The Quran and Jesus’ Crucifixion

[mhmtas63]

Jesus did die on the Cross and there were many witnesses to that. You seem to take it as Gospel that there were witnesses to Muhammad; but not to the Crucifixion? If Jesus was merely a prophet; why wouldn’t He immediately correct Thomas about Him only being a prophet; not God? And your quoting the Psalmist only proves my point. Jesus said He came from heaven. Only God could come from heaven. As for a God dying on the Cross: Are you saying God couldn’t do anything He wanted to in order save those He loves? Your defense of the erroneous Quranic assertions is weak and confused.

You say God can do what wish. So God wished to kill himself and did! Can a god kill other god? Or can/do God kill himself? (We suppose that Jesus is God and wished to kill himself!)

 

[mhmtas63]

The quran has been written by other people

Yeah. All books were writen by people!

 

[mhmtas63]

It is absolutely clear to all those who understand the Word of God and have no predetermined agenda to deny the Divinity of Christ.

If Jesus was god so suppose that Jesus got married! Would childs be god-man or man-god also?

 

[De_Maria]

If Jesus was god …

Jesus is God. No ifs about it.

 

[mhmtas63]

You misunderstand this verse. Jesus is not saying, “I am not the Son of God”. He is saying, “If you can be called sons of God, how much more I am who came from heaven.”

Do any body emerge from land. I mean all souls come from heavens.

Heaven is a crature place. God is not in Heavens. Ofcourse there are some statements as is God has a hand or a footing or a throne which God stand on. But all these are metaphors and it is your problem to interprete those metaphors as literal. Every strange ideas arise in that way are the strained interpretations. As I intendly state that God is always out of time and space.

 

[De_Maria]

You say God can do what wish. So God wished to kill himself and did! Can a god kill other god? Or can/do God kill himself? (We suppose that Jesus is God and wished to kill himself!)

Let’s see…

Death is a part of human life.
But death only affects the mortal body.
The spirit is not affected.
When a man dies, his spirit lives although his body dies.

God is Spirit.

In order for God to die, He prepared for Himself a mortal body.
He permitted the body to die, but He continued to live, because spirits don’t die.

Why did God die? In order to bring about the salvation of the world.

Hebrews 9:15 And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance. 16 For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator. 17 For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.

 

[De_Maria]

Do any body emerge from land. I mean all souls come from heavens.

Heaven is a crature place. God is not in Heavens. Ofcourse there are some statements as is God has a hand or a footing or a throne which God stand on. But all these are metaphors and it is your problem to interprete those metaphors as literal. Every strange ideas arise in that way are the strained interpretations.

I don’t know what you’re trying to say.

As I intendly state that God is always out of time and space.

And we believe that God is immanent and transcendent. We believe that time and space do not affect God, therefore, He is everywhere in time and space and beyond.

 

[Michael16]

Amen, De_Maria. Good rebuttal. I’ll let that stand in place of my own rebuttal.