The Power of Music

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That’s unfortunate. I am glad though, that I can go to a Latin Mass at least once a month if I so desire, can go to a Byzantine rite Melkite Divine Liturgy, or just a normal ordinary form Mass, and all these places are within 30 miles (around 50 km) from me. I live in a state where 4.3% (in 2013, having trouble finding recent numbers) of the population is Catholic. Of course, I live near the border with the state of Georgia (which is 12% Catholic, as of 2013). I think, the fact Catholics are such a minority here, means that we tend to take it a bit more seriously. (Why Augusta has a Melkite church is beyond me, but I’m glad it does)
 
I am musically educated, and I enjoy all different kinds of music at Mass or in the church setting.
Same here.

Broadway-style songs at church? Could someone give me an example? I have a daughter who works on Broadway, BTW.
 
Damian Thompson is great reading.

Today we were “gifted” with Corner 2 of the Music Square:

(1) Good Music done well (2) Good Music done badly

(3) Bad Music done well (4) Bad Music done badly

The “victim” was Mozart’s Ave Verum Corpus. It was sung by a choir that, God bless them, can’t even do justice to an OCP hymn. We don’t understand why the music leader even allowed it.

For those who don’t know the piece, here is a link. Now imagine it sung by your grandparents.

 
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I find this article by Damian Thompson (Catholic Herals) mean-spirited.

His first clever “swipe” was at an amateur organist, of whom Mr. Thompson said, “would fail their Grade 1 piano exam.”

That’s mean! A volunteer organist is ikely someone who hasn’t had extensive training and does not have long hours to practice. They may have had lessons at some point, but probably didn’t major in music, and it’s possible that they learned to play on their own out of a willingness to step up and help out in their parish.

If a parish does not have a piano, many pianists will simply say “No,” when asked if they can play for Mass. But this organist said “Yes”…and instead of praising this person for their willingness to do their best, Mr. Thompson makes fun of him/her. Shame on him! This is the kind of thing that causes many children, teens, and adults to keep any musical knowledge a deep, dark secret from everyone in the parish. It is never appropriate to insult anyone who is stepping up and doing their best. Never.

So from the very beginning of the article I mistrusted Mr. Thompson.

My distrust in him increased when I learned that he STOPPED GOING TO MASS BECAUSE OF THE MUSIC!

In other words, he wasn’t attending Mass to participate in the Liturgy of the Word and to receive Jesus Christ, our Savior and Lord, in the Blessed Sacrament during the Liturgy of the Eucharist.

He was just there to hear a good concert.

And without “his tunes, man!”, he was unable to see Jesus. That’s so incredibly sad, and such a terrible example for other Catholics and Protestants as well. This man should not be writing for a major Catholic periodical.

His knowledge of music history has some holes in it. There are plenty of examples of “cobbling musicals ideas and styles.” Since the beginning of the Church of Christ in the New Testament, church music has evolved and changed with every generation.

He describes Gregorian chant and polyphony in glowing words, but fails to mention that these musical styles were NOT sung by a congregation that had previously sung during the Mass. Instead, these styles were so difficult that professional musicians were hired, and the congregation lost the right to sing Mass music.

I do agree with Mr. Thompson that the reason why church music (not just Catholic music) is not “glorious” is that we no longer sing together. This is why i am very skeptical about the possibility of Gregorian chant and sacred polyphony gaining a major, regular place in most parishes other than those in university towns and in huge cities with a large number of professionally-trained musicians–it’s simply not possible for a congregation to sing these musical styles with the very poor musical background that most of them have. And it’s also unlikely that any parish will be willing to set aside a major percentage of the budget to pay a professional schola or choir when there are so many other urgent and expensive needs in the parish.

I hope that the Catholic Herald will find a new music writer with a heart not only for music, but for the people who make and listen to the music.
 
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I find this article by Damian Thompson (Catholic Herals) mean-spirited.

His first clever “swipe” was at an amateur organist, of whom Mr. Thompson said, “would fail their Grade 1 piano exam.”

That’s mean! A volunteer organist is ikely someone who hasn’t had extensive training and does not have long hours to practice. They may have had lessons at some point, but probably didn’t major in music, and it’s possible that they learned to play on their own out of a willingness to step up and help out in their parish.
Okay, I can agree that that was mean.
My distrust in him increased when I learned that he STOPPED GOING TO MASS BECAUSE OF THE MUSIC! …

He was just there to hear a good concert.
I think the reality is that horrible music itself drives people away. It’s not the lack of one’s preferred music, it’s the presence of bad music. If there were a silent Mass, maybe he would have stayed. I don’t know.
And without “his tunes, man!”, he was unable to see Jesus. That’s so incredibly sad, and such a terrible example for other Catholics and Protestants as well. This man should not be writing for a major Catholic periodical.

He describes Gregorian chant and polyphony in glowing words, but fails to mention that these musical styles were NOT sung by a congregation that had previously sung during the Mass. Instead, these styles were so difficult that professional musicians were hired, and the congregation lost the right to sing Mass music.
Ah, the “congregation’s right to sing at Mass”. Where is that found in Church documents? And I’m not sure that professional musicians were always hired, but some kind of dedicated group of trained musicians were fostered. Is that so bad?
This is why i am very skeptical about the possibility of Gregorian chant and sacred polyphony gaining a major, regular place in most parishes other than those in university towns and in huge cities with a large number of professionally-trained musicians–it’s simply not possible for a congregation to sing these musical styles with the very poor musical background that most of them have. And it’s also unlikely that any parish will be willing to set aside a major percentage of the budget to pay a professional schola or choir when there are so many other urgent and expensive needs in the parish.

I hope that the Catholic Herald will find a new music writer with a heart not only for music, but for the people who make and listen to the music.
I think the main point of his article is the prevalence of bad-quality hymns written in the past half-century, their dominance for decades in the Church, and the refusal to foster chant and polyphony; the actual liturgical music of the Church.

People can be taught to sing chant. It’s not a superhuman skill. The will to do so in most parishes in the Catholic Church is simply absent.

 
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I hope that the Catholic Herald will find a new music writer with a heart not only for music, but for the people who make and listen to the music.
What is so often lost is the fact that the people who make the music are at the service of the people who hear and sing the music. The latter are the focus, and no matter how sincere, how big-hearted, how in love with Jesus the musicians may be, if they are not glorifying God and sanctifying the faithful (SC 112), they need to either change or stop. Making music for the liturgy is not a right, it is a privilege, and if they cannot or will not perform music that does the utmost to glorify God and sanctify the faithful, then they are at fault, and those who allow it to happen are at fault.
 
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Maybe wear earplugs a few times when you go to mass.
If my concerns were merely material, this would be the perfect solution.

But my concerns are spiritual, and I am not called to be a selfish ostrich when I see souls being affected.
 
It is music in 3 or more parts (at least, I’ve never heard of 2-part polyphony), where each part (sung by one or more singers) tracks with the other parts more or less closely, but not in lockstep.
Thanks! Turns out we actually did this in my first parish. Quite lovely (as long as it is clear to the faithful which part is theirs).

Lol, I even kinda did this myself in my one-and-only truly original Mass composition (not one where I stick lyrics into a public domain melody). The final refrain has 4-part harmony which does this.
 
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I fully understand re-thinking a post and deciding to chuck it. But since you were replying to me, I’d be interested if you want to give me your thoughts once you feel comfortable in how you phrase them.
 
Music is the language of emotion, and as such I don’t like music as I don’t like being emotionally manipulated by people I don’t know.
I agree - with one caveat: I am willing to be manipulated in the manner prescribed by the bishops in union with Rome.

But your words stir me to make a statement: if a parish cannot find even one person who will obediently perform music, then the faithful would be far better off with no music at all.
 
and all these places are within 30 miles (around 50 km) from me.
While at my parish (which actually has 3 places where Mass takes place due to Mission churches), I cannot even find one Mass that escapes the Youth Invasion composed by people in their 50’s, there is an actual approved FSSP Latin Mass 30 miles from me. One day I will go just for the experience (gotta buy a dress first).

But I do believe in staying where God plopped me and attempting to reform.
 
And here is an example of a polyphonic Mass.
So lovely! Thank you. Honestly, if this were played before Mass started, I believe there would be a different mindset instilled in the faithful - one of reverence toward what is about to happen rather than a Pep Rally mentality.
 
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