The Red Pill: How radical feminism is demeaning to men

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As Rorschach would say, “No compromise, even in the face of Armageddon.” Perhaps I should get some black and white calling cards. :cool:

If I am to be ruled, I want to be ruled by men worthy of my allegiance.

So this means no women would be included in the ruling “elite”.
 

I was going by what I’ve read via the redpill/manosphere – the term AWALT (all women are like that)-- women cannot be trusted. This is why his use of just the word men caught my eye.
 
Try reading some ROK. In between the articles discussing toxic femininity, you can find plenty of articles about fitness, style, having interesting hobbies and being a better conversationalist. How the heck is telling men to better themselves in order to be more attractive entitlement? That is the exact opposite. At any rate it sure beats the advice my father gave me about just being myself. That comment was addressed to TheAmazingGrace, whose remark I quoted. You seem to be one of the more reasonable posters here.
People can always better themselves in order to be better people and to benefit everyone they come into contact with, it shouldn’t be just about finding a partner. Admittedly ROK isn’t as out there as it was a few years ago but some of the articles on undesirable women are very unkind and critical of women who don’t meet certain beauty standards or have tattoos, piercings or extreme hairstyles, even when talking about attracting the right sorts of women it all feels very objectifying.

To be fair I cant really object discussion of toxic femininity any more than discussion of toxic masculinity, I just don’t agree with some of the definitions of toxic femininity. I do think part of sex education for both genders should look at how to spot and avoid toxic partners.
 
Didn’t you say a while back that you’re a fan of Roosh V? If his writings aren’t representative of the Red Pill, then what is in your eyes?
Loaded question.

To be fair, he was also the hero who retained his integrity until the end. Everyone else sold out to the villain.
So this means no women would be included in the ruling “elite”.
I will take the 5th Amendment here.
 
I will take the 5th Amendment here.
Exactly why I don’t have to judge you by an online fringe community. You have an admitted inability or refusal to see or treat women as individuals, rather than as a collective of “the enemy”. That’s judging you as an individual, and it’s a courtesy I hope you someday learn to extend to others, for your own sake.
 
Exactly why I don’t have to judge you by an online fringe community. You have an admitted inability or refusal to see or treat women as individuals, rather than as a collective of “the enemy”. That’s judging you as an individual, and it’s a courtesy I hope you someday learn to extend to others, for your own sake.
I really do not care what your opinion of me is. I have no reason to respect it.
 
I really do not care what your opinion of me is. I have no reason to respect it.
I’m just pointing out that you were whining earlier about being judged by the misogynists in the red pill universe, and clarifying that it’s not the case.😉
 
I’m just pointing out that you were whining earlier about being judged by the misogynists in the red pill universe, and clarifying that it’s not the case.😉
No, I was complaining about what I perceived to be a double standard. If I am not being called a misogynist by the feminist posters here, that is a sign that I am clearly doing something wrong.
 
No, I was complaining about what I perceived to be a double standard. If I am not being called a misogynist by the feminist posters here, that is a sign that I am clearly doing something wrong.
Pretty sure you’re being called a misogynist by a lot of people here who aren’t feminists, too.

Honestly, leaving feminism aside, I’m not even sure how you manage to call yourself a Catholic, since so many views you express are diametrically opposed to the teaching of the Church.
 
No, I was complaining about what I perceived to be a double standard. If I am not being called a misogynist by the feminist posters here, that is a sign that I am clearly doing something wrong.
Double standard? You tried to judge Sarcelle based on writings on websites she probably doesn’t even care to visit and has never once referenced. You’re being judged on the things you have personally said. You may not like the judgements, but they are fair and tailored specifically to you, unlike your “blah blah blah women suck” ramblings.

Still curious as to how all of this reconciles with Catholicism. Frankly, you give the most extreme branches of Islam a run for their money.
 
Pretty sure you’re being called a misogynist by a lot of people here who aren’t feminists, too.

Honestly, leaving feminism aside, I’m not even sure how you manage to call yourself a Catholic, since so many views you express are diametrically opposed to the teaching of the Church.
SuperLuigi called me a misogynist? That is news to me. He is more or the less the only poster on this thread who is certainly not a feminist.
Double standard? You tried to judge Sarcelle based on writings on websites she probably doesn’t even care to visit and has never once referenced.
No I did not.
You’re being judged on the things you have personally said. You may not like the judgements, but they are fair and tailored specifically to you, unlike your “blah blah blah women suck” ramblings.
I never complained about being called a misogynist.
Still curious as to how all of this reconciles with Catholicism. Frankly, you give the most extreme branches of Islam a run for their money.
That is an issue for God and not for you.
 
DarkLight;14708149]Pretty sure you’re being called a misogynist by a lot of people here who aren’t feminists, too.
I guess that makes it right then, huh?
Honestly, leaving feminism aside, I’m not even sure how you manage to call yourself a Catholic, since so many views you express are diametrically opposed to the teaching of the Church.
Ah, questioning Catholicity even thought it’s against the rules.

So do you ask the people on the News Forums who support abortion that? Or is being a white nationalist and/or fighting for men’s rights now the greatest sin on the face of the planet?
 
No, I was complaining about what I perceived to be a double standard. If I am not being called a misogynist by the feminist posters here, that is a sign that I am clearly doing something wrong.
I love this logic. Every neo-Nazi, Alt-Righter and Red Piller on the internet believes it - they call me a racist/misogynist/homophobe because they know I’m right and can’t handle the truth!

I imagine somewhere in the world at this moment there is a NAMBLA activist telling himself the same - “They call me a paedophile because they can’t argue with my superior position!”
Or is being a white nationalist and/or fighting for men’s rights now the greatest sin on the face of the planet?
White nationalists are human filth, thoroughly disgusting people. MRAs and Red Pillers are just a bit pathetic - young, disaffected, socially awkward men who have major social issues and can’t get laid so they lash out at women as a collective. Honestly if you talk to one for long enough their personal issues with women always come out.
 
I love this logic. Every neo-Nazi, Alt-Righter and Red Piller on the internet believes it - they call me a racist/misogynist/homophobe because they know I’m right and can’t handle the truth!

I imagine somewhere in the world at this moment there is a NAMBLA activist telling himself the same - “They call me a paedophile because they can’t argue with my superior position!”
The left has a habit calling anyone who disagrees with them some sort of a name. The proper response, “And this gives you power over me?”
White nationalists are human filth, thoroughly disgusting people. MRAs and Red Pillers are just a bit pathetic - young, disaffected, socially awkward men who have major social issues and can’t get laid so they lash out at women as a collective. Honestly if you talk to one for long enough their personal issues with women always come out.
A communist calling people disgusting, now that is funny.
 
[Regular Atheist;14708208]I love this logic. Every neo-Nazi, Alt-Righter and Red Piller on the internet believes it - they call me a racist/misogynist/homophobe because they know I’m right and can’t handle the truth!
Name-calling happens because liberals, blue-pillers, 3rd-wave feminists and communists don’t have arguments.

Which is why their definition of Nazi now includes conservative Jews, “married” gay atheist Democrats like Dave Rubin, and gay men like Milo Yiannoplous.

Sorry, but you’re going to have to do to WAYYYYY better than a misread of what starshiptrooper said.

youtube.com/watch?v=2AhGYo9TExU
I imagine somewhere in the world at this moment there is a NAMBLA activist telling himself the same - “They call me a paedophile because they can’t argue with my superior position!”
Interestingly enough, given the cultural trends, it will be your side that sees pedophilia as the next civil rights.
White nationalists are human filth, thoroughly disgusting people. MRAs and Red Pillers are just a bit pathetic - young, disaffected, socially awkward men who have major social issues and can’t get laid so they lash out at women as a collective. Honestly if you talk to one for long enough their personal issues with women always come out.
:rotfl:

Translation: anyone who doesn’t agree with a different opinion is human filth, disgusting, can’t get a date and lash out (projection maybe?).
Honestly if you talk to one for long enough their personal issues with women always come out.
Ladies and gentlemen, for those who have been asking either through PM or reply, this is exactly why:
  1. I refer many of you to professional counseling. You’re not going to get the help you need on here, and comments like the above prove it and
  2. I will not trust any First World liberal who says they care about me or the group(s) identity they have assigned to me.
 
Men oppressed? How can this be? We’ve just been informed that we’re suffering from a new problem: White Male Privilege!

“Yeah. Yesterday was a good day until some stranger told me I got White Male Privilege.”

“You know how you solve that? Quit listening to strangers who don’t know anything about you.”

There are impolite people out there who will put a broad stroke of paint across an entire group of people.

Ed
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There is not a human being in the world who would not be able to find a reason to be a victim and be oppressed. The problem with this “pity poor me because no appreciates my suffering” is especially wrong because it detracts from those who are truly oppressed and in need.

We all have problems - sometimes terribly serious problems. We can either blame the world or we can rejoice in the gifts that we have be given and work with God to make our journey toward Him one of joy and giving.

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Or is being a white nationalist and/or fighting for men’s rights now the greatest sin on the face of the planet?
No, but saying, for example, that men shouldn’t get married because it’s more profitable to just have sex with women and marriage nowadays is just a legal trick for women to take advantage of men, or claiming (or effectively claiming) that no women should be in a leadership position, or talking about how most or all women are just gold-diggers who want to have fun with a “alpha male” but marry a “beta”, does I think pretty effectively go against Catholic teaching. All of which are things starshiptrooper has said in the past.
 
Still curious as to how white nationalism and red pill stuff reconciles with Catholicism’s dignity of all persons and such…

Or does anger at “lesser” groups trump those teachings? I just find it incredible that the response to white nationalism on CAF is “is it really the worst thing”? Um…yes. Most of the world’s problems (not just the West’s, the world’s) can be traced to an unwillingness or inability to view “others” as fully human and worthy of dignity and respect.
 
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