The Pope and AIDS

[David_Paul]

The New York Times
Nicholas D. Kristof
May 8, 2005

Let’s hope that Pope Benedict XVI quickly realizes that the worst sex scandal in the Catholic Church doesn’t involve predatory priests. Rather, it involves the Vatican’s hostility to condoms, which is creating more AIDS orphans every day . . .

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[Lisa_N]

Oh PUH-LEASE, that herring stinks and has for a long time. Yes it makes PERFECT sense that people who are ignoring Catholic teachings, engaging in promiscuous, risky behavior, visiting prostitutes, are going to capitulate to the Pope’s request that while engaged in risky, sinful behavior, they wear a condom…right.

I am amazed that anyone with functioning brain cells does not see the incredible inconsistency of that argument.

Lisa N

 

[KBarn]

Well put, Lisa.

Perhaps if we didn’t have to be so PC when discussing AIDS, the disease wouldn’t be as out of control as it is.

We can say that eating poorly and not exercising will lead to health problems like heart disease and cancer. But we can’t say that homosexuality, sexual promiscuity and low morals contribute to the AIDS crisis. That would be “judging” others and trying to impose our morality on others.

 

[David_Paul]

Lisa N:

Oh PUH-LEASE, that herring stinks and has for a long time . . .I am amazed that anyone with functioning brain cells does not see the incredible inconsistency of that argument.
Lisa N

The New York Times rightly assumes hundreds of thousands of its readers do not see the argument is false.
Many are simply hostile to the church, enjoy having their biased confirmed and want a point to use against the church in their little NYC incestuous, backwater social gatherings. Others, and they are the paper’s real target audience, do not think of the church much or know anything about it. The New York Times constantly attempts to convert the vague neutrality of that group into hostility.

Nicholas Kristof must know the church in Uganda, working with the government, has dramatically reduced the rate of AIDS infection.

 

[WanderAimlessly]

Lisa N:

I am amazed that anyone with functioning brain cells does not see the incredible inconsistency of that argument.

Lisa:

That is the problem when you get to the radical fringes (both right and left). They do not think. All they work on is pure emotion which is just below rational thinking and just above running on animal instinct.

PF

 

[David_Paul]

“Everybody does it!”

No they don’t. There is no “radical fringe” on the right with the power and influence of the New York Times. Not even close. Individuals, a couple small groups, yes. But nothing like what we see propagated day after day by Time’s writers such as Nicholas Kristof, Maureen Dowd, Frank Rich and Paul Krugman. If anyone on the right went after a group the way the New York Times goes after Catholics and other Christians, they would be denouced by others on the right (William F. Buckley set that policy in the 1950s).

 

[Sgt_Sweaters]

Well at least the NY Times isn’t losing its touch.

As Chesterton once wrote, “These are the days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed except his own.” It’s an awful shame that this sort of sentiment is actually coming from the Church.

 

[abcdefg]

let those ignoring Catholic teachings die of AIDS

 

[otm]

What the Times writers, and everyone who lauds the will find is that this Pope will defend the Church’s position at least as vigorously as the last, if not more so.

And the Times will never get it, because they are not introspective enough to realize what the basis of their own philosophical approach is, and how inconsistent it is with reality.

And those around the dying will get it, when enough have died that it starts to sink in that what they are repeatedly doing is having the same result - in other words, they will get the old saw that one definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.

The sad part is that it is going to take a lot of deaths before they figure it out.

The older gays figured it out, and there was a drop in the rate of AIDS infections for a period of time; although they didn’t figure it out entirely, they at least got part of the message. However, the rate of infection is up again among the gay population, as new members have joined the ranks and returned to the same old behavior - multiple partners mutliple times.