The Reception of Sacraments

[Thomas48]

In the Syro Malabar Catholic tradition, at the time of an infants Mamodisa (Baptism), the child also receives the sacraments of Holy Communion and Holy Confirmation. All three are given at once to make sure the child lives and observes a Christian life. Is this concept of bestowing three sacraments at once the norm in the other Eastern Churches as well?

 

[Deep_Roots]

Yes. In the Orthodox Churches this is the practice.

And it is a better practice.

 

[SyroMalankara]

It is the same practice of all three Mysteries given at once in the Malankara Catholic Church - although, due to unexplained, indefensible very modern latinization, the child is not given Eucharist again until some made-up “age of reason” (probably to imitate the Latins and play dress up).

 

[Per_Crucem]

It is the same practice of all three Mysteries given at once in the Malankara Catholic Church - although, due to unexplained, indefensible very modern latinization, the child is not given Eucharist again until some made-up “age of reason” (probably to imitate the Latins and play dress up).

As I understand it, all 22 of the other sui iuris churches practice this.

It should be noted, too, that even though the Latin church doesn’t administer all 3 sacraments at the same time, a child who is chrismated in one of the 22 eastern churches has a right to receive the Eucharist in a Latin parish.

 

[malphono]

As I understand it, all 22 of the other sui iuris churches practice this.

It should be noted, too, that even though the Latin church doesn’t administer all 3 sacraments at the same time, a child who is chrismated in one of the 22 eastern churches has a right to receive the Eucharist in a Latin parish.

Perhaps all the Byzantines, but no, it’s not “all” Churches. The Maronites, for example, unfortunately do not commune infants. The “first communion” latinization bit holds fast. I believe the same is true of the Chaldeans (Rony, corect me if I’m wrong). Not sure about the Syriac CC, the Armenian CC or the Coptic or Ethiopian CCs.

 

[shlomo3amroo7]

Perhaps all the Byzantines, but no, it’s not “all” Churches. The Maronites, for example, unfortunately do not commune infants. The “first communion” latinization bit holds fast. I believe the same is true of the Chaldeans (Rony, corect me if I’m wrong). Not sure about the Syriac CC, the Armenian CC or the Coptic or Ethiopian CCs.

In Australia, the Syriac CC does not give the Eucharist to a little Child during baptism. However, if one requested it from the Priest, he would be more than happy to commune the Child with the proper liturgical prayers.

 

[ronyodish]

Perhaps all the Byzantines, but no, it’s not “all” Churches. The Maronites, for example, unfortunately do not commune infants. The “first communion” latinization bit holds fast. I believe the same is true of the Chaldeans (Rony, corect me if I’m wrong). Not sure about the Syriac CC, the Armenian CC or the Coptic or Ethiopian CCs.

malphono,

The current practice among the Chaldeans continues to be as you stated, that is, the children are not communed during their infancy at baptism, but rather, later during their elementary ages at the first communion ceremonial.

God bless,

Rony

 

[ronyodish]

In the Syro Malabar Catholic tradition, at the time of an infants Mamodisa (Baptism), the child also receives the sacraments of Holy Communion and Holy Confirmation. All three are given at once to make sure the child lives and observes a Christian life. Is this concept of bestowing three sacraments at once the norm in the other Eastern Churches as well?

Thomas,

It’s good to see that you continue to observe this ancient practice. We, unfortunately, have abandoned the practice, but we may hope to have it restored in the future, if and when, the Chaldean and Assyrian Churches reunite as one Church in the Catholic Communion of Churches.

God bless,

Rony

 

[SyroMalankara]

As I understand it, all 22 of the other sui iuris churches practice this.

It should be noted, too, that even though the Latin church doesn’t administer all 3 sacraments at the same time, a child who is chrismated in one of the 22 eastern churches has a right to receive the Eucharist in a Latin parish.

We are well aware, and have our infants regularly commune at the Latin, Melkite, Ukrainian, etc parishes, where they are welcome as full members of the Body. In addition, because of the agreements between the Syriac Orthodox Church and the Catholic Church, our children are welcome to commune at the Syriac Orthodox parish, but won’t be communed by our own priests who baptized, confirmed, and gave 1st Eucharist.

 

[Per_Crucem]

We are well aware, and have our infants regularly commune at the Latin, Melkite, Ukrainian, etc parishes, where they are welcome as full members of the Body. In addition, because of the agreements between the Syriac Orthodox Church and the Catholic Church, our children are welcome to commune at the Syriac Orthodox parish, but won’t be communed by our own priests who baptized, confirmed, and gave 1st Eucharist.

It’s odd, to say the least. We are rightly offput by Baptists who argue against our practice of infant baptism. Yet we then turn and make the same arguments on communion.

 

[SyroMalankara]

It’s odd, to say the least. We are rightly offput by Baptists who argue against our practice of infant baptism. Yet we then turn and make the same arguments on communion.

You are in good company on this line of thinking - Very Rev. Archimandrite Robert Taft said the same statement.

 

[Aramis]

In the Syro Malabar Catholic tradition, at the time of an infants Mamodisa (Baptism), the child also receives the sacraments of Holy Communion and Holy Confirmation. All three are given at once to make sure the child lives and observes a Christian life. Is this concept of bestowing three sacraments at once the norm in the other Eastern Churches as well?

It’s the official norm for all Byzantine Rite Churches, tho’ there has been a period where many of the Catholic ones delayed communion and/or chrismation (as separate from baptism) until about age 8-12…