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Church Militant:
We couldn’t have invented it because we don’t “believe” in it.
And again, there is that Holy Day of Obligation wherein you MUST go to Mass…It’s called “Ascension Thursday”.
If he didn’t resurrect what in the heck are we doing honoring His Ascension into heaven…Bodily?
Well then, that should end ALL prot criticism of the Catholic Church “inventing” Easter.
We couldn’t have invented it because we don’t “believe” in it.
And again, there is that Holy Day of Obligation wherein you MUST go to Mass…It’s called “Ascension Thursday”.
If he didn’t resurrect what in the heck are we doing honoring His Ascension into heaven…Bodily?
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CM,
That was some touching stuff. If he will only read it! And then do his homework.
P.S. Your one of the few on Catholic Answers whos posts I read and take away something each time. Especially if its a long thread if I have to skim through I only read select posters like you if I want to understand whats going on to make my own comments.
That was some touching stuff. If he will only read it! And then do his homework.
P.S. Your one of the few on Catholic Answers whos posts I read and take away something each time. Especially if its a long thread if I have to skim through I only read select posters like you if I want to understand whats going on to make my own comments.
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I’d be mad too if my parents raised me as a “Babtist”. Sweet revenge on Satan. Who was completely hornswagled (deceived) by the Crucifixion. This is his reminder.
The 3 groups that disdain the crucifix are:
- Muslims.
- Satan.
- Modern day sect protestants.
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Big difference though. Christ did not become the nature of demons/angels to save angels. Even if a demon were to place their faith in Christ, there is no atonement for demons, only humans. Therefore, faith/trust/belief makes no difference for the devil one way or the other.
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I happen to have a crucifix in my office. I think that it is ONLY anti-Roman Cathlic Protestants who disdane crucifix. Evangelical Protestants have no problem with them at all.
Michael
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Lisa4Catholics
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Xavier, shame on you:tsktsk: That is way out of line:tsktsk: I think you need to read the Bible some more because somewhere down the line you miised the point
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Lisa4Catholics
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Michael that is beause your a closet Catholic that hasn’t come out yet
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The Pamphlet:
This is VERY interesting!
I like OZZIE’s ease of gaining eternal salvation.
According to OZZIE, as I understand it:
- Earn, beg, borrow, or steal a bible (only available after 380AD) Too bad for schlucks before that and anyone who could not read after that.
2 Learn to read. - Find the ONE verse = ROM 10:13
- Think up a “sinners prayer” and recite it with meaning…ONCE.
- Have faith that this prayer will give you heaven
#1 = a work.
#2 = a work
#3 = a work
#4 = a work
#5 = Faith
So far the final score is: WORK 4 Faith alone 1.
Now,having done all this non-work work: - Tear out the ROM 10:13 verse.
- Throw the rest of the bible away. It cannot save you. Bible study on Sun. and Wed nite is completely superfluous.
- Fall into temptation and sin.
- Go straight to heaven.
**Some people will believe ANYTHING
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So, there are “Pro-Catholic” Protestants??
What in the name of heaven are they “protesting” then?
Does that make you a “no-protesting” protestant?
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Continuation of OZZIE’s “Guess the Silver Bullet verse” religion
TNT:
“BAPTISM now saves you”
“He who believes AND is baptized, shall be saved”
“Each will be JUDGED according to his works”
“Faith without works is DEAD”
“Unless a man is boirn AGAIN of WATER and the Holy Spirit he CANNOT enter the Kingdom of Heaven”
Or countless other trap door verses, and makes the innocent mistake of believing these as being literal and essential, your dead meat.
The game is over and you lose.
What this amounts to is a “trick you with the wrong verse to believe” type of game-show religion.
**The final score in this process is:
Satan 1. Bible non-Worker Worker 0.
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Out of the many thousands of verses if one should pick some trick verse like:
“BAPTISM now saves you”
“He who believes AND is baptized, shall be saved”
“Each will be JUDGED according to his works”
“Faith without works is DEAD”
“Unless a man is boirn AGAIN of WATER and the Holy Spirit he CANNOT enter the Kingdom of Heaven”
Or countless other trap door verses, and makes the innocent mistake of believing these as being literal and essential, your dead meat.
The game is over and you lose.
What this amounts to is a “trick you with the wrong verse to believe” type of game-show religion.
**The final score in this process is:
Satan 1. Bible non-Worker Worker 0.
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Catholic_Dude
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I agree with this! In the same order as you wrote them!
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Stingray
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What exactly are you objecting to? Do you disagree that it is God who does all the saving? Is it wrong to call upon the name of the Lord and be saved as the scriptures teach? Are you saying that good works, a life of faith, and going to church every sunday are what saves a person? Do you object solely because it just sounds to simple to you? If so, how do you feel when the apostles say the very same thing in scripture? Does it bother you when they are asked what one must do to be saved and the response is to believe in the Lord Jesus? Does it bother you such a simple question and response are found in the God breathed scriptures?
God bless,
Stingray
btw, I’m new here. I came over from the CARM boards. Their having some technical difficulties with the boards over there and I decided to pop in over here and see what it’s like. Looks like there aren’t too many protestant regulars from what I’ve seen so far. If that is the case, don’t you guys get tired of preaching to the choir. If you haven’t checked it out yet, you should give CARM a try once they get things running smoothly again.
God bless,
Stingray
btw, I’m new here. I came over from the CARM boards. Their having some technical difficulties with the boards over there and I decided to pop in over here and see what it’s like. Looks like there aren’t too many protestant regulars from what I’ve seen so far. If that is the case, don’t you guys get tired of preaching to the choir. If you haven’t checked it out yet, you should give CARM a try once they get things running smoothly again.
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What is CARM?We know Jesus is the one that saves you.What bothers us is that some people think by making the proclaimation they are free to sin as much as they want and since they made the proclaimation Jesus is going to save them,no repentance or anything.That is saying that you can mock God with His own words.That is false.God BlessWhat exactly are you objecting to? Do you disagree that it is God who does all the saving? Is it wrong to call upon the name of the Lord and be saved as the scriptures teach? Are you saying that good works, a life of faith, and going to church every sunday are what saves a person? Do you object solely because it just sounds to simple to you? If so, how do you feel when the apostles say the very same thing in scripture? Does it bother you when they are asked what one must do to be saved and the response is to believe in the Lord Jesus? Does it bother you such a simple question and response are found in the God breathed scriptures?
God bless,
Stingray
btw, I’m new here. I came over from the CARM boards. Their having some technical difficulties with the boards over there and I decided to pop in over here and see what it’s like. Looks like there aren’t too many protestant regulars from what I’ve seen so far. If that is the case, don’t you guys get tired of preaching to the choir. If you haven’t checked it out yet, you should give CARM a try once they get things running smoothly again.
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Church Militant,
I really enjoyed your story.
It’s people like you that I envy (in a good way), and push me to try and grow closer and closer to God.
I think you are inspirational.
God Bless,
Elizabeth
I really enjoyed your story.
It’s people like you that I envy (in a good way), and push me to try and grow closer and closer to God.
I think you are inspirational.
God Bless,
Elizabeth
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Catholic_Dude
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Quick question, whats CARM?What exactly are you objecting to? Do you disagree that it is God who does all the saving? Is it wrong to call upon the name of the Lord and be saved as the scriptures teach? Are you saying that good works, a life of faith, and going to church every sunday are what saves a person? Do you object solely because it just sounds to simple to you? If so, how do you feel when the apostles say the very same thing in scripture? Does it bother you when they are asked what one must do to be saved and the response is to believe in the Lord Jesus? Does it bother you such a simple question and response are found in the God breathed scriptures?
God bless,
Stingray
btw, I’m new here. I came over from the CARM boards. Their having some technical difficulties with the boards over there and I decided to pop in over here and see what it’s like. Looks like there aren’t too many protestant regulars from what I’ve seen so far. If that is the case, don’t you guys get tired of preaching to the choir. If you haven’t checked it out yet, you should give CARM a try once they get things running smoothly again.
First of all whats this preaching to the choir stuff? Who is the Catholic and who is the one Protesting (and at the same time by protesting recognizing the Catholic Church’s authority)?
One thing that killed me when I was at Prot churches was when they went aroung saying nothing but grace, faith, etc. When I finally read the Bible on my own I was scared to find how hard it was to get to Heaven. You have to give up everything, take up your cross, do good works, etc, or else Christ will not recognize you-“not all who say Lord Lord will enter”. There is nothing “simple” about it, being a Christian is not something you do on Sunday only, it is 24-7. It is the hardest thing to be.
The dagger for Protestants: WHO WAS THE FIRST APOSTLE TO DIE FOR HIS LORD? IT WAS STEPHEN, AND WHAT WAS HE DOING? HE WAS FEEDING THE HUNGRY!
He didnt go home to his couch and turn on ESPN and think that he had a free ride into heaven.
You are confusing a sincere act of faith on ones death bed with someone who feels that they have a green card to do whatever they want AFTER being “saved”.
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hello. CARM is the Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry. They can be found at carm.org/index.html Their boards are great. I spend a lot of my time on the Catholic board. There are many Catholic regulars there and we have some really good discussions. Right now the Catholic board is down, but there is an alternate board available and the regular board should be up soon. You should check it out sometime. As to your questions, I’ve never met any protestant who taught that once one is saved they can sin all they want to. It is a mischaracterization of protestants and as you can see such a statement was not made in the pamphlet the original poster provided. Protestants teach that we are saved by grace through faith for good works. This teaching can be found in the book of Ephesians. We are not saved by good works, but rather for them. We do good works because we are saved. Furthermore, we don’t teach that one should not repent. The scriptures teach that one should repent and believe. We agree with this. There is no mockery.
God bless,
Stingray
God bless,
Stingray
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WELCOME TO THE ROLLS ROYCE VERSION OF CARM!What exactly are you objecting to? Do you disagree that it is God who does all the saving? Is it wrong to call upon the name of the Lord and be saved as the scriptures teach? Are you saying that good works, a life of faith, and going to church every sunday are what saves a person? Do you object solely because it just sounds to simple to you? If so, how do you feel when the apostles say the very same thing in scripture? Does it bother you when they are asked what one must do to be saved and the response is to believe in the Lord Jesus? Does it bother you such a simple question and response are found in the God breathed scriptures?
btw, I’m new here. I came over from the CARM boards. Their having some technical difficulties with the boards over there and I decided to pop in over here and see what it’s like. Looks like there aren’t too many protestant regulars from what I’ve seen so far. If that is the case, don’t you guys get tired of preaching to the choir. If you haven’t checked it out yet, you should give CARM a try once they get things running smoothly again.Code:God bless, Stingray :)
We don’t get “flat tires”.
There are quite a few Prot’s who come here. The trolls get blown out fast but the honest seeker-debaters are kept for dessert.
It is not “FAITH ALONE” that brings final salvation.
Are you ready?
**It is the OBEDIENCE of Faith that brings final salvation.
** That makes 2 things essential:
1. DIVINE FAITH (aka belief, if you insist)
2. OBEDIENCE TO THAT DIVINE FAITH.
So, how far apart are we now?
For some reason I like you already. No idea why. I usually just munch on prot’s an spit out the seeds.
Mabe I sniff a Catholic sense…James Whiteism not withstanding. So, yur safe for now. If I find out you have no sense of humor, or ignore questions, yur fish food.
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What I have always been told is that a crucifix is not really ‘wrong’ so to say but the protestant theory was that it’s better to just use a cross because Jesus is no longer on it and it is a symbol or his gift. I now have a fairly large blessed crucifix on the wall over my computer and a nice bottle of holy water here.
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Funny thing. Satan detests both of your sacramentals They are the primary elements of exorcisms.
Satan rues the day he saw Christ on the Cross. Thought he won.
I like to remind him of how he let himself be decieved.
Again, St Paul preaches “Christ and Him Crucified”…foolishness to the gentiles.
We simply do the same.
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