The problem of Femicide in the world

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Femicide or feminicide is a sex-based hate crime term, broadly defined as “the intentional killing of females (women or girls) because they are females”, though definitions vary depending on the cultural context.[1] Feminist author Diana E. H. Russell was the first person to define and disseminate this term in 1976. She defines the word as “the killing of females by males because they are female.” Other feminists place emphasis on the intention or purpose of the act being directed at females specifically because they are female; others include the killing of females by females.[2]
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Femicide happens to an extent everywhere. Some countries in Latin America have this problem, Argentina is known to have this, it being far away as it is. Mexico definitely has it and I think there is an article in the news now about a woman who maps all of the locations. All the same, femicide even happens in the UK but the rate has to be exceedingly low and I wouldn’t want to trivialize anything in saying it. Every case is unique and tragic wherever it occurs.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/ukne...d-by-men-in-2017-knew-their-killer/ar-BBR6q70
 
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It is tragic,yes. Very tragic .
The Ni una Menos movement (Not One Less) is bringing to light that this happens and more awareness of mistreatment and even the killing of women.
Justice which is slow,is no justice…
It is like now,communities react. Women and men. Thanks God.
 
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Victoria33 said:
“the intentional killing of females (women or girls) because they are females”
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Woman and men are killed for several motives including: jealousy, lust, hate. In a word: the passions.

The noun “Femicide”, being coined only in 1976, pretends to mask the older expression: “crime of passion”.

But the term “Femicide” itself is completely incorrect, in that “Le crime passionnel” has always existed regardless of gender and only referring to motives.

A strict definition of Femicide (a neologism) would refer only to the gender of the victim and not the motives.

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I think the issue is male violence and what we can do to reduce it.
 
Please understand @Victoria33 that polarizing discourse by politicizing words (in themselves) along gender division does not add towards a solution but indeed adds to the problem because it is “inflaming” of yet more passions and yet more gender division.

The passions themselves need to be addressed, the morality of the passions.
 
But men are statistically more likely to commit violent crime. We need to look at how we are raising boys and the environments men live in.
 
I don’t know…radical feminism drives abortion to be called “healthcare”. This year worldwide, there will around 40 million abortions, and since women make up 50% of the population, thats about 20 million dead women. If you go to countries that culturally favor men, like China and India, sex selective abortions appear to be a real war on women


While I don’t want to minimize femicide of already born women, the larger numbers of deaths of women occur when they are in the womb. The acceptance of abortion is not a male issue.
 
The problem is absolutely, undeniably male violence against women. Male “passions” are a plague on society worldwide. Denying the gendered aspect of the murder of women is a part of the problem.

Thank you, Victoria33, for reminding us all of this issue. ❤️
 
adgloriam said:
Woman and men are killed for several motives including: jealousy, lust, hate. In a word: the passions.

The noun “Femicide”, being coined only in 1976, pretends to mask the older expression: “crime of passion”.

But the term “Femicide” itself is completely incorrect, in that “ Le crime passionnel ” has always existed regardless of gender and only referring to motives.

A strict definition of Femicide (a neologism ) would refer only to the gender of the victim and not the motives.

Grammatical Gender
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But we aren’t necessarily talking about a crime a passion here, there has been ample evidence that in some cases, it has been cults, ritualistic killings, criminal organizations that have hunted these women down. That’s hardly a crime of passion. Something kidnappers have done. Desparicidos and so on.

Brazil seems to have a Domestic Violence problem, I don’t hear femicide talked about as much in regards to Brazil but it would not surprise me to hear it exists there.

Calling this a crime of passion respectfully, may be the disservice. Now, when the wiki article says “hate crime”, I don’t know if I go along with all of that, that is posted for discussion’s sake.

Those in the UK may well be mostly “crimes of passion” per that article in post #1. The point of that was just to show, this is a widespread phenomenon in the world. I don’t know if it is everywhere, it is in many places.
 
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So violence against men is not a problem? Nay, violence against anyone is the issue. I don’t want to get abused any less than you do.

Reason why however women are more commonly reported victims of violence however is because the perpetrator feels that they are too weak or unsuspecting to retaliate (usually how it is, they wouldn’t try to get physical with a prime George Foreman). Not to mention that I observed men having a stigma regarding reporting abuse, if a man starts complaining about abuse (in general but especially from a woman) he is seen as weak and a wimp so he is taught to just bottle it in. This is seriously unhealthy and distorts statistics as men under-report it, and in a sense it turns into victim blaming.

Adding onto this different perspective I can also say that the abuse of men is normalised throughout the media. You even see it on the TV, woman smacks her “slow” husband because he goes to golf and forgets to do any of the housework cues laugh track. I would just love to see a sitcom that reverses the gender roles and has the man facepalming and calling his wife slow and dimwitted after she goes out bowling and forgets to pick up her kids. Wouldn’t make it past the pilot.

But I digress, because of this any potential solution must target the violence itself, not target genders and make it political. Moment you make it political you have no hope of solving it without creating multiple new problems in its place.

Just my 2 cents

-Kindest regards, Jim.
 
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ConfusedLucy said:
But men are statistically more likely to commit violent crime. We need to look at how we are raising boys and the environments men live in.
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There is lots of data on “how we are raising” those men and “the environment” they live in. Statistically, 70-80% of those men who commit violent crime are raised by women (single mothers). So the solution is for women to not have children out of wedlock and heavily vet any man before marrying him to make sure he won’t bolt once the kids are born.
 
Religions and members of those religions have been targeted with violence in the world today, we know this. People of certain ethnic backgrounds have been targeted with violence. So, then, all of a sudden, to remove gender from this discussion does not seem helpful to me.

More reading:

" The motives behind the killings are unclear – some have theorized that the women were at the heart of satanic rituals, or organ trafficking or simply the victims of an anger at women being favoured over men to work in the maquilladoras"
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Gray printing on that page make it a bit difficult to read, go to the reader’s version icon at the top if it is troubling.

But anyway, as said above, the motives are not that clear.
 
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Isn’t it odd that you talk about violence directed to all these different groups like race and religion and then suddenly want to focus only on the female victims?

How is that helping? Helping for what?
 
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Jim-Eustachius said:
Isn’t it odd that you talk about violence directed to all these different groups like race and religion and then suddenly want to focus only on the female victims?

How is that helping? Helping for what?
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Perhaps, you can give us a list of helpful topics. I’ve been respectful of comments but perhaps some of us sitting in our comfortable Western homes don’t even know what is being discussed here.

By the same token, one could say what you said in about any topic in this forum. “How is it helping if we talk about underage drinking”, “about abortion”. This is a discussion forum after all.

This is the social justice forum afterall, I certainly hope someone has a track record of discussing issues here if they are forming judgmental opinions.

Now, the list of helpful topics, what might it be? Don’t text while driving? Migrant caravan. I’m all ears.
 
KMC said:
While I don’t want to minimize femicide of already born women, the larger numbers of deaths of women occur when they are in the womb. The acceptance of abortion is not a male issue.
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This is true… however, we are not talking about just the USA here. Abortion is largely illegal in Mexico. Mexico is greatly affected by this. So, where does that leave your argument? I thought, basically, abortion is totally illegal in Mexico except perhaps some exception in Mexico city itself.
 
Aquinas11 said:
So the solution is for women to not have children out of wedlock and heavily vet any man before marrying him to make sure he won’t bolt once the kids are born.
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So it’s up to women to make sure men will behave right?
 
Note, the title of the tread, “The Problem of Femicide in the WORLD”, not the USA, not, wherever, China, Canada but the world and in that, I think it is especially a problem in some parts of the world.

So, get your international thinking caps on!

This is not some matter for the most part, related to Domestic Violence, this has far more reaching consequences. Articles can be read and have already been posted.
 
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From what I always heard Social Justice applies to all members of society, not just women. Politicising acts of violence only serves to create greater division, which apparently seems like what the gist of the writing going on around here is about.

I liked that response stated earlier about how femicide simply refers to a crime of passion (being a new way of saying it but only applying it to women). Violence usually comes from things like lust, jealousy and envy that is certainly true.

So in order to stop violence? Well it would certainly be wise for starters to not contribute to further stigmatisation by only blaming men and neglecting to acknowledge the abuse of men. Like I said before, by politicising it any solution you form will only cause new problems.

-With the kindest regards, Jim.
 
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