The poor in our midst - Do we care enough?

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Dearly beloved friends,

Cordial greetings and a very good day.

As we approach Lent I would like us to focus our thoughts upon the poor in our midst and ask if we really care enough and take seriously our moral obligation to help them. When I speak of the poor I do not exclusively refer to those who are in receipt of state welfare relief, but also those multitudes of ‘working poor’, who also cannot often afford to meet essential bills and who frequently have to choose between eating and heating during the cold winter season.

The poor generally, dear friends, have suffered tremendously from the financial disasters of recent times and, sadly, next to nothing has been done by the very rich to help them in their misery and distress. Indeed, last year here in the UK, Cardinal Keith O’ Brien, quite rightly accused the British Prime Minister, Mr. Cameron, of acting immorally by favouring the affluent ahead of ordinary citizens affected by the recession. Unfortunately, Mr. Cameron and the Coalition Government have woefully and inexcusabably failed to connect with either the workless or working poor of the UK, who now feel more marginalised than ever since he came into office. As a matter of fact, the UK’s unemployed and chronically sick have been continually harrassed and subjected to the most inhumane and harsh treatment dished out by any so called progressive country. They term it a ‘tough love’ approach and try to convince us all that they are grappling with ‘welfare dependency’ and a ‘sick note culture’ that has spiralled out of control. Undoubtedly, there will always be some work-shy people who do not want a job and who prefer to sponge off the community but they constitute a jolly small minority, contrary to the barrage of propaganda constantly put out by the ultra right-wing media. The great majority of the jobless dearly want to work and be self-reliant and thus they are deserving of our sympathy and support. Moreover, they should, it almost goes without saying, be the recipients of the pastoral care and relief of their local church where they are enduring severe hardship.

The climate today, dear friends, is such that any talk of sympathy and compassion for the poor and needy is met with a frosty response and if you champion the cause of the poor and denounce the savage cuts to their welfare entitlements, then you will be branded a Socialist or a bleeding heart liberal. This is, alas, indicative of the hardening of attitudes towards the poor and needy in our midst and, personally speaking, I am so appauled by the want of fellow-feeling and indifference that prevails nowadays. The way that some men talk, you could be pardoned for imagining that the words ‘workless’ and ‘worthless’ might be synonyms. Moreover, there is a jolly huge difference between voluntary and involuntary unemployment, especially owing to chronic mental or physical ill-health. In any event, many men urgently need to change their callous attitudes towards the unemployed and the sick in their midst, and persuade the public to do the same. Unfortunately, those who have been schooled in the values of the so-called ‘Protestant Work Ethic’ (industry, honesty, resourcefulness, thrift, etc.) have a tendency to despise those those poor souls who are losers in the struggle to survive, as if it were always their fault. If we profess the holy religion of Christ and entertain such un-Christian attitudes, then we need to repent of them and have a change of heart forthwith.

We must remember, dear friends, that those in desperate need and who lack the personal resources to help themselves, have a special place in the heart of Christ. The noted Latin American theologian, Gustavo Gutierrez, explains it thus: "God has a preferential love for the poor not because they are necessarily better than others, morally or religiously, but simply because they are poor and living in an inhuman situation…the ultimate basis for the privileged position of the poor is not the poor themselves but in God, in the gratuitousness and universality of God’s love. Now this does not mean that holiness and intimacy with God are impossible for the wealthy, it is merely that they present a greater and more urgent challenge. The sad fact is that many today, in their affluence and comfort, have closed their hearts agaisnt God’s poor (cf. I John 3: 17) and look for all manner of excuses as to why they should not give our of their abundance. Some will even stoop to the level of pleading poverty themselves! What they call ‘poverty’ and what those of very slender means call poverty obviously do not equate. It is really nothing more than the rich looking for any excuse not part with their money and distribute to the needs of the poor - it is actually, a shameful denial, that they are their ‘brothers keeper’.

It is, dear friends, not possible for affluent Christians to ‘stay rich’, in the sense of accepting no modification of economic lifestyle. One cannot maintain a ‘good life’ (of extravagance) and ‘a good conscience’ simultaneously. One or the other has to be sacrificed. Either we keep our conscience or reduce or affluence, or we keep our affluence and smother our conscience. Essentially we are called to choose between God and mammon.

God bless and thankyou for taking the time to read this.

Warmest good wishes,

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not really read it through but my answer is no we don’t

I am in England and yes anglican and had the unfortunate experience of sitting there at choir practice listening to how much money we got as a choir and how we could donate some and yet I am at this precise moment getting absolutely nothing because failed a medical for one benefit. I can’t get the other benefit because I have appealed for the original benefit and we continue to get when the appeal goes in but it that in between time and I have had to make up what benefit I am on to get NHS stuff and gas electric water tv hasn’t been paid for at least 3 weeks and got very little left for food and already on a bank overdraft as trying hard to avoid benefits loan because got to pay that back and barely enough even when getting regular benefit to pay back a loan on and I felt it utter disgrace to hear how rich we are as a choir that I can’t get a penny of that to help pay some bills to keep me ahead. I am not allowed a penny of it because it be an individual purpose rather than through an agency and it sucks that the church cannot help their own and the choir don’t know quite how bad I am at the moment because of village gossip attitude,but still even then I couldn’t have a penny of it because by law I believe it can’t go to individuals as such even though by rights, I earned some about £40s? worth admittedly via weddings but the choir long ago decided not to claim it and it stinks and the church don’t show that they care for their own. Though can care for others via charities in the parish but not of their own at all. We don’t recognise how to help each other but willingly help those who don’t go. Sorry for that letting off steam:mad:
 
“Do we care enough?”

NO. No, we do not.

“Unfortunately, those who have been schooled in the values of the so-called ‘Protestant Work Ethic’ (industry, honesty, resourcefulness, thrift, etc.) have a tendency to despise those those poor souls who are losers in the struggle to survive, as if it were always their fault.”

(I need to reread your post when my accuities are a bit better. I am fading quickly from the pressures of finding a roof, having very little money, no shower, and rarely being able to wear clean clothes, and being quite scared.)
A strong work ethic can be found across many faiths. A strong work ethic is also defined by individuals. I know too many people, who vehemently believe that everyone needs to
suck it up, stop being lazy, and get a job so they will no longer be “forced to support them.”
This belief, at least to which I am witness, is not at all limited to the Protestants, but across the faith board. Please, not ‘so-called’, but simply, Protestants. I, for one, have a very strong work ethic, feel painfully sad for the poor, and wish I could help. Then I remember that I am one of them.

Forgive me if I am misunderstanding that one line, but it did, at first offend me.
Please do not lump all Protestants as despising the poor. I do not despise myself or anyone else.

But I do otherwise agree with you. NO. No, we do not.
 
not really read it through but my answer is no we don’t

I am in England and yes anglican and had the unfortunate experience of sitting there at choir practice listening to how much money we got as a choir and how we could donate some and yet I am at this precise moment getting absolutely nothing because failed a medical for one benefit. I can’t get the other benefit because I have appealed for the original benefit and we continue to get when the appeal goes in but it that in between time and I have had to make up what benefit I am on to get NHS stuff and gas electric water tv hasn’t been paid for at least 3 weeks and got very little left for food and already on a bank overdraft as trying hard to avoid benefits loan because got to pay that back and barely enough even when getting regular benefit to pay back a loan on and I felt it utter disgrace to hear how rich we are as a choir that I can’t get a penny of that to help pay some bills to keep me ahead. I am not allowed a penny of it because it be an individual purpose rather than through an agency and it sucks that the church cannot help their own and the choir don’t know quite how bad I am at the moment because of village gossip attitude,but still even then I couldn’t have a penny of it because by law I believe it can’t go to individuals as such even though by rights, I earned some about £40s? worth admittedly via weddings but the choir long ago decided not to claim it and it stinks and the church don’t show that they care for their own. Though can care for others via charities in the parish but not of their own at all. We don’t recognise how to help each other but willingly help those who don’t go. Sorry for that letting off steam:mad:
I am really sorry you are not getting the help and the you are entitled to and very much need. I hope and pray your benefits get sorted out very soon and you will be alright.Your church could and should be doing all it can to support you and anyone else in need.I am sure that is what Jesus had in mind when He taught us about helping the poor.

Your story highlights what helping those in need is really about in the real world.

So many people (including myself) give money to organisations such as charities to help people in need but how much of that money actually gets to the people who need it is questionable.I donate food to my local Food Bank and other things.

Whenever I hear of or see anyone in need I do all I can to help.For example if I see someone on the streets who perhaps is homeless I will give some money and or a hot drink/food if there is a cafe nearby.In these difficult financial times I know not all of us can do that but we should try as hard as we can and be prepared to give all to our neighbour. For to truly love our neighbour as ourself is what God asked of us.

God gave us two great commandments

1.Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with thy whole heart, and with thy whole soul, and with thy whole mind, and with thy whole strength;
2.Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.

If we truly love our neighbour as ourself would we really ignore their plight of need?

The bible teaches us over and over again about helping the poor.

“Do not neglect to show hospitality to strangers, for by doing that some have entertained angels without knowing it.”
= Hebrews 13:2

“Whoever has two coats must share with anyone who has none; and whoever has food must do likewise.” (NRSV, Luke 3:10-11)

We all need to change and do all we can to love our neighbour and help one another without judging a person’s worthiness.

God bless
 
I would just add that the Catholic Church as an organisation needs to be doing much much more to help the poor.
It needs to lead by good example.

Church leaders need to be pressuring government leaders to do all they should.

The Church has an unfortunate and negative reputation in the world outside of the Church itself for having wealth and wearing of grand robes and gold objects and pomp and ceremony when so much of the world is starving and living in poverty.

We need to lead by example and the example needs to come from the leadership in particular. If we love God above all and love our neighbour as ourself then there should be no poor people…we are all failing.How can we change this?

I wonder what Jesus considers of our stance on helping the poor?
 
May God will be down I hope we get what God wants us to have I pray that your suffering will end soon. I live a life of entailment being in America but once I am able I want to cast away my worldly positions so that others might benefit from it.
 
“Do we care enough?”

NO. No, we do not.

“Unfortunately, those who have been schooled in the values of the so-called ‘Protestant Work Ethic’ (industry, honesty, resourcefulness, thrift, etc.) have a tendency to despise those those poor souls who are losers in the struggle to survive, as if it were always their fault.”

(I need to reread your post when my accuities are a bit better. I am fading quickly from the pressures of finding a roof, having very little money, no shower, and rarely being able to wear clean clothes, and being quite scared.)
A strong work ethic can be found across many faiths. A strong work ethic is also defined by individuals. I know too many people, who vehemently believe that everyone needs to
suck it up, stop being lazy, and get a job so they will no longer be “forced to support them.”
This belief, at least to which I am witness, is not at all limited to the Protestants, but across the faith board. Please, not ‘so-called’, but simply, Protestants. I, for one, have a very strong work ethic, feel painfully sad for the poor, and wish I could help. Then I remember that I am one of them.

Forgive me if I am misunderstanding that one line, but it did, at first offend me.
Please do not lump all Protestants as despising the poor. I do not despise myself or anyone else.

But I do otherwise agree with you. NO. No, we do not.
Dear cheezey,

Cordial greetings and a very good day. Thankyou kindly for your response and sorry to hear of your present troubles. You will be in my prayers this evening and I hope that your plight improves soon.

You are quite correct, dear friend, when you state that “a strong work ethic can be found across many faiths”. My apologies for the misunderstanding and I am sorry for any offence occasioned by my comment, for I did not mean to imply that a healthy work ethic was confined exclusively to Protestantism. It is simply that Protestants, beginning with Martin Luther, had re-conceptualized secular work as a duty which benefits both the individual and society as whole. Following this, the work ethic has come to be strongly associated with Protestantism.

As a former Anglican, dear friend, I would wholeheartedly agree with you that not all Protestants hold the poor in contempt and that many are actively engaged in alleviating their suffering and hardship, especially among Evangelical Christians.

God bless.

Warmest good wishes,

Portrait

Pax
 
not really read it through but my answer is no we don’t

I am in England and yes anglican and had the unfortunate experience of sitting there at choir practice listening to how much money we got as a choir and how we could donate some and yet I am at this precise moment getting absolutely nothing because failed a medical for one benefit. I can’t get the other benefit because I have appealed for the original benefit and we continue to get when the appeal goes in but it that in between time and I have had to make up what benefit I am on to get NHS stuff and gas electric water tv hasn’t been paid for at least 3 weeks and got very little left for food and already on a bank overdraft as trying hard to avoid benefits loan because got to pay that back and barely enough even when getting regular benefit to pay back a loan on and I felt it utter disgrace to hear how rich we are as a choir that I can’t get a penny of that to help pay some bills to keep me ahead. I am not allowed a penny of it because it be an individual purpose rather than through an agency and it sucks that the church cannot help their own and the choir don’t know quite how bad I am at the moment because of village gossip attitude,but still even then I couldn’t have a penny of it because by law I believe it can’t go to individuals as such even though by rights, I earned some about £40s? worth admittedly via weddings but the choir long ago decided not to claim it and it stinks and the church don’t show that they care for their own. Though can care for others via charities in the parish but not of their own at all. We don’t recognise how to help each other but willingly help those who don’t go. Sorry for that letting off steam:mad:
Dear englishredrose,

Cordial greetings and a very good day. Thankyou kindly for sharing the above and I am truly sorry to hear of your present troubles. Your Church ought to provide some sort of relief for you as a member of the flock and it is, in my opinion, a failure of a basic charitable obligation to a needy soul. It is understandable that you are angry, when even your parish church cannot help one of its own, as you say. What the dickens is the matter with them?; have they never read in Sacred Scripture that we are to do good unto all men, but epecially to those of the household of faith? Methinks that St. Paul would have a few things to say to that church of yours.

Whilst I am, dear friend, of very slender means and have to exist on Employment and Support Allowance (I have a severe long term disability), my plight is not as bad as your own. However, I now live in fear that I will loose my benefit as a consequence of the harsh and punitive welfare reform being implemented by our UK Government. Only last week I was discussing here on CAF the fundamentally flawed ‘ATOS Healthcare’ Work Capabiltiy Assessments (WCA), which are wrongly declaring many chronically sick people fit for work. Therefore, I can truly sympathise with you.

May God grant you His sustaining grace, dear friend, and I hope that there will be a happy outcome in the end and that you will get the benefit entitlements that you so rightly deserve. If you have not already done so, I strongly advise that you make an appointment with your local Citizens Advice or Welfare Rights group, who will advise and help as regards filling in forms (which often are a minefield) and assist you with any appeals against DWP decisions.

God bless and you also will be in my prayers today. Please feel free to PM if you so wish, dear friend.

Warmest good wishes,

Portrait

Pax
 
I am really sorry you are not getting the help and the you are entitled to and very much need. I hope and pray your benefits get sorted out very soon and you will be alright.Your church could and should be doing all it can to support you and anyone else in need.I am sure that is what Jesus had in mind when He taught us about helping the poor.

Your story highlights what helping those in need is really about in the real world.

So many people (including myself) give money to organisations such as charities to help people in need but how much of that money actually gets to the people who need it is questionable.I donate food to my local Food Bank and other things.

Whenever I hear of or see anyone in need I do all I can to help.For example if I see someone on the streets who perhaps is homeless I will give some money and or a hot drink/food if there is a cafe nearby.In these difficult financial times I know not all of us can do that but we should try as hard as we can and be prepared to give all to our neighbour. For to truly love our neighbour as ourself is what God asked of us.

God gave us two great commandments

1.Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with thy whole heart, and with thy whole soul, and with thy whole mind, and with thy whole strength;
2.Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.

If we truly love our neighbour as ourself would we really ignore their plight of need?

The bible teaches us over and over again about helping the poor.

“Do not neglect to show hospitality to strangers, for by doing that some have entertained angels without knowing it.”
= Hebrews 13:2

“Whoever has two coats must share with anyone who has none; and whoever has food must do likewise.” (NRSV, Luke 3:10-11)

We all need to change and do all we can to love our neighbour and help one another without judging a person’s worthiness.

God bless
Dear tbcrawford,

Cordial greetings and a very good day. Jolly good post and thankyou for your (name removed by moderator)ut. Love those biblical passages and a hearty Amen to that very last sentence.

No church, dear friend, should ever tolerate material poverty amongst it own membership. When our Lord said, “For ye have the poor with you always…” (St. Mk. 14: 7), he was not acquiescing in the permanence of poverty. He was actually echoing the O.T. statement “there will always be poor people in the land” (Deut. 15: 11). Nevertheless, this was intended not as an excuse for complacency but rather as an incentive to generosity, as a result of which “there should be no poor among you” (Deut. 15: 4). Look, if there is one community in the world in which the poor are freed from the indignities of poverty and physical need abolished by the voluntary sharing of resources, that community is surely the local church, Catholic or Protestant. It happened in Jerusalem after Pentecost, as St. Luke is at pains to show, when “there were no needy persons among them” and it can (and should) happen again today. How on earth can we allow our own brethren in God’s family to suffer want? We certainly cannot look to the Government to do it all, especially not now with all the savage cutbacks on welfare and housing benefits.

The urgent need of the hour, dear friend, is for more personal philanthropy, especially by more wealthy Christians, so that needy individuals and families in our church and the wider community can be helped. However, one cannot allow one’s duty to stop there. Poverty is frequently the fault of society rather than the poor themselves. Thus we have a social as well as a personal responsibility towards them and this will begin with a painful appraisal of the causes of poverty. I say ‘painful’ because there is this uncharitable tendency for the affluent and comfortable to blame the poor, or to find some other scapegoat, whereas the problem may often lie in the very structures of society in which we ourselves (willy-nilly) are implicated. For example, here in the UK the present Government’s shameful welfare reform programme is the occasion of untold misery to multitudes people, including the very sick and disabled. Many are being made homeless because of ‘capping’ to housing benefits and many are having to choose to eat or heat, just to keep a roof over their heads. This is is unacceptable in a civilised society and Christians should be denouncing the iniquitous and inequitable policies which have caused this.

God bless and thankyou again for your contribution to the discussion.

Warmest good wishes,

Portrait

Pax
 
Each day, I mourn for my soul that I cannot feel more deeply for those who need me to feel more deeply.

Sometimes, I weep.

I do not care enough. I am trying to get closer to caring enough.
 
Each day, I mourn for my soul that I cannot feel more deeply for those who need me to feel more deeply.

Sometimes, I weep.

I do not care enough. I am trying to get closer to caring enough.
Dear VeritasLuxMea,

Cordial greetings and a very good day. Hope all is well. Thankyou so much for that heartfelt contribution. May God help those who, for whatever reason, have allowed their attitudes towards God’ s poor and vulnerable to harden, ponder carefully your words this day.

God bless you my dear friend.

Warmest good wishes,

Portrait

Pax
 
Dear VeritasLuxMea,

Cordial greetings and a very good day. Hope all is well. Thankyou so much for that heartfelt contribution. May God help those who, for whatever reason, have allowed their attitudes towards God’ s poor and vulnerable to harden, ponder carefully your words this day.

God bless you my dear friend.

Warmest good wishes,

Portrait

Pax
Thank you, Portrait. I did not intend to suggest that I do not care. Rather, that it is an awesome responsibility that God gives us to care for the least of us, our brothers and that it is truly a challenge to care enough!

However, God does not entrust us with any responsibility that we cannot fulfill with the aid of his Son. Right?

Peace.
 
Dear tbcrawford,

Cordial greetings and a very good day. Jolly good post and thankyou for your (name removed by moderator)ut. Love those biblical passages and a hearty Amen to that very last sentence.

No church, dear friend, should ever tolerate material poverty amongst it own membership. When our Lord said, “For ye have the poor with you always…” (St. Mk. 14: 7), he was not acquiescing in the permanence of poverty. He was actually echoing the O.T. statement “there will always be poor people in the land” (Deut. 15: 11). Nevertheless, this was intended not as an excuse for complacency but rather as an incentive to generosity, as a result of which “there should be no poor among you” (Deut. 15: 4). Look, if there is one community in the world in which the poor are freed from the indignities of poverty and physical need abolished by the voluntary sharing of resources, that community is surely the local church, Catholic or Protestant. It happened in Jerusalem after Pentecost, as St. Luke is at pains to show, when “there were no needy persons among them” and it can (and should) happen again today. How on earth can we allow our own brethren in God’s family to suffer want? We certainly cannot look to the Government to do it all, especially not now with all the savage cutbacks on welfare and housing benefits.

The urgent need of the hour, dear friend, is for more personal philanthropy, especially by more wealthy Christians, so that needy individuals and families in our church and the wider community can be helped. However, one cannot allow one’s duty to stop there. Poverty is frequently the fault of society rather than the poor themselves. Thus we have a social as well as a personal responsibility towards them and this will begin with a painful appraisal of the causes of poverty. I say ‘painful’ because there is this uncharitable tendency for the affluent and comfortable to blame the poor, or to find some other scapegoat, whereas the problem may often lie in the very structures of society in which we ourselves (willy-nilly) are implicated. For example, here in the UK the present Government’s shameful welfare reform programme is the occasion of untold misery to multitudes people, including the very sick and disabled. Many are being made homeless because of ‘capping’ to housing benefits and many are having to choose to eat or heat, just to keep a roof over their heads. This is is unacceptable in a civilised society and Christians should be denouncing the iniquitous and inequitable policies which have caused this.

God bless and thankyou again for your contribution to the discussion.

Warmest good wishes,

Portrait

Pax
Hello Portrait
Thankyou for starting this thread. Sadly when similar threads such a this have been started in the past (including by myself) they have had rather uncaring selfish responses and have upset me greatly. I can only imagine the pain this causes Our Lord!

I wholeheartedly agree with your excellent post and agree entirely with your comments about our government and their shameful policies.These very policies are affecting family members of my own. Having two disabled sisters and my disabled mother (who lives with us) I am familiar with the damage.

The Housing benefit changes are causing untold misery to so many in the UK including family members.

I am thankful that I have the opportunity to care for family members including my mother who lives with us…there are many that do not have family to help them financially or practically.

If we really love God then we must really love our neighbour just as He commanded.For we cannot love God if we do not love our neighbour…and to love our neighbour we would not allow them to go without…

God bless
 
I can’t comment on what’s going on in the UK because I know very little about it. I don’t know whether any of the following applies there. I’m in the U.S.

I do not think we care enough for the poor in the U.S. I’m not talking about the majority who are receiving government benefits. Those folks are poor, but only as compared to the middle class, not in absolute terms. The truly neglected people in the U.S. are the ones who are truly unable to help themselves…the disabled needy. Neither political party does anything for them.

The “social welfare diseases” in the U.S. are middle class welfare and corporate welfare, which drain off ever greater portions of the national income. Middle class people vote. The desperately poor do not. The big companies that are favored donate money to political campaigns. Poor people don’t.

And the politicians tax more and more and more to buy votes and contributions, reducing the ability of people to do personal charity.

Whether that is the case in the UK or not, I don’t know. But since the problem here is political in nature, one is tempted to think it might be there as well.
 
I can’t comment on what’s going on in the UK because I know very little about it. I don’t know whether any of the following applies there. I’m in the U.S.

I do not think we care enough for the poor in the U.S. I’m not talking about the majority who are receiving government benefits. Those folks are poor, but only as compared to the middle class, not in absolute terms. The truly neglected people in the U.S. are the ones who are truly unable to help themselves…the disabled needy. Neither political party does anything for them.

The “social welfare diseases” in the U.S. are middle class welfare and corporate welfare, which drain off ever greater portions of the national income. Middle class people vote. The desperately poor do not. The big companies that are favored donate money to political campaigns. Poor people don’t.

And the politicians tax more and more and more to buy votes and contributions, reducing the ability of people to do personal charity.

Whether that is the case in the UK or not, I don’t know. But since the problem here is political in nature, one is tempted to think it might be there as well.
good point. Perhaps I am naive, but the homeless cannot vote because they have no address. If they have no address, they have no vote; no vote, no care for them. I feel as if the politicians ignore them because, hey, what can they do for these politicos?
 
good point. Perhaps I am naive, but the homeless cannot vote because they have no address. If they have no address, they have no vote; no vote, no care for them. I feel as if the politicians ignore them because, hey, what can they do for these politicos?
In my mind, the truly homeless are a different situation. Most of the homeless (around here at least) are insane people who are out on the street because of misguided “feel good” notions about “personal autonomy”.

The truly poor are not large in numbers in the U.S. If every one of them voted, it still wouldn’t amount to much. The big numbers are in the middle class.
 
In my mind, the truly homeless are a different situation. Most of the homeless (around here at least) are insane people who are out on the street because of misguided “feel good” notions about “personal autonomy”.

The truly poor are not large in numbers in the U.S. If every one of them voted, it still wouldn’t amount to much. The big numbers are in the middle class.
Oh, I do not doubt that. It just dismays me to know that so many people think they do not amount to much humanly, and that is just wrong.
 
Hello Portrait
Thankyou for starting this thread. Sadly when similar threads such a this have been started in the past (including by myself) they have had rather uncaring selfish responses and have upset me greatly. I can only imagine the pain this causes Our Lord!

I wholeheartedly agree with your excellent post and agree entirely with your comments about our government and their shameful policies.These very policies are affecting family members of my own. Having two disabled sisters and my disabled mother (who lives with us) I am familiar with the damage.

The Housing benefit changes are causing untold misery to so many in the UK including family members.

I am thankful that I have the opportunity to care for family members including my mother who lives with us…there are many that do not have family to help them financially or practically.

If we really love God then we must really love our neighbour just as He commanded.For we cannot love God if we do not love our neighbour…and to love our neighbour we would not allow them to go without…

God bless
Dear tbcrawford,

Cordial greetings and a very good day. Thankyou kindly for your supportive response.

Very true, dear friend, speaking of the miseries and afflictions of the poor in our midst often does elicit a frosty response, though I am delighted to say that this has not been the case in the current thread, quite the contrary. The reason for this, I believe, is that so many in the West are, materially speaking, very prosperous and really want for nothing. However, wealth and the personal comfort and security that it makes possible can render some (not all) people strangely insensitive to the needs of others, and perhaps quite oblivious to the distress in which the less fortunate sadly find themselves. Moreover, our time of plenty and pleasure, when “we have never had it so good”, has not been marked by a particularly high standard of spirituality or morality in the Western world. Now surely in this sort of climate, care for the poor and those who are loosers in the struggle to survive, will not be uppermost in peoples minds. Indeed, there will probably be a shameful tendency to despise such people and accuse them of being scroungers who are bleeding the taxpayer dry. Of course we must not encourage welfare dependency and fecklessness, but the UK Government’s unjust attack on the sick and disabled has, methinks, far less to do with getting people into work and more to do with appeasing the self-righteous, I’m alright-jack chattering classes of middle-England - but do not expect a politician to own up to that!

If, dear friend, we profess the religion of Christ then we should expect to have to give to our poorer brethren who are desperately and continually endeavouring to make ends meet. Indeed, a Christian should work with this aim in view, so that he has sufficient not only for his own requirements, but also to give to others in need - “Let him that stole steal no more: but rather let him labour, working with his hands the thing which is good,* that he may have to give to him that needeth*” (Eph. 4: 28, added emphasis mine). There is no room for selfishness or indifference in the life of the devout Christian and, moreover, his giving should become the motive for getting. Alas, affluence and a comfortable lifestyle can (though not always) result in the sort of self-indulgence and luxury in which people readily pamper themselves when they are abundantly surrounded with plenty. Once they have fallen into this worldly state it is hardly surprising that they fail to remember the poor and needy in their midst. The rich man in the Parable that our Lord told (St. Luke 16: 19-31) was “clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptiously every day” (v. 19). You could say that this chap had pomp, plenty and pleasure in great measure, yet it did him no good at all. Buying designer clothing, enjoying exotic holidays and feasting ourselves on the best of food, whilst at the same time forgetting the distresses of the poor and afflicted, is sickening as well as being very provoking to God. The sin of the rich man in the Parable was not so much his dress or diet, but his thinking of and providing only for himself. It is not even said that he spoke any harsh words to Lazarus or did him any actual harm, it is that he shamelessly displayed no concern for him and took no steps to care for him, which he was quite able to do had he so wished. Here was a real object of charity if ever there was and yet he missed a golden opportunity to be an agent for good. It is not enough that we do not trample on or oppress God’s poor; we shall still be found unfaithful stewards in the Day of Judgment if we refuse to help and relieve them. The reason for the fearful doom is: “I was hungry and you gave me no meat”. It is so difficult to understand how those well-off Christians, who read the Gospels and profess to believe them, can be so unconcerned and insensitive as regards the necessities and miseries of the poor and afflicted.

My earnest prayer, dear friend, is that during this Lent, those affluent Christians (and, perhaps, not so affluent) who have been indifferent to the poor and needy and have failed to alleviate their want and suffering, will repent and make a special effort to do good, not only in Lent but always. Remember, “we loose what on oursleves we spend” and now is the time to “Make to yourselves friends of the mammon of unrighteousness; that, when ye fail, they may receive you into everlasting habitations” (St. Lk. 16: 9).

God bless and may His sustaining grace be with you and your family at these anxious times in the UK.

Warmest good wishes,

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Pax
 
…The sin of the rich man in the Parable was not so much his dress or diet, but his thinking of and providing only for himself. It is not even said that he spoke any harsh words to Lazarus or did him any actual harm, it is that he shamelessly displayed no concern for him and took no steps to care for him, which he was quite able to do had he so wished. …It is so difficult to understand how those well-off Christians, who read the Gospels and profess to believe them, can be so unconcerned and insensitive as regards the necessities and miseries of the poor and afflicted.
Admittedly, this is what irks me. There are at least two people, who could help me just modestly and make a huge and positive impact on my life’s issues right now. It’s not that I expect or demand their help. It’s the fact that they seem so comfortable being family and saying "Well, good luck with that,’ as I lose everything, including the roof over my head. No apparent concern that a member of their family could be aimlessley walking the streets.
None. That is deheartening to say the least. And frankly, mean.
 
Admittedly, this is what irks me. There are at least two people, who could help me just modestly and make a huge and positive impact on my life’s issues right now. It’s not that I expect or demand their help. It’s the fact that they seem so comfortable being family and saying "Well, good luck with that,’ as I lose everything, including the roof over my head. No apparent concern that a member of their family could be aimlessley walking the streets.
None. That is deheartening to say the least. And frankly, mean.
Dear cheezey,

Cordial greetings and a very good day. Thankyou for the above and let me say, without going into any detail, that I understand fully from personal experience about family not wanting to help or be “willing to communicate” (I Tim. 6: 18). It is, as you say, very disheartening when close family members, among whom there ought to be natural affection, are so ungenerous. In my own family there is an unwritten rule that when you come of age you are on your own and must paddle your own canoe, even when you fall on hard times or simply cannot continue to paddle on account of ill-health. You must not be a burden upon people but must be self-reliant and think of the needs of others, even if you are having a complete mental breakdown.

As I said in a previous post, dear friend, some people who are financially secure and have never known what it is to want the basic necesseties, are strangely insensitive towards those who are struggling to survive in reduced circumstances. All the rhetoric about being self-reliant and not burdening others, is nothing more than a cloak to excuse being close-fisted and not getting involved. Moreover, when this is the response of those who supposedly profess the holy religion of Christ, it is just downright deplorable - “But whoso hath this world’s good, and seeth his brother have need, and shutteth up his bowels of compassion from him, how dwelleth the love of God in him?” (I Jhn. 3: 17) - how indeed! If we see a fellow Christian’s need and have the wherewithal to meet it, we cannot stand idly by and make all manner of excuses as to why we cannot help. How easy it is for men to speak of loving Humanity with a capital “H” than it is to love and help individual men and women that are known to us. Loving everybody in general may well be an excuse for loving nobody in particular.

It has pleased the Divine providence that some men are poor as this gives opportunity for the wealthy to exercise charity and do good. Unlike the Rich Man in the Parable told by Christ (St. Lk. 16: 19-31), the wealthy should take every care to see to it that they do not miss that opportunity. In doing good to God’s poor and needy and being “ready to distribute, willing to communicate”, they are “Laying up in store for themselves a good foundation against the time to come, that they may lay hold on eternal life” (see I Tim. 6: 17-19). This is what is required if we are diligently seeking for glory, honour and immortality.

God bless my dear friend and pray that your present needs will be met.

Warmest good wishes,

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Pax
 
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