” and every other single person in the world is in various stages of arrogance. So Lazarus was raised from the death, and dead is the state of mind one is in after they eat off the tree of knowledge, written education, they have right brain veiled, so they are mindfully suffering and thus are in the place of suffering or what this passage says… this place of torment]

The whole concept that after one applies the remedy they will be at peace is not truth. With the tree of knowledge comes sorrow and with wisdom, applying the remedy, comes grief.
[Ecclesiastes 1:18 *For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow.]

Do you perceive Jesus was happy to go around and tell people to deny their self? Do you think Jesus was pleased to go around and tell people they had to “lose their life(mindfully) to preserve it”

If one is happy about anything they should be happy the fact they are happy only proves their ignorance is perhaps incurable.

Lazarus was not raised from the dead as in literal death. Lazarus was raised from mental death the tree of knowledge caused and Jesus assisted him to apply the “deny ones self” remedy and Lazarus did deny himself because he was in the proper state of mind, he was depressed and willing to “let go” and so he followed Jesus’ advice and then he was raised back to life, which is sound mind, and that means sound spirit.
Avoid assuming because you can say the word Jesus you have applied the remedy because Jesus did not say “Say the word Jesus” Jesus factually said
[Mark 8:34 *And when he had called the people unto him with his disciples also, he said unto them, Whosoever will come after me, let him deny himself,…]
Jesus said to everyone, deny yourself and that means to the full measure which means you have to totally let go of this life you have relative to after you ate off the tree of knowledge, edcuation, and that is mindfully totally let go…
That means you have to seek the shadow of death in a spooky place all alone at night and when your mind says “You will die if you do not run” you deny yourself and fear not and fear not evil. Until you apply the remedy you are vanity. So whatever you are praying to after you got the edcuation and before you applied the “deny yourself” remedy is certainly not God. Perhaps you should ask your cult leader is that is truth.

What ‘cult’ are you speaking about in your ‘ramblings’?

 

[Dokimas]

I would like to share the this parable from Luke 6:19-31 just in case anyone has not seen it. The last line in the parable by Abraham is especially poignant since this is only eight chapters before Jesus Christ’s resurrection. Jesus is the speaker:

I pray that Jesus’s words would become seeds in the hearts of those who do not know Him or do not know Him well enough.

Thanks for sharing this passage.​

IMO, that’s not a parable. I think it really happened. In my understanding a parable was a story told to make a point. All of Jesus’ parables are nameless. This give a real name making probably a true story not a parable to make a point.

 

[Rohrer]

What ‘cult’ are you speaking about in your ‘ramblings’?

1. The tree of knowledge is written edcuation and math. It veils the God image in man, right hemisphere.
   Proof:
   [we have been traditionally taught to master the 3 R’s: reading, writing and arithmetic – the domain and strength of the left brain.]

So society itself or civilization pushes this edcuation on children starting at the age of seven. Because the mind is not developed until one is over twenty, the damage relative to veiling right brain is devastating.
Proof:
“In humans, the frontal lobe reaches full maturity around only after the 20s, marking the cognitive maturity associated with adulthood”

So because any being that got this edcuation has right brain veiled they are simply left brain influenced containers. They see a child that is of sound mind and see that as “bad” so they determine to “fix” that child under the guise of “Let make sure all the children get educated” and “no child left behind”

So Civilization is simply a cult, and relative to the ancient texts, the cult of the serpent. So a person is born, they get the edcuation and they become a cult member and the right hemisphere, is veiled and they want to make sure the right hemisphere is veiled in their own children and also everyone child because misery loves company.

Proof:
“What it comes down to is that modern society discriminates against the right hemisphere.” - Roger Sperry (1973)

What is modern society? Civilization.

What is right hemisphere? The god image in man.

How does civilization sin against the God image in man and thus God?
Via the tree of knowledge which is : [we have been traditionally taught to master the 3 R’s: reading, writing and arithmetic – the domain and strength of the left brain.]

So all of civilization is the cult of the serpent and they veil the god image in man in children but because they had their right brain veiled as children they have no intuition, a right brain trait, to detect that, because intuition is the soul.
Civilization sold its soul and the soul of its children and so it does not even detect it is harming children at all with education.

This is why Just before the cult killed Jesus for telling this same truth he said [Luke 23:34 *Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. ]

This means Jesus certainly did not forgive the cult for doing what it does to children, he was saying God you forgive these beasts but I certainly do not.

Only mentally unsound or insane people know not what they do, and that is civilization, they had their right brain veiled so they are insane and they are harming innocent children on an industrial scale and they have no right brain intuition to even understand that is what they do, so they are not really humans in that state of mind, they are possessed or beasts as the ancient texts suggest.

Genesis 3:14 *And the LORD God said unto the serpent(one who got teh education the tree of knowledge, and did not apply the deny ones self remedy after words), Because thou hast done this, ((((thou art cursed)))) above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:

Thou art cursed, and your sense of time proves your right brain paradox no longer figures into your perception of time which is why your sense of time is so strong.
So Jesus said Deny yourself, because yourself is the serpent after you eat of that tree of knowledge, edcuation,. I find great humor in that.

You may want to ask your cult leader if that is truth.

 

[Prodigal_Son1]

1. The tree of knowledge is written edcuation and math. It veils the God image in man, right hemisphere.
   Proof:
   [we have been traditionally taught to master the 3 R’s: reading, writing and arithmetic – the domain and strength of the left brain.]

So society itself or civilization pushes this edcuation on children starting at the age of seven. Because the mind is not developed until one is over twenty, the damage relative to veiling right brain is devastating.
Proof:
“In humans, the frontal lobe reaches full maturity around only after the 20s, marking the cognitive maturity associated with adulthood”

So because any being that got this edcuation has right brain veiled they are simply left brain influenced containers. They see a child that is of sound mind and see that as “bad” so they determine to “fix” that child under the guise of “Let make sure all the children get educated” and “no child left behind”

So Civilization is simply a cult, and relative to the ancient texts, the cult of the serpent. So a person is born, they get the edcuation and they become a cult member and the right hemisphere, is veiled and they want to make sure the right hemisphere is veiled in their own children and also everyone child because misery loves company.

Proof:
“What it comes down to is that modern society discriminates against the right hemisphere.” - Roger Sperry (1973)

What is modern society? Civilization.

What is right hemisphere? The god image in man.

How does civilization sin against the God image in man and thus God?
Via the tree of knowledge which is : [we have been traditionally taught to master the 3 R’s: reading, writing and arithmetic – the domain and strength of the left brain.]

So all of civilization is the cult of the serpent and they veil the god image in man in children but because they had their right brain veiled as children they have no intuition, a right brain trait, to detect that, because intuition is the soul.
Civilization sold its soul and the soul of its children and so it does not even detect it is harming children at all with education.

This is why Just before the cult killed Jesus for telling this same truth he said [Luke 23:34 *Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. ]

This means Jesus certainly did not forgive the cult for doing what it does to children, he was saying God you forgive these beasts but I certainly do not.

Only mentally unsound or insane people know not what they do, and that is civilization, they had their right brain veiled so they are insane and they are harming innocent children on an industrial scale and they have no right brain intuition to even understand that is what they do, so they are not really humans in that state of mind, they are possessed or beasts as the ancient texts suggest.

[Genesis 3:14 *And the LORD God said unto the serpent(one who got teh education the tree of knowledge, and did not apply the deny ones self remedy after words), Because thou hast done this, ((((thou art cursed)))) above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:

Thou art cursed, and your sense of time proves your right brain paradox no longer figures into your perception of time which is why your sense of time is so strong.
So Jesus said Deny yourself, because yourself is the serpent after you eat of that tree of knowledge, edcuation,. I find great humor in that.

You may want to ask your cult leader if that is truth.

We are of the cult of the Nazarene.

You are another story.
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[Rohrer]

We are of the cult of the Nazarene.

You are another story.

Okay if that is truth, then tell me exactly how you applied “those who lose their life preserve it”
How did you deny yourself the full measure?

Are you able to tell me that the tree of knowledge is written edcuation and math because the serpent is unable to say that because it harms the serpent to say truth.

If you sense time the last person in this universe Jesus knows is you. You may not sense time and so then you are in the clear so tell me do you sense time? Do you deny “deny yourself” is the remedy that Jesus suggested? Do you deny “those who lose their life preserve it” is truth?
Answer my question so I can figure out exactly who you are? Making little witty comments means little in this narrow. You are not going to be making little witty comments infinitely sooner than you think. I would not tell you that if it was not truth.

 

[Prodigal_Son1]

Okay if that is truth, then tell me exactly how you applied “those who lose their life preserve it”
How did you deny yourself the full measure?

Are you able to tell me that the tree of knowledge is written edcuation and math because the serpent is unable to say that because it harms the serpent to say truth.

If you sense time the last person in this universe Jesus knows is you. You may not sense time and so then you are in the clear so tell me do you sense time? Do you deny “deny yourself” is the remedy that Jesus suggested? Do you deny “those who lose their life preserve it” is truth?
Answer my question so I can figure out exactly who you are? Making little witty comments means little in this narrow. You are not going to be making little witty comments infinitely sooner than you think. I would not tell you that if it was not truth.

Going ‘blah, blah, blah’ doesn’t tell us much either.

So Adam received ‘written education’ from Eve…

 

[Rohrer]

Going ‘blah, blah, blah’ doesn’t tell us much either.

So Adam received ‘written education’ from Eve…

I am mindful explaining the remedy is like planting a seed.
Often the seed falls on the trail and never takes hold.
Often the seed fails in the rocks and is burned up in the sunlight.
Often the seed falls in the soil but the birds come an take it away.
Often the seed starts to take hold but then the vines grow over it and it withers.
Seldom the seed , the remedy, is heard and one applies the remedy and they become a sower of the seed.

 

[Rohrer]

There are two people who got the edcuation, the tree of knowledge and they are asleep.
One who has applied the remedy to the tree of knowledge will explain to both of them the deny ones self remedy.
One will hear the remedy and only see darkness so they will remain asleep.
One will hear the remedy and they will see it as sunshine and they will wake up and leave the slumber.

 

[Prodigal_Son1]

I am mindful explaining the remedy is like planting a seed.
Often the seed falls on the trail and never takes hold.
Often the seed fails in the rocks and is burned up in the sunlight.
Often the seed falls in the soil but the birds come an take it away.
Often the seed starts to take hold but then the vines grow over it and it withers.
Seldom the seed , the remedy, is heard and one applies the remedy and they become a sower of the seed.

Gal 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach a gospel to you besides that which we have preached to you, let him be anathema.
Gal 1:9 As we said before, so now I say again: If any one preach to you a gospel, besides that which you have received, let him be anathema.

 

[Rohrer]

There are two beings with buckets.
One being has a hole in his bucket and one being has no holes in his bucket.
Both beings hear the fear not remedy and the being with the bucket that has holes cannot catch the concept of the fear not remedy so he ignores it and assumes it is foolishness.
The being with the bucket that has no holes starts to become curious about the remedy and asks more questions about the remedy until his bucket is full. Each question he asks about the remedy fills up his bucket until his bucket is full them he applies the remedy. The being with holes in his bucket has an easy load and the being with a full bucket has a heavy load.

 

[Prodigal_Son1]

“Stupid is, as stupid does.”

                                          *Forrest Gump*

 

[mfj]

WOW!!!
just when you think you’ve heard it all
WOW!!!
Can you say --exorcism?

Go
Prodical
Gal 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach a gospel to you besides that which we have preached to you, let him be anathema.
Gal 1:9 As we said before, so now I say again: If any one preach to you a gospel, besides that which you have received, let him be anathema.

So Adam received ‘written education’ from Eve…

:banghead:

 

[humble_maid]

Okay if that is truth, then tell me exactly how you applied “those who lose their life preserve it”
How did you deny yourself the full measure?

Are you able to tell me that the tree of knowledge is written edcuation and math because the serpent is unable to say that because it harms the serpent to say truth.

If you sense time the last person in this universe Jesus knows is you. You may not sense time and so then you are in the clear so tell me do you sense time? Do you deny “deny yourself” is the remedy that Jesus suggested? Do you deny “those who lose their life preserve it” is truth?
Answer my question so I can figure out exactly who you are? Making little witty comments means little in this narrow. You are not going to be making little witty comments infinitely sooner than you think. I would not tell you that if it was not truth.

You keep spelling this word incorrectly. Is this done on purpose? You are stating that education is evil; that all depends on what is being taught. Knowledge can be conceit:

"It is therefore better and more profitable to belong to the simple and unlettered class, and by means of love to attain to nearness to God, than, by imagining ourselves learned and skilful, to be found [among those who are] blasphemous against their own God, inasmuch as they conjure up another God as the Father. And for this reason Paul exclaimed, “Knowledge puffs up, but love edifies:” 1 Corinthians 8:1"

“Now there can be no greater conceit than this, that any one should imagine he is better and more perfect than He who made and fashioned him, and imparted to him the breath of life, and commanded this very thing into existence. *It is therefore better, as I have said, that one should have no knowledge whatever *of any one reason why a single thing in creation has been made, but should believe in God, and continue in His love, than that, puffed up through knowledge of this kind, he should fall away from that love which is the life of man; and that he should search after no other knowledge except [the knowledge of] Jesus Christ the Son of God, who was crucified for us, than that by subtle questions and hair-splitting expressions he should fall into impiety.”
Source: Against Heresies (St. Irenaeus) > Book II, Chapter 26

Knowledge is conceit when we impart our greatness over Him who saves us and created us. This is why the Church Father St. Irenaeus told us it is better to be simple and love God in truth. However, there is the scripture that states how the Bereans were faithful servants because they studied the scriptures and compared it to what St. Paul was teaching them; and so they found that St. Paul was speaking the truth about Jesus. These people were learned people in that they could read and write.

ACTS 17:10-11 "But the brethren immediately sent away Paul and Silas by night unto Berea. Who, when they had come thither, went into the synagogue of the Jews. 11 Now these were more noble than those in Thessalonica, who received the word with all eagerness, daily searching the scriptures, whether these things were so."

This is an excerpt of a Letter to Gregory(Bishop of Caesarea) his teacher was Origen.
“it shows how Origen considered the study of Scripture to be the highest of all studies, and how he regarded scientific learning, in which he was himself a master, as merely preparatory for this supreme learning.”
Source:newadvent.org/fathers/1014.htm

I don’t know from what cult you are teaching; please introduce yourself and be plain.

 

[Rohrer]

I don’t know from what cult you are teaching; please introduce yourself and be plain.

I am just a human being that accidentally applied the “those that lose their life (mindfully) will preserve it” remedy Jesus suggested to the full measure.

I would suggest you read some of the 15 books I have published since the accident of 15 months ago with the understanding I do not recall exactly what is in the books but only retain a mental sensation of the spirit of the books and be mindful the books speak to everyone differently. Some are wheat and some are chaff and I am not intelligent enough to discern who is who.
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