The Real Value of Work

[Mystic_Banana]

And here is part two: a mentality of not having to work too much. I got news: the corporate slaves who seem to be detested in some circles…work just as much. On salary. No OT pay. At least the wage worker working 60 hours per week is paid for every hour…

Good point! T&Cs make a difference. And being a prison guard is obviously a worthwhile job you can feel proud for - as opposed to (the recently discussed) cold call harassment jobs that waste people’s lives. Sad thing is, I wonder how many people just end up getting essentially forced to do these negative impact jobs by job centres to get them off the dole?

More misery in the U.K. - the unemployed are now required to apply for so many jobs a day. Fill up those prison jobs in no time? Think again. It just means job applications are clogged by people applying to random jobs they aren’t qualified for to fulfil their quota. The only winner is some overpaid exec somewhere pointing at a graph indicating job application increases nationally

 

[ConfusedLucy]

Good point! T&Cs make a difference. And being a prison guard is obviously a worthwhile job you can feel proud for - as opposed to (the recently discussed) cold call harassment jobs that waste people’s lives. Sad thing is, I wonder how many people just end up getting essentially forced to do these negative impact jobs by job centres to get them off the dole?

More misery in the U.K. - the unemployed are now required to apply for so many jobs a day. Fill up those prison jobs in no time? Think again. It just means job applications are clogged by people applying to random jobs they aren’t qualified for to fulfil their quota. The only winner is some overpaid exec somewhere pointing at a graph indicating job application increases nationally

I certainly wouldn’t judge the individuals in those jobs for that very reason. Your post resonates as we had interviews recently where I work and we had an interviewee had such bad VI he couldn’t even use the lift on his own, amongst other issues and had been brought to the interview by a carer. He’d obviously been found “fit for work” and was being made to apply for unsuitable jobs. I don’t get it, there are more people than jobs these days so why are we bullying the sick and disabled into unsuitable jobs? Why do we pressure mothers of small children to go back to work? We don’t have a labour shortage.

I don’t think anyone even knows what work is for anymore.

 

[ShrodingersCat]

I’m in full time-education. But I also work. I would expect my kids to do this too.

But not if you were just finishing your bachelor’s perhaps? Or if you did a masters straight away afterwards. That could easily take you to 23. If you live near uni you might only have a summer job. At least, that was how I got through uni.

Fair play doing full time study and working. Part time masters and working nearly killed me

 

[AdamP88]

But not if you were just finishing your bachelor’s perhaps? Or if you did a masters straight away afterwards. That could easily take you to 23. If you live near uni you might only have a summer job. At least, that was how I got through uni.

Fair play doing full time study and working. Part time masters and working nearly killed me

I’m doing a bachelor’s degree now. I might not expect them to do it if they were studying something like Medicine or Law, which probably require extra hours of study just to stay afloat.

I don’t find it that taxing to work and study. Yeah, around the times I have teaching placements it can be a pain. But my motto is “whatever doesn’t kill you makes you stronger”.

 

[Mystic_Banana]

“whatever doesn’t kill you makes you stronger”.

:tsktsk:

Which is Nietsche! And not really true, regardless of what the evolutionists say - there are plenty of debilitating medical conditions which don’t kill you, and many a moral trap which destroys your soul without killing you…

and I doubt those coldcall pits are that good for you either!

I’d stick with the Chesterton!

Ahem over vigilante

 

[Mystic_Banana]

I certainly wouldn’t judge the individuals in those jobs for that very reason. Your post resonates as we had interviews recently where I work and we had an interviewee had such bad VI he couldn’t even use the lift on his own, amongst other issues and had been brought to the interview by a carer. He’d obviously been found “fit for work” and was being made to apply for unsuitable jobs. I don’t get it, there are more people than jobs these days so why are we bullying the sick and disabled into unsuitable jobs? Why do we pressure mothers of small children to go back to work? We don’t have a labour shortage.

That’s why I took back my statement about cold callers… difficult to bear it in mind when they’re hassling you though!!!

I don’t think anyone even knows what work is for anymore.

Nope. It’s like the people in charge are playing games… which indicates the way to get to the top is by playing it like a game. But work culture seems to be getting more corrupt year on year. It’s like the noughties recesssion taught us nothing but that being a parasite works, no matter how much you take from the host

Sad thing is - we’re not immune from it all falling to pieces. Heck, If anything the silly game playing seems to thrive despite (or maybe because of?) the economic failures that seem to be caused by it