The practical consequences of allowing married clergy in the Roman Church

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In a nutshell, I see declining numbers of families attending church, threats of church closures, and adding a priest with a family seems to be an additional financial burden to a financially stressed system.
On the other hand, adding a priest who has already been married for quite some time, who is already well educated, who perhaps owns his own home, whose wife perhaps even has her own good job, whose children are older or even grown, would seem to be a bonus for a diocese. Right now we have a couple single “late vocation” men in the local priesthood. I’m sure there could be a few married “late vocations” out there as well.
 
On a positive note, I would envisage one of “the practical consequences of allowing married clergy in the Roman Church” could be the unique role of male mentorship that an older, holy grandfather/father would be to young Catholic men in his charge. Equally, a sign of a holy family is a good marriage and holy wife and the mentorship of such a spouse for the young Catholic women would be equally as beneficial. What may be lost on the swings may be gained on the roundabout.

I could envisage my own parents as such a team 20 years ago. Their ‘mentorship’ of us has borne the fruits of happy marriages and good children without exception. We’ve been blessed by those two.
 
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First, thanks for the good, fair, and reasonable questions…my thoughts…
In order to get married a man must meet, flirt and date with women. He may have to do this several times before he finds a woman who will have him.

Is this appropriate activity for a priest?
Certainly not in my opinion. The present proposals that are seriously being considered are for ordaining already married and stable men.
In the Orthodox (and therefore Eastern Catholic) churches the solution is that married priests are only possible if they were already married before becoming priests. Will this be the rule in the Amazon and wherever else it is adopted?
I hope so! As I understand it has been the tradition for the Catholic church for nearly 2000 years! As I understand, in the Amazon they are proposing that certain men in the Amazon are ordained preists who are already deacons. The rules for deacons are clear. They can’t get married once they are deacons.
Secondly, what happens when a woman gets a civil divorce from her priest husband?
They get divorced. Divorces happen. I’m sure there has occasionally been divorces for married eastern rite Catholic priests. Hopefully, they will choose stable married men who have been good deacons to very much limit the chance of divorce.
Thirdly, will the church be responsible for maintaining, housing, social benefits and pensioning of the priest’s wife and family? Or will marriage be the prerogative only of rich priests?
Yeah…this question…I’m not saying it is not a fair questions…btw. Why is it such a bad thing if a married man wants to be Catholic priest and can cover some or most of the costs of his family? So what? He may simply want to give a gift and find a meaning to his life.

I’ve read that priest regularly come from working or middle class. Is this really such a good thing? Personally, I don’t think so. My heritage is Irish. In Ireland 100 years ago the Catholic church was so powerful that having a priest in family could mean the difference between poverty and middle class. Are these really the right motivations to become a priest? These motivations sound to me to relate more to eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by others rather than eunuchs who have made themselves eunuchs for sake of the kingdom of heaven…just sayin…I think it really needs to be said…
 
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They will not allow priests to get married. Only married men to become priests.

2 and 3 will make for some serious issues.
 
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who go on to become Catholic priests.
Yes but it is possible that the door will be opened to men who are already priests to get married - as anglican ministers do, for example.
They won’t. There is 2000 years of documentation that priests cannot get married. Only married men becoming priests.
 
Thirdly, will the church be responsible for maintaining, housing, social benefits and pensioning of the priest’s wife and family? Or will marriage be the prerogative only of rich priests?
My guess regarding housing is this:

Married priests would be assigned to parishes where the rectory doesn’t house the parish office (or where they could easily separate the business from the family home.

Current rectories would be reserved for married clergy, while you would see over time unmarried clergy living in community (even diocesan). In other words, fewer priests will be living “on campus.”

The real issue starts to happen if/when you start to have more married priests than celibate priests… then you would start to have a serious housing issue.

Catholic Parishes are not going to be able to afford to pay priests a ton more money so they can have their own houses. So they would have to play musical chairs with the rectories
 
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I’ve read that priest regularly come from working or middle class.
In the USA, the vast majority of people are “working or middle class”. Very few people are categorized as “rich”, you pretty much have to be a Trump/ Perot level billionaire. A family with a million dollars in assets is generally considered “upper middle class” and unless they are elderly retired, generally still has at least 1 breadwinner working for a living. So it makes sense that the vast majority of priests are also “working or middle class”.
In Ireland 100 years ago the Catholic church was so powerful that having a priest in family could mean the difference between poverty and middle class.
Certainly not the case in USA, where having a priest in the family could get you a lot of respect among your fellow Catholics but did not do anything for you economically and in fact probably detracted from the family’s overall wealth as it was one less son making money.

I am sure there are still some countries where it is an economic advantage to become a priest (for example, if you are a poor young man in Africa, then becoming a priest could mean you get education and a chance to travel to/ work in distant countries, that the other guys who are not priests don’t get) but most places, it’s not.
 
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Im interested in the issues, not the terminology.
Terminology is important. We primarily communicate through language. On Internet fora terminology is even more important because we lose the other methods of communication such as facial expressions, body language, tone of voice, etc. Terminology is important to bring about accuracy and precision to what we write on here. It is also important so we avoid giving offence even when that was not our intent.
 
I find your remark offensive. Perhaps that wasn’t your intention but you achieved it anyway.
 
That’s an interesting point. If the rumor turns out to be true, and the forthcoming Apostolic Exhortation does in fact allow for married priests, what will be the reaction if, ten or twenty years from now, we see them having no more children than everyone else?
The reaction will be what certain people pushing for married priests seek and what others who have failed to deeply consider the implications but agreed with the idea, will feel regret for.
 
In order to get married a man must meet, flirt and date with women. He may have to do this several times before he finds a woman who will have him.

Is this appropriate activity for a priest?
Getting married was an appropriate activity at the creation, before the fall, and before the institution of a clergy. Also getting married was okay for priests up until the medieval times. So yes.
Thirdly, will the church be responsible for maintaining, housing, social benefits and pensioning of the priest’s wife and family? Or will marriage be the prerogative only of rich priests?
Pretty much half of the Christian world has married clergy. The logistics are workable.
 
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Or will marriage be the prerogative only of rich priests?
“upper middle class”
Perhaps the question is better phrased to be as follows: “Will married priesthood only be the prerogative of older upper middle class men?”

This will be asked if this happens in the US or Europe. The older married men who will be able to do this in the US will very likely be upper middle class rather than the priests today who are working middle class.

Further questions will be “Is it not better to give substantial scholarships to a young man from a middle/working class family, so that he can become a priest?” or “Is it not better to have a priest from Africa or Asia where becoming a priest could dramatically help his family?” These scenarios certainly aren’t bad, but the issue with this will always be whether these men are made eunuchs by others or whether they made themselves eunuchs for the Kingdom of God. Realistically celibacy is hardly a Christian invention. It was in a number of ancient societies probably because it provided a type of economic equalization.
 
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Yes but it is possible that the door will be opened to men who are already priests to get married - as anglican ministers do, for example.
The next suggestion of that by any church figure who knows what he is talking about will be the first.

That is not a real concern or suggestion that has made . . .
 
I find being lectured in a condescending way offensive.
I am unable to do anything about you being so easily and unnecessarily offended.

It was not a lecture. You said terminology was not important. That was basically excusing yourself from offending others. I was simply expressing why terminology is important. It was simply a counter argument to yours. It was not at all condescending.

You cannot express an opinion and be offensive and then complain, when you actually have no cause for complaint, if another person offers an opinion and you find yourself too easily offended.

Unfortunately, today this is an all too common habit of trying to shut down other people.
 
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I do not read Latin. Would you please translate this into English.
 
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