The Pro-Absurdity Revolution

[JimG]

“To be an orthodox liberal today, then, you have to believe an ever-growing list of items that are not simply erroneous but downright absurd.
. . .
It is a revolution in favor of absurdity; a revolution against rationality; a revolution against civilization. Against reality itself.”

thecatholicthing.org/2016/04/09/the-pro-absurdity-revolution/

 

[anon67074017]

Modern liberalism is a tool used by the New World Order. They want the masses to accept abortion and same-sex marriage. They will not stop until their views become the mainstream. Then they will move on to another progressive cause. That is the way it works. We do not know what their end goal is. May God save us from the New World Order.

 

[JimG]

Modern liberalism is a tool used by the New World Order. They want the masses to accept abortion and same-sex marriage. They will not stop until their views become the mainstream. Then they will move on to another progressive cause. That is the way it works. We do not know what their end goal is. May God save us from the New World Order.

I have to agree with you there. But I’m afraid that the end result of whatever new world order they desire will be a world of disorder and chaos, resulting from the rejection of reality. Civilization cannot long stand under a regime of unreality. Sadly, great chunks of our elites and institutions have accepted the reign of unreality as normal.

 

[edwest2]

“Progressive” means what? Progress toward nonsense? Progress toward what is not natural? Progress for a lot of bored people who have the time and energy to say up is down, black is white, blue is green BY LAW? Because we say so? And a bunch of bored academics with too much time and energy have jumped onto the “whatever fantasy we want is reality because we said so” bandwagon?

An old issue of Mad magazine had a cover to a fake Beatnik magazine. On it: “18 new things to protest!” Then put on your 3 sizes too large pullover sweater and go to some Beat meeting place?

NO. And again, no.

Take up a hobby. Get more exercise. Boredom is the primary secular “sin.”

Ed

 

[anon67074017]

I have to agree with you there. But I’m afraid that the end result of whatever new world order they desire will be a world of disorder and chaos, resulting from the rejection of reality. Civilization cannot long stand under a regime of unreality. Sadly, great chunks of our elites and institutions have accepted the reign of unreality as normal.

The global elite includes all of the liberal corporations like The Walt Disney Company. The Walt Disney Company promotes values that are materialistic and against God’s truth. We Christians should rise up against the global elite.

 

[JimG]

From the article:

"To be a liberal today, you have to believe in many absurd things. For instance, you have to believe:
• that unborn babies are not babies, are not human beings;
• that sexual relations between two men or two women are perfectly natural;
• that, therefore, only narrow-minded bigots would oppose same-sex marriage.
Newly added to the liberal creed are these two articles:
• that a man is a woman if he feels he’s a woman, and that a woman is a man if she feels she’s a man;
• that it’s bigotry to hold that men’s rooms should be reserved for men and women’s rooms should be reserved for women.

To be an orthodox liberal today, then, you have to believe an ever-growing list of items that are not simply erroneous but downright absurd."

thecatholicthing.org/2016/04/09/the-pro-absurdity-revolution/

 

[anon67074017]

From the article:

"To be a liberal today, you have to believe in many absurd things. For instance, you have to believe:
• that unborn babies are not babies, are not human beings;
• that sexual relations between two men or two women are perfectly natural;
• that, therefore, only narrow-minded bigots would oppose same-sex marriage.
Newly added to the liberal creed are these two articles:
• that a man is a woman if he feels he’s a woman, and that a woman is a man if she feels she’s a man;
• that it’s bigotry to hold that men’s rooms should be reserved for men and women’s rooms should be reserved for women.

To be an orthodox liberal today, then, you have to believe an ever-growing list of items that are not simply erroneous but downright absurd."

thecatholicthing.org/2016/04/09/the-pro-absurdity-revolution/

Those things are absurd. Liberal logic often amazes me.

 

[jeffrey_erwin]

**With all due respect to the Holy Catholic Faith, what’s absurd in my view is the focus on human reproduction issues (not that these should be neglected) to the point that we completely loose sight of our Lord’s most important admonitions: **

Always treat others as you would like them to treat you.
Return good for evil.
**And trusting in our Creator for our future well-being.

We may take communion on Sunday while priding ourselves on our vehement opposition to birth control, abortion, same-sex marriage, etc.
Then on Monday we may go to our workplace at an ICBM complex and enable horrible weapons of mass retribution against our Orthodox Christian brothers and sisters on the other side of the world.

That, my friends, is the height of absurdity.**

 

[edwest2]

**With all due respect to the Holy Catholic Faith, what’s absurd in my view is the focus on human reproduction issues (not that these should be neglected) to the point that we completely loose sight of our Lord’s most important admonitions: **

Always treat others as you would like them to treat you.
Return good for evil.
**And trusting in our Creator for our future well-being.

We may take communion on Sunday while priding ourselves on our vehement opposition to birth control, abortion, same-sex marriage, etc.
Then on Monday we may go to our workplace at an ICBM complex and enable horrible weapons of mass retribution against our Orthodox Christian brothers and sisters on the other side of the world.

That, my friends, is the height of absurdity.**

That is the nature of good and evil. The doctrine is called MAD - Mutually Assured Destruction. I was there in 1962 when the President of the United States appeared on TV and spoke, in no uncertain terms, what needed to be said, very clearly.

We went to bed at night. We slept. We knew, young and old, what was at stake. The Price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance.

Ed

 

[Latias]

Modern liberalism is a tool used by the New World Order. They want the masses to accept abortion and same-sex marriage. They will not stop until their views become the mainstream. Then they will move on to another progressive cause. That is the way it works. We do not know what their end goal is. May God save us from the New World Order.

Hulk Hogan has been ostracized as a racist, and Scott Hall has been drug addled for years.

Honestly, I didn’t watch an episode of Nitro, but I watched a few episodes of RAW and Smackdown. I never was a fan, but it was a somewhat interesting cultural phenomenon.

 

[jeffrey_erwin]

That is the nature of good and evil. The doctrine is called MAD - Mutually Assured Destruction. I was there in 1962 when the President of the United States appeared on TV and spoke, in no uncertain terms, what needed to be said, very clearly.

We went to bed at night. We slept. We knew, young and old, what was at stake. The Price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance.
Ed

Unfortunately “Freedom” does not seem to be a goal of religious teachings:

**“No; anyone who wants to be great among you must be your servant, and anyone who wants to be first among you must be your slave . . .” **Matt. 20:27
"We see some people who desired freedom boasting of it. They are in manifest ignorance. The consequences of freedom end in sedition, the fire of which is unquenchable.(Mirzah Husayn Ali)

The philosophy of “deterrence” is contrary to the Gospel where our Lord instucted us that we must return good for evil. “Deterrence” is just a polite word for vengeance and retribution.
“Deterrence” is, in truth, a form of terrorism.
The Catholic Church has now condemned the MAD doctrine.

ncronline.org/news/peace-justice/catholics-press-nuclear-weapons-ban-un-treaty-review-conference

dailykos.com/story/2004/3/9/18872/-

 

[edwest2]

Unfortunately “Freedom” does not seem to be a goal of religious teachings:

**“No; anyone who wants to be great among you must be your servant, and anyone who wants to be first among you must be your slave . . .” **Matt. 20:27
"We see some people who desired freedom boasting of it. They are in manifest ignorance. The consequences of freedom end in sedition, the fire of which is unquenchable.(Mirzah Husayn Ali)

The philosophy of “deterrence” is contrary to the Gospel where our Lord instucted us that we must return good for evil. “Deterrence” is just a polite word for vengeance and retribution.
“Deterrence” is, in truth, a form of terrorism.
The Catholic Church has now condemned the MAD doctrine.

ncronline.org/news/peace-justice/catholics-press-nuclear-weapons-ban-un-treaty-review-conference

dailykos.com/story/2004/3/9/18872/-

It’s not going to go away. Defense is not vengeance. In 1959, the US and USSR deployed ICBMs. In 1962, during the Cuban Missile Crisis, World War III could have occurred. Thanks to diplomacy, it did not. Nuclear arsenals will continue to exist as a form of self-defense. Now, a new doctrine is emerging. Let’s just say it’s a no troop contact with the enemy approach. If you want to destroy a target, you send in drones armed with missiles while command and control personnel sit in bunkers on the other side of the planet. Live video, facial recognition, confirmation, launch go-ahead and immediate damage assessment.

Unmanned vehicles will play a greater role.

Ed

 

[jeffrey_erwin]

It’s not going to go away. Defense is not vengeance. In 1959, the US and USSR deployed ICBMs. In 1962, during the Cuban Missile Crisis, World War III could have occurred. Thanks to diplomacy, it did not. Nuclear arsenals will continue to exist as a form of self-defense.
Ed

**The USA is a democracy, and its people could easily make the nuclear stand-off with Russia “go away” by electing leaders who would be willing to unilaterally disarm our nuclear weapons.
It is as simple as that.

The USA is not at war with Russia and never has been.
The idea that Russia would immediately launch a nuclear attack against the USA the moment it stood down its nuclear weapons of retaliation is just silly.
The Russians are just as afraid of us as we are of them.
A nuclear war is much more likely to be started out of fear of being attacked than it is for aggressive reasons.

“Defense” would be an anti-missile system, or an underground bunker, or an anti-aircraft gun.
ICBMs are not “defense.” They are instruments of retaliation and vengeance, outright terrorism plain and simple.
Perhaps the reason that we are so eager to classify these horrible creations as “defense” as that we do not want to admit that the USA is the largest terrorist country in the world.

As for the Cuban Crisis, all of JFK’s advisors wanted an invasion.
Unbeknownst to them was the fact that Cuban generals had tactical nuclear weapons at their disposal as well as the advance authorization to use them if necessary.
And a Soviet submarine was just one officer’s ok away from attacking the US fleet with a nuclear armed torpedo.
While it is true that JFK’s diplomacy eventually led to a resolution, it was just pure luck that prevented a nuclear war.

Let’s imagine that two men reside in a town, and each thinks that he should be the town sheriff. They sit together at a table, and each holds a loaded pistol pointed at the other’s head.
Each is afraid to fire out of fear that that shooting will cause the other’s gun to fire also.
But neither is willing to put down his pistol, not so much out of fear of being shot if he does so, but more out of an intense resistance to the idea of ceding the position of town sheriff to the other.
Adding to this insanity is the the fact that one of these guys is afflicted with multiple personality syndrome: every eight years a new and unpredictable identity pops up in his brain.

I really is time for someone to come to their senses and put down their gun. That brave action falls by default to the USA. **

ucsusa.org/publications/cartoon-march-2016.html?autologin=true#.Vt72FPkrKUk

 

[DAML72]

“Progressive” means what? Progress toward nonsense? Progress toward what is not natural? Progress for a lot of bored people who have the time and energy to say up is down, black is white, blue is green BY LAW? Because we say so? And a bunch of bored academics with too much time and energy have jumped onto the “whatever fantasy we want is reality because we said so” bandwagon?

An old issue of Mad magazine had a cover to a fake Beatnik magazine. On it: “18 new things to protest!” Then put on your 3 sizes too large pullover sweater and go to some Beat meeting place?

NO. And again, no.

Take up a hobby. Get more exercise. Boredom is the primary secular “sin.”

Ed

You completely hit the nail on the head!

 

[edwest2]

**The USA is a democracy, and its people could easily make the nuclear stand-off with Russia “go away” by electing leaders who would be willing to unilaterally disarm our nuclear weapons.
It is as simple as that.

The USA is not at war with Russia and never has been.
The idea that Russia would immediately launch a nuclear attack against the USA the moment it stood down its nuclear weapons of retaliation is just silly.
The Russians are just as afraid of us as we are of them.
A nuclear war is much more likely to be started out of fear of being attacked than it is for aggressive reasons.

“Defense” would be an anti-missile system, or an underground bunker, or an anti-aircraft gun.
ICBMs are not “defense.” They are instruments of retaliation and vengeance, outright terrorism plain and simple.
Perhaps the reason that we are so eager to classify these horrible creations as “defense” as that we do not want to admit that the USA is the largest terrorist country in the world.

As for the Cuban Crisis, all of JFK’s advisors wanted an invasion.
Unbeknownst to them was the fact that Cuban generals had tactical nuclear weapons at their disposal as well as the advance authorization to use them if necessary.
And a Soviet submarine was just one officer’s ok away from attacking the US fleet with a nuclear armed torpedo.
While it is true that JFK’s diplomacy eventually led to a resolution, it was just pure luck that prevented a nuclear war.

Let’s imagine that two men reside in a town, and each thinks that he should be the town sheriff. They sit together at a table, and each holds a loaded pistol pointed at the other’s head.
Each is afraid to fire out of fear that that shooting will cause the other’s gun to fire also.
But neither is willing to put down his pistol, not so much out of fear of being shot if he does so, but more out of an intense resistance to the idea of ceding the position of town sheriff to the other.
Adding to this insanity is the the fact that one of these guys is afflicted with multiple personality syndrome: every eight years a new and unpredictable identity pops up in his brain.

I really is time for someone to come to their senses and put down their gun. That brave action falls by default to the USA. **

ucsusa.org/publications/cartoon-march-2016.html?autologin=true#.Vt72FPkrKUk

I know what JFK’s advisors wanted. The problem was Russia. Why did it detonate its first atomic bomb in 1949, buy a powerful jet engine from the British, take it apart, build copies, and put it into its MiG-15s? Then, the Korean War promptly started in 1950. Russian “advisors” were flying MiGs and manning anti-aircraft installations, which was unconfirmed for a time. Then the Chinese sent in troops.

Turn off the news and read the open defense literature. China has ICBMs and could easily allow the deaths of a billion people, if needed. The current consensus is based on constant threat level assessment and response scenarios that change as new technology appears.

All those ships the “other side” is building, constantly updated aircraft, constant defense production. The primary purpose of any major country is war. During times of peace, prepare for war. That’s been true since a man wrote a book in 5 B.C.

Ed

I’m for peace by the way. Just check how much of a country’s GDP goes toward defense. Laser weapons for US naval ships exist. Ground-based lasers exist. Airborne lasers exist. And the latest toy, a UAV, successfully took off and landed on a US aircraft carrier.

 

[mikekle]

I have to agree with you there. But I’m afraid that the end result of whatever new world order they desire will be a world of disorder and chaos, resulting from the rejection of reality. Civilization cannot long stand under a regime of unreality. Sadly, great chunks of our elites and institutions have accepted the reign of unreality as normal.

I agree too, but not with your opinion of the end results, I think instead of disorder and chaos, it will be very strict control and nothing close to chaos.

It will be done thru laws and regulations, more and more control over our lives will be given to those in power, if its done very slowly and methodically, they can sort of fool the masses that whats going on is in their best interest, over time, eventually, we could be living in a total police state, where nearly everything is regulated, but majority of people would not see a problem with this.

People may whine and cry a little at first when new regulations and laws are put in place, but just look around, eventually they get tired of complaining, writing letters to lawmakers, so they just accept it and give in. People in power recognize this, they know majority of people out there are not going to risk their freedom over trivial things, when its much easier to just obey.

If you asked someone 50 yrs ago what some of the big issues would be in the future, I doubt any of them would have mentioned gender and bathroom selections. LOL

Im sure the issues in 2066 will be even more absurd than even we can imagine.

 

[anon67074017]

I agree too, but not with your opinion of the end results, I think instead of disorder and chaos, it will be very strict control and nothing close to chaos.

It will be done thru laws and regulations, more and more control over our lives will be given to those in power, if its done very slowly and methodically, they can sort of fool the masses that whats going on is in their best interest, over time, eventually, we could be living in a total police state, where nearly everything is regulated, but majority of people would not see a problem with this.

People may whine and cry a little at first when new regulations and laws are put in place, but just look around, eventually they get tired of complaining, writing letters to lawmakers, so they just accept it and give in. People in power recognize this, they know majority of people out there are not going to risk their freedom over trivial things, when its much easier to just obey.

If you asked someone 50 yrs ago what some of the big issues would be in the future, I doubt any of them would have mentioned gender and bathroom selections. LOL

Im sure the issues in 2066 will be even more absurd than even we can imagine.

I think the left will continue to advance because of this. Western society appears to be biased in favor of the left.

 

[edwest2]

I’m not. The Left or Progressives will see that reality is real. Their boredom and enthusiasm with promoting the unreal will fall in on itself. There are more people who know this. The Anarchists and Hippies of the late 1960s are trying to stage a comeback. Their excesses will catch up with them. Meanwhile, some of us live in peace. I’ve heard them and ignore them. I will not vote for them.

Ed

 

[mikekle]

I think the left will continue to advance because of this. Western society appears to be biased in favor of the left.

Do you ever wonder if all the stupid stuff making headlines today are just a cover story for ‘hiding’ the REAL things taking place in our world?

 

[edwest2]

Do you ever wonder if all the stupid stuff making headlines today are just a cover story for ‘hiding’ the REAL things taking place in our world?

There are very important things going on but “the news” has become infotainment, light on the info.

I do research into other fields but the news found there is rarely reported because the goal is to keep people amused and not educated. That way, citizens hear the propaganda and believe in the world the media paints in their minds, as opposed to learning the truth and exploring the issues in depth.

Ed