The Qur'an and Jesus on the Cross

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morning_star777 said:
my dear brother,ur question to our muslim fellows is really perfect.i also agree with dolphinlove:).our muslim fellows are reading a new type of bible.the islamic version of bible written by" ihavent Got Aclue";).realy funny&unique islamic bible!!holy lord jesus bless you my brother.:amen:
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You are all enjoying and celebrating your false victory and false happiness. Bible is the same as you people are selling to the world. Every one has got a copy and now they are all after you to prove the difficult book.

But then you start accusing as if the Muslims have got a different bible. That is a false claim. Your happiness will not last long.
 
planten said:
You are all enjoying and celebrating your false victory and false happiness. Bible is the same as you people are selling to the world. Every one has got a copy and now they are all after you to prove the difficult book.

But then you start accusing as if the Muslims have got a different bible. That is a false claim. Your happiness will not last long.
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so what is the reall truth&what is the true happiness?
 
planten said:
Swariffin, it appears that you have no knowledge of the christianity.
come on dear planten.don’t give silly comments!brother swariffin is a very good christian&he knows alot of christianity.but if you still think so then teach him or all of us the true christianity.
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planten said:
You can also jump in to prove your point about the body of Jesus being pearced. When was it done? How was it done? You have no clue.
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Its you that has no clue, i pointed out the passages to you, and yet you fail to show me where Jesus was taken off the cross! He was NOT taken down BEFORE the spear went into him.
 
dolphinlove said:
Its you that has no clue, i pointed out the passages to you, and yet you fail to show me where Jesus was taken off the cross! He was NOT taken down BEFORE the spear went into him.
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I am sure planten is reciting certain prayers and doing spells to modify that narrative in John’s Gospel. :rolleyes:
 
planten said:
Swariffin, it appears that you have no knowledge of the christianity. I do not know what religon you belong. Please ask the christian friends when was the body of Jesus pearced by the soldier? When he was still on the cross or when he was taken down and layed on the ground? They will decide and tell us both. Please ask friends. Or you post the necessary information from the bible yourself to prove your point.
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John 19:28-39. Read that carefully my dear friend, if you have a true bible, then tell me where do you get the idea that Jesus was pearched while laying on the ground. If you got a wrong bible, then I won’t ask you any further. No need to discuss wrong bible, I believe.

After so many things I wrote, you still don’t know my true religion? That is why you should open your mind more objectively. To shorten your guess list, I am not Muslim nor Ahmadian.
 
swariffin said:
John 19:28-39. Read that carefully my dear friend, if you have a true bible, then tell me where do you get the idea that Jesus was pearched while laying on the ground. If you got a wrong bible, then I won’t ask you any further. No need to discuss wrong bible, I believe.

After so many things I wrote, you still don’t know my true religion? That is why you should open your mind more objectively. To shorten your guess list, I am not Muslim nor Ahmadian.
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** Thank you. I will check John Ch. 19 and let you know. Thank you again.**
 
The matter being discussed is whether the soldier pierced the body of Jesus while he was still on the cross or he did it when the body was brought down from the cross. Can you prove any one these two things? What do you support? Give reasons by the verses please. I feel that you are wrong.
 
planten said:
The matter being discussed is whether the soldier pierced the body of Jesus while he was still on the cross or he did it when the body was brought down from the cross. Can you prove any one these two things? What do you support? Give reasons by the verses please. I feel that you are wrong.
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John 19:31-37
Then the Jews (because it was the parasceve), that the bodies might not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day (for that was a great sabbath day), besought Pilate that their legs might be broken: and that they might be taken away. The soldiers therefore came: and they broke the legs of the first, and of the other that was crucified with him. But after they were come to Jesus, when they saw that he was already dead, they did not break his legs. But one of the soldiers with a spear opened his side: and immediately there came out blood and water. And he that saw it hath given testimony: and his testimony is true. And he knoweth that he saith true: that you also may believe. For these things were done that the scripture might be fulfilled: You shall not break a bone of him. And again another scripture saith: They shall look on him whom they pierced.

Nothing in the text to support your argument that Jesus’ body had already been deposited from the cross when a soldier pierced His side. The soldiers broke the legs of the other two crucified men while they were still on the cross, and one of them pierced Jesus’ side instead of breaking His legs when Jesus was still on the cross.
 
Angelos said:
John 19:31-37
Then the Jews (because it was the parasceve), that the bodies might not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day (for that was a great sabbath day), besought Pilate that their legs might be broken: and that they might be taken away. The soldiers therefore came: and they broke the legs of the first, and of the other that was crucified with him. But after they were come to Jesus, when they saw that he was already dead, they did not break his legs. But one of the soldiers with a spear opened his side: and immediately there came out blood and water. And he that saw it hath given testimony: and his testimony is true. And he knoweth that he saith true: that you also may believe. For these things were done that the scripture might be fulfilled: You shall not break a bone of him. And again another scripture saith: They shall look on him whom they pierced.

Nothing in the text to support your argument that Jesus’ body had already been deposited from the cross when a soldier pierced His side. The soldiers broke the legs of the other two crucified men while they were still on the cross, and one of them pierced Jesus’ side instead of breaking His legs when Jesus was still on the cross.
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Lol i wonder how many more times we are going to have to post this passage!
 
planten said:
You love me (one). I love you all brothers and sisters. That is true.
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That is correct, my dear Friend, we love you regardless who you are, regardless what religion you belong to and regardless where you come from. I do believe that you are not a kind of those guys who send bad image about Islam. I can see myself that you are doing your best to promote the goodness of Islam. For your effort, in the name of God I believe, I thank you very much from the bottom of my heart.
 
planten said:
You love me (one). I love you all brothers and sisters. That is true.
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dear brother planten:),believe it or not i also love&respect u because u are a reall moderate person(muslim).i told many time that i saw few moderate muslim&honestly speaking u are one of the best in them:).yes it is true that we argue many times but its different thing.but personaly i realy like&respect you:),its true.God bless you brother:).
 
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