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blackforest
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Thank goodness that our own Catechism disagrees!
Who is getting threatened and how? I see advocates putting consumer pressure on organizations. It happens all the time. These private corporations may respond or ignore them. Enough consumer pressure may well warrant a response, as that’s how the free market works.
Here I might agree, as cynical as it sounds. Advocacy groups of all stripes and colors will amplify their targeted problem in order to keep donor dollars coming in and justify their raison d’etre. I see this every time the NRA claims that someone is “coming for our guns.” I see if every time NARAL gives states with the most permissive abortion laws a grade of “C.”
@JimG do you agree with this? If so, are you against the Civil Rights Act? Is there an alternative you’d propose to address racism? Or should things have remained status quo?
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stuartbrianhenlis
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A Catholic publication printing homophobic claptrap? What happened to Christian charity and brotherhood?
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JSRG
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Tis_Bearself
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When the publication is called Crisis Magazine, it needs to keep manufacturing crises to live up to its name.
Not that lots of other publications don’t also rely on the same for their bread and butter.
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Peeps
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Interesting.
When I was coming of age in the 1970s, the watchword was “What happens in your bedroom is private, between you and whoever you love.”
Now the watchword is, “Come out, come out, wherever you are, and make sure EVERYONE knows what happens in your bedroom and who is in that bed with you.”
I kinda like the 1970s watchword better. Sexuality should not be a factor in staffing companies. The main question should be, “Can you do the job well?” If so, you’re hired, if not, you’re not hired.
Yes, diversity is a good thing–in churches, in neighborhoods, in clubs and organizations, in sports, in social settings, etc. But companies–they are not there to provide for our social development–they are there to produce a product. Whether the “product” is healthcare, legal aid, cars, pet rocks, music, new roads, etc.–it doesn’t matter who actually produces the product, but whether they produce a good, safe product. THAT should be a company’s concern, not “diversity.”
When I’m working in my hospital lab, I don’t care about what my co-workers are doing outside the lab. All I care about is do they know what they are doing and whether they do it fast and accurately enough to finish the daily workload. At this point in history, during our breaks, no one is talking anyway–almost everyone is on their phone (except me–I’m an old lady watching HGTV or reading! My flip phone doesn’t have anything to watch).
When I was coming of age in the 1970s, the watchword was “What happens in your bedroom is private, between you and whoever you love.”
Now the watchword is, “Come out, come out, wherever you are, and make sure EVERYONE knows what happens in your bedroom and who is in that bed with you.”
I kinda like the 1970s watchword better. Sexuality should not be a factor in staffing companies. The main question should be, “Can you do the job well?” If so, you’re hired, if not, you’re not hired.
Yes, diversity is a good thing–in churches, in neighborhoods, in clubs and organizations, in sports, in social settings, etc. But companies–they are not there to provide for our social development–they are there to produce a product. Whether the “product” is healthcare, legal aid, cars, pet rocks, music, new roads, etc.–it doesn’t matter who actually produces the product, but whether they produce a good, safe product. THAT should be a company’s concern, not “diversity.”
When I’m working in my hospital lab, I don’t care about what my co-workers are doing outside the lab. All I care about is do they know what they are doing and whether they do it fast and accurately enough to finish the daily workload. At this point in history, during our breaks, no one is talking anyway–almost everyone is on their phone (except me–I’m an old lady watching HGTV or reading! My flip phone doesn’t have anything to watch).
blackforest
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Compelling enough.
I’ve long argued that that law is not a metric for the Right Thing. That our Catechism denounces discrimination against LGBTQ but our own federal government needs to catch up is quite revealing.
I’ve long argued that that law is not a metric for the Right Thing. That our Catechism denounces discrimination against LGBTQ but our own federal government needs to catch up is quite revealing.
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JimG
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The catechism states that unjust discrimination must be avoided. Yet it does not elaborate on this.
The Church does not ordain women, does not accept those with fixed homosexual orientation as candidates for the priesthood, opposes gender identity theory, promotes traditional marriage and opposes same sex marriage. It’s priests do not officiate same sex marriage. It does not encourage children to transition to the opposite sex. It opposes contraception and IVF. No doubt the diversity police will one day come calling.
The Church does not ordain women, does not accept those with fixed homosexual orientation as candidates for the priesthood, opposes gender identity theory, promotes traditional marriage and opposes same sex marriage. It’s priests do not officiate same sex marriage. It does not encourage children to transition to the opposite sex. It opposes contraception and IVF. No doubt the diversity police will one day come calling.
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poche
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I can still remember when being Catholic was compared to being black in the south and being told that as a ‘black’ I would not be allowed to go skating with the rest of the class. When they said, ‘black person’ a more colloquial expression was used that would be inappropriate on this forum.
Tis_Bearself
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The KKK did indeed colloquially have “Katholic” as one of the K’s it opposed, along with not very nice terms for the other two groups it opposed as the other two K’s.
I’m sorry you went through that discrimination.
I’m sorry you went through that discrimination.
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EndTimes
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Homophobic is baloney code originating from the Activist HomoSexual Community
It translates as Phobia of Homo(sexual)s …
People do not fear homosexuals…
Active homosexuality is a very grave sin -
which in turn never seems to hit the light of day
from those who’ve been conditioned to toss out, “Homophobic”
Yes we love the Sinner and Hate the Sin
And are not required to speak of all sins,
when the singular topic is homosexuality / LGBTQism
Those who solely focus upon RAINBOW-ISM better wake up
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Thorolfr
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The Greek word phobos from which the phobia in homophobia is derived doesn’t only mean fear. It can also just mean a strong dislike or aversion to something. And some people do seem to have a strong dislike of homosexuality and might therefore be called homophobic.stuartbrianhenlis:
Homophobic is baloney code originating from the Activist HomoSexual Community
It translates as Phobia of Homo(sexual)s …
People do not fear homosexuals…
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EndTimes
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In common parlance and in long lists of Phobias - Phobia means Fear - period
homo-phobia gets tossed when some are reminded of Catholic Church Teachings
in failed attempts to have others never bring up what some reject anyways.
As with other baloney labelling tactics - ‘homophobia’ has lost its sting…
Love the Sinner… Hate the Sin…
blackforest
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Did you read the article? This guy is actually complaining about actions taken to love others, i.e. fight for non-discrimination.
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JimG
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David Carlin’s complaint is similar but from a different angle:
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EndTimes
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Exactly.
Those who peddle that false baloney - could be construed by some as being aligned with Satan
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Richard_White
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I agree with everything you have said here. However, I have begun to realize over time that the reason that even companies want to have this diversity is because they believe that having people of diverse types and backgrounds will allow them to develop better products. This is because people will be coming to the table with more varied experiences and the company will, overall, have the opportunity to be more well-rounded in its output. It’s honestly the same with other institutions that pursue diversity - universities, hospitals, churches, etc. as you alluded to. The more diverse its ranks, the more well-rounded it will be. I believe that all of this is true.
May God bless you all!
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Thorolfr
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I don’t know hardly anyone who has ever told me what happens in their bedroom. Even my gay friends don’t usually talk about that. As for who is in bed with them, it’s usually pretty easy to guess who that might be without them having to tell me. I assume that it’s the person they tell me is their spouse or their partner or their boyfriend or girlfriend. If someone is married, they never tell me, “I was in bed last night with my wife.” But I assume that they might have been. If a gay friend tells me he has a new boyfriend, I assume that he might have been in bed with him recently, but these friends don’t usually say to me, “I was in bed with my boyfriend last night.”
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EndTimes
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Diversity… is code for The Wide Path…
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JimG
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If you have a workforce of people assembling smartphones, it doesn’t matter how diverse they are, just so they know how to do this particular assembly the same way.
If you have a diverse number of barista’s making coffee, the important thing is that they all make the coffee in the same exact manner.
f you have a diversity among students in any particular discipline, diversity doesn’t male any difference as long as they can master the same subject matter.
If you have a number or diocesan priests, diversity doesn’t matter as long as they are not heterodox on theology or canon law. Diversity in those areas would be harmful.
If you have a diverse number of barista’s making coffee, the important thing is that they all make the coffee in the same exact manner.
f you have a diversity among students in any particular discipline, diversity doesn’t male any difference as long as they can master the same subject matter.
If you have a number or diocesan priests, diversity doesn’t matter as long as they are not heterodox on theology or canon law. Diversity in those areas would be harmful.
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