The Purpose of Marriage

[Brendan_64]

In the world outside internet forums, especially where there are tensions between communities, any religion which wants to peacefully co-exist with others and with the wider world must in some sense recognize that it doesn’t have exclusive ownership of the truth. Imho

Nobody ‘owns’ the Truth. All Truth comes from Our Lord, it cannot come from any other source. If there are some reflections of truth in other religions, then that too has come from Our Lord. Christ set up His Church on Earth to be a beacon of light to the world, and it is only in that Church that the fullness of Truth resides. How can the fullness of Truth reside outside of that Church?

Yes we recognise and appreciate the reflections of truth that exist in other religions, but we do so knowing that that it is only in Christ’s Church on Earth that the fullness of Truth resides.

 

[ThinkingSapien]

Wow, it’s been a while since marriage has been discussed. I think the word came up 15 messages ago, but that seems to be about it.

 

[inocente]

Nobody ‘owns’ the Truth. All Truth comes from Our Lord, it cannot come from any other source. If there are some reflections of truth in other religions, then that too has come from Our Lord. Christ set up His Church on Earth to be a beacon of light to the world, and it is only in that Church that the fullness of Truth resides. How can the fullness of Truth reside outside of that Church?

Yes we recognise and appreciate the reflections of truth that exist in other religions, but we do so knowing that that it is only in Christ’s Church on Earth that the fullness of Truth resides.

Then it would appear we’re agreed that other religions have a smattering of ability to discern the truth.

I guess if we’re all created in the image and likeness of God then it stands to reason that God cuts none of us off from Him.

 

[inocente]

Wow, it’s been a while since marriage has been discussed. I think the word came up 15 messages ago, but that seems to be about it.

Au contraire monsieur pussycat, if holy books are open to interpretation then so is the putative single purpose of religious marriages.

 

[ThinkingSapien]

Au contraire monsieur pussycat, if holy books are open to interpretation then so is the putative single purpose of religious marriages.

I stand corrected.

Thank you, Sir.

 

[inocente]

I stand corrected.

Thank you, Sir.

You are a gentleman and a scholar sir.

 

[Brendan_64]

Then it would appear we’re agreed that other religions have a smattering of ability to discern the truth.

To claim that all religions can discern what is truth and what isn’t would mean that all religions are true.

I guess if we’re all created in the image and likeness of God then it stands to reason that God cuts none of us off from Him.

Christ redeemed all men through his sacrifice on Calvary. The door is open to all who choose to enter.

 

[josh987654321]

Wow, it’s been a while since marriage has been discussed. I think the word came up 15 messages ago, but that seems to be about it.

Yea, my apologies for that.

Au contraire monsieur pussycat, if holy books are open to interpretation then so is the putative single purpose of religious marriages.

True, may I ask what your interpretation of the purpose of marriage is?

God Bless

Thank you for reading
Josh

 

[mek42]

Thank you mek42, It’s okay though, I don’t think they are hammering on me. I know that is certainly not their intention if it looks that way, I think they are just trying to express their view, in which we can learn from one another.

God Bless

Thank you for reading
Josh

You’re welcome.

Back on topic, can there be agreement that at least part of the purpose of marriage is to provide protection for children?

 

[josh987654321]

You’re welcome.

Back on topic, can there be agreement that at least part of the purpose of marriage is to provide protection for children?

Yea, I agree with that.

So to care and raise Children? (as you said mek, not saying it’s the only purpose of marriage as there are some who don’t have children) and do you think it makes a difference whether it’s done by biological parents or not?

God Bless

Thank you for reading
Josh

 

[josh987654321]

Would people agree with me that another part of the purpose of marriage would be compatibility and complementarity? such as the compatiblity and complementarity on an emotional (mental) level (whether these people gel so to speak) that leads onto an emotionally physical level (such as sexual intimacy)?

God Bless

Thank you for reading
Josh

 

[josh987654321]

My understanding of the purpose of marriage is exactly what Jesus said in the Gospels Matthew 19 and Mark 10.

Matthew 19:4-6

4 Jesus answered, “Don’t you know that in the beginning the Creator made a man and a woman? 5 That’s why a man leaves his father and mother and gets married. He becomes like one person with his wife. 6 Then they are no longer two people, but one. And no one should separate a couple that God has joined together.”

Mark 10:6-9

**6 But in the beginning God made a man and a woman. 7 That’s why a man leaves his father and mother and gets married. 8 He becomes like one person with his wife. Then they are no longer two people, but one. 9 And no one should separate a couple that God has joined together." **

To me, this makes absolute and perfect sense, I don’t know how people could view marriage any other way.

God Bless

Thank you for reading
Josh

 

[inocente]

To claim that all religions can discern what is truth and what isn’t would mean that all religions are true.

We already agreed that Nostra Aetate says other religions “nonetheless often reflect a ray of that Truth which enlightens all men”. Most of those religions predate the Church and so discerned those rays without the Church’s assistance.

The only alternative to claiming that all long-term religions contain some truth is to claim that all religions except your own are completely and totally false. It would be a brave Pope who proclaimed that from St Peters, it would certainly be wise to have evacuated Catholics from a number of countries before doing so.

Christ redeemed all men through his sacrifice on Calvary. The door is open to all who choose to enter.

I don’t think Jesus is concerned about lapel pins. Love isn’t about rule books. For instance, here’s an Irish Celtic blessing sung by an American Sikh as a mantra for meditation.

Snatam Kaur - May the longtime sun shine upon you / All love surround you / And the pure, pure light within you / Guide your way on

 

[inocente]

True, may I ask what your interpretation of the purpose of marriage is?

For me personally, the traditional vows. To have and to hold from this day forward, for better for worse, for richer for poorer, in sickness and in health, to love and to cherish, till death parts us.

 

[tonyrey]

My understanding of the purpose of marriage is exactly what Jesus said in the Gospels Matthew 19 and Mark 10.

                                             [**Matthew 19:4-6**](http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2019:1-12&version=CEV)

4 Jesus answered, “Don’t you know that in the beginning the Creator made a man and a woman? 5 That’s why a man leaves his father and mother and gets married. He becomes like one person with his wife. 6 Then they are no longer two people, but one. And no one should separate a couple that God has joined together.”

Mark 10:6-9

**6 But in the beginning God made a man and a woman. 7 That’s why a man leaves his father and mother and gets married. 8 He becomes like one person with his wife. Then they are no longer two people, but one. 9 And no one should separate a couple that God has joined together." **
To me, this makes absolute and perfect sense, I don’t know how people could view marriage any other way.

Anyone who thinks marriage is not intended by God solely for a man and a woman is certainly not a genuine Christian, Jew or Muslim.

 

[josh987654321]

For me personally, the traditional vows. To have and to hold from this day forward, for better for worse, for richer for poorer, in sickness and in health, to love and to cherish, till death parts us.

I agree with that, however if it’s only that, than I don’t see what separates it from a friendship? from the love of Agape shared between friends.

God Bless

Thank you for reading
Josh

 

[inocente]

Anyone who thinks marriage is not intended by God solely for a man and a woman is certainly not a genuine Christian, Jew or Muslim.

Person A: “No Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge.”
Person B: “I am Scottish, and I put sugar on my porridge.”
Person A: “Then you are not a true Scotsman.”

 

[inocente]

I agree with that, however if it’s only that, than I don’t see what separates it from a friendship? from the love of Agape shared between friends.

Tell your friends you want “to have and to hold” them and see what happens.

 

[Brendan_64]

Anyone who thinks marriage is not intended by God solely for a man and a woman is certainly not a genuine Christian, Jew or Muslim.

That’s too harsh in my opinion. They may have a faulty understanding of certain doctrines, but that does not, in itself, mean they are not genuine Christians, Jews or Muslims.

 

[Brendan_64]

We already agreed that Nostra Aetate says other religions “nonetheless often reflect a ray of that Truth which enlightens all men”. Most of those religions predate the Church and so discerned those rays without the Church’s assistance.

The source of the light is God who set up His Church on Earth to spread the Word and shine light into the darkness. That does not in any way mean that before the Church there was no light at all.