The Pope Endorsed Slavery???

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crazzeto said:
RunningMan,

I’m sorry but you’re trying to say that the Church (and Pope) ever supported slavery just because it didn’t take the issue head on right away? Durring the persecutions? I’m sorry but that’s a weak argument, I’m sorry but in the name of prudence but it wouldn’t have been prudent (or possible) for the Church to effectivly take on every single moral issue head on in such a small and weak state.

The Church would go through great lengths to end slavery, from the earliest days highly encouraging the freeing of slaves, and later on founding entire orders who’s entire purpose was to secure the freedom of slaves. So dedicated were these orders they were required to, under certain circomstances trade them selves for the slave (i.e. if the slave was going to lose their faith) until money could be secured for their freedom.

Any suggestion that the Church was ever truely friendly towards the institution of slavery is based on a bad evaluation of history.
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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_and_slavery provides an interesting presentation on the practice of slavery in the Catholic Church and of the Papal involvement and pronouncements on the use of slavery, including the license for slave-taking given to the Portuguese and later the Spanish. The Church, like European society, was quite conflicted by it. However, it appears that the Church supported or tolerated the practice of slavery in varying forms throughout its history into the modern age.
 
crazzeto said:
Any suggestion that the Church was ever truely friendly towards the institution of slavery is based on a bad evaluation of history.
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romancatholicism.org/popes-slavery.htm
Pope Nicholas V issued the papal bull Dum Diversas on 18 June, 1452. It authorised Alfonso V of Portugal to reduce any “Saracens (Muslims) and pagans and any other unbelievers” to perpetual slavery. This facilitated the Portuguese slave trade from West Africa.

The same pope wrote the bull Romanus Pontifex on January 5, 1455 to the same Alfonso. As a follow-up to the Dum diversas, it extended to the Catholic nations of Europe dominion over discovered lands during the Age of Discovery. Along with sanctifying the seizure of non-Christian lands, it encouraged the enslavement of native, non-Christian peoples in Africa and the New World.

In 1493 Alexander VI issued the bull Inter Caetera stating one Christian nation did not have the right to establish dominion over lands previously dominated by another Christian nation, thus establishing the Law of Nations.

Together, the Dum Diversas, the Romanus Pontifex and the Inter Caetera came to serve as the basis and justification for the Doctrine of Discovery, the global slave-trade of the 15th and 16th centuries, and the Age of Imperialism.
 
henkt said:
I’m a little bit flabbergasted about so much historical ignorance.
Looks like fundamentalism, facts are not important, only the beliefs.
Well feel free to believe that popes are angels.

No use discussing. I stop responding

All the best

Henk Tuten
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The Popes are humans, NOT angels…which betrays your ignorance as laid out by your paper!

Not responding is a good idea. Go with that!

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