Also dronald:
As I stated on the last post:
The other Bishops have the power to bind and loose (Matthew 18) but they do NOT have “the keys” so the Bishops have to stay with St. Peter (and his successors).
Think about the verse in Luke’s Gospel that I sighted (see posts 122 and 123) about Satan wanting to sift the Apostles “like wheat” dronald.
Later (after the Resurrection) they probably have Jesus words in the back of their mind.
They are likely thinking: ** “Satan wants to sift us guys like wheat but Jesus is going to rectify that through Peter.” **
This is a big deal!
In John’s Gospel (chapter 21), St. Peter says: “I am going fishing.” The Apostles reply: "We will go with you.”
Do you see the theological significance of this dronald or do you merely see a trip out on Ol’ Lake Gennesaret to pick up a few crappies (or whatever) together?
Remember John said he wrote only a few things Jesus said or did (so you can expect what he did write is NOT going to be “trivial matters”).
If this all occurred today and St. Peter said: “I am going to Starbucks” I would bet the Apostles would reply: “We are going with you.”
Also do you see any theological significance when the Risen Jesus tells the Apostles to cast the net on the side of the boat in the AM and they hit the “mother lode” in “large” fish?
All the other Apostles have to drag the net ashore because it was
so heavy. Yet when Jesus (gives Peter the grace) tells the Apostles to bring Him the fish, PETER goes and brings it BY HIMSELF!
What is St. John in his Gospel trying to tell us here?
Is St. John trying to tell us St. Peter is on anabolic steroids? No.
The official teachings are protected by God Himself!
In Bible alone Christianity, NOBODY has this type of authority Dronald. Even though this type of authority is clearly laid out in Scripture.
Now you might say: Well I don’t believe the Catholic Church possesses this authority.
That’s fine. We could deal with THAT issue on another thread.
But the point is, this Scriptural paradigm of an authoritative visible Church exists, and the Catholic Church DOES claim it, and Protestants DON’T claim this authority.
That’s the point to Adamski’s and many others questions on this thread. And there has yet to be a viable answer. And that’s because there is no answer in a Protestant church model where everyone gets to be their own pope because they have a Bible.
Totin’ and Quotin’ = The Protestant Prototype Or Model Of "The Church"
Even Luther expressed grief over this issue before he died. That was the whole point when Luther lamented that anybody who totes his Bible around
feels like their own personal interpretation is so full of the Holy Spirit, they think they proverbially have “swallowed the Holy Ghost feathers and all” (Luther quote from
Steve Ray HERE – see this. It is excellent).
. . . . [Luther] said, “but when he has heard a sermon or can read a chapter in German, makes a doctor of himself and crowns his *** (3 letter synonym for rear end) and convinces himself that he knows everything better than all who teach him:” (Walch V. 1652). “When we have heard or learned a few things about Holy Scripture, we think we are already doctors and have swallowed the Holy Ghost, feathers and all:’ (Walch V. 472). . . . “This one;’ he says, “will not hear of Baptism, that one denies the Sacrament, another puts a world between this and the last day: some teach that Christ is not God, some say this, some say that: there are about as many sects and creeds as there are heads. No yokel is so rude but when he has dreams and fancies, he thinks himself inspired by the Holy Ghost and must be a prophet.” (De Wette III, 61).
So if I were a Protestant who did not affirm the Catholic faith, the next step for me would be:
“Well let’s see. I WANT to find the true Church. I want to obey Jesus. I love Jesus. WHERE in the whole of the world does this Biblical authority paradigm even exist? Because it sure doesn’t exist in Protestantism. . . . .
. . . . . I got some looking around to do”
This is the exact reflection that brings many into the Catholic faith.
