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Dakota_Roberts
Guest
Or it suggests that the Courts recognize so bizarre thing called freedom of speech of course it isn’t like freedom of speech in any document in the US of at least minor importance in the US legal framework.
- Status
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CopticChristian
Guest
DR,
recognizing that a group of people are protected based on sexual orientation equates to free speech in your mind in what way?
You apparently see this notion that the courts say that homosexuality is not immutable as a problem. Is this so?
What does this mean to you?
What does this say about you?
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Dakota_Roberts
Guest
Mea culpa, I meant “the right of the people peaceably to assemble”.
They are recognizing rights not passing judgement.
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Nandarani
Guest
Aloha,
Here I am interrupting, and referring back several pages. I am not up on the back and forth of this thread to the extent that I can join in, but I’ve been reading through it tonight. Upon reaching the opinion that exposure doesn’t matter much, I thought I’d respond.
Here is the quote from an earlier post to which I respond, specifically with regard to the effect of the culture on children. I teach in public school, elementary.
*Also, there’s little evidence that a belief that same-sex sexual activity is okay will always and inevitably lead to the errors you enumerate, either in whole or in part, with an inevitable corruption of the mind as a reliable result. *
I do believe, based on what I have seen around me in public school, that it is possible that WATCHING material that puts forward the idea that all is fine either way WILL increase thoughts I would regard as deviant - at least from the point of view of what was. Our culture wants weakening of men and elimination of the family. The agenda IS producing results, even among elementary school aged children. Parents are too busy, and lack influence except in a few cases. Children, I’ve seen them in strollers, are online too much, and fall into traps laid for them. I know because of the questions they ask, at school. Parents either know, and lock sites on media to which the child has access, or they don’t.
Children are impressionable, VERY much so. Their minds respond instantly and uncritically to what they are fed in public school and what their parents unwittingly expose them to at day-care. Day-care turns out to be a central variable in the lives of children growing up today. Parent (name removed by moderator)ut and influence is unusual if it is present.
This isn’t happening by chance; it is a cultural agenda being consciously carried out, and the fruits of decades of this agenda are considerable and very obvious today. People are more easily controlled if they are weakened; that is why the culture is being deliberately degraded by the efforts of a group of people who are not focusing on their own tradition, but on the tradition of the majority culture. The weapons are pointed outward, not inward, by those who, by their own admission, ‘run Hollywood.’ If anyone doubts this, go watch Brother Nathanael on youtube. He discusses this particular issue among a wide spectrum of others, specifically from the point of view of an Orthodox Catholic monk, who was born into a Jewish family.
Here I am interrupting, and referring back several pages. I am not up on the back and forth of this thread to the extent that I can join in, but I’ve been reading through it tonight. Upon reaching the opinion that exposure doesn’t matter much, I thought I’d respond.
Here is the quote from an earlier post to which I respond, specifically with regard to the effect of the culture on children. I teach in public school, elementary.
*Also, there’s little evidence that a belief that same-sex sexual activity is okay will always and inevitably lead to the errors you enumerate, either in whole or in part, with an inevitable corruption of the mind as a reliable result. *
I do believe, based on what I have seen around me in public school, that it is possible that WATCHING material that puts forward the idea that all is fine either way WILL increase thoughts I would regard as deviant - at least from the point of view of what was. Our culture wants weakening of men and elimination of the family. The agenda IS producing results, even among elementary school aged children. Parents are too busy, and lack influence except in a few cases. Children, I’ve seen them in strollers, are online too much, and fall into traps laid for them. I know because of the questions they ask, at school. Parents either know, and lock sites on media to which the child has access, or they don’t.
Children are impressionable, VERY much so. Their minds respond instantly and uncritically to what they are fed in public school and what their parents unwittingly expose them to at day-care. Day-care turns out to be a central variable in the lives of children growing up today. Parent (name removed by moderator)ut and influence is unusual if it is present.
This isn’t happening by chance; it is a cultural agenda being consciously carried out, and the fruits of decades of this agenda are considerable and very obvious today. People are more easily controlled if they are weakened; that is why the culture is being deliberately degraded by the efforts of a group of people who are not focusing on their own tradition, but on the tradition of the majority culture. The weapons are pointed outward, not inward, by those who, by their own admission, ‘run Hollywood.’ If anyone doubts this, go watch Brother Nathanael on youtube. He discusses this particular issue among a wide spectrum of others, specifically from the point of view of an Orthodox Catholic monk, who was born into a Jewish family.
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CopticChristian
Guest
Nan,
The important thing is to be watchful and listen…sadly on this forum you will find…
Catholic, Christian, Anglican, Methodist, Christ seeking monikers…stating…
Homosexuality is like blue eyes
Homsexuality is defined by the culture
Once a Homosexual always a homosexual
The only therapy for Homosexuals is therapy for acceptance
anyone that accepts this denies Humani Generous and denies Adam and Eve…
They may be travelling salesman, they may be computer geeks, they may be from the USA, Canada, The United Kingdom, Australia or Singapore…
When you see, read someone saying they have science, they have numerous LGBT contacts, circles of friends, spend time on websites with LGBT, know lots of people with Sexual anomalies…
These are red flags…
Immediately notice these things, tell them they are wrong and refernce this thread and the information in it for correction…
Sadly this CAF has people that attempt to suggest the secular world propaganda…
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Faithdancer
Guest
Saddest of all, and I infer that you are suggesting these, Coptic, but many baptized Roman Catholics have fallen for the lie that they can support legislation legalizing same sex “marriage,” or not oppose it- which is the same as supporting it.
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Dakota_Roberts
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You are aware that the etiology of it is irrelevant to the teachings of the Church right? Even if it was proven to be totally genetic it wouldn’t affect the teachings of the Church. Interestingly the Church considered the potential of biological origin for this inclination therefore it could not be heretical to believe such a thing.
It is Humani Generis
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CopticChristian
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CopticChristian
Guest
Faith,Saddest of all, and I infer that you are suggesting these, Coptic, but many baptized Roman Catholics have fallen for the lie that they can support legislation legalizing same sex “marriage,” or not oppose it-, which is the same as supporting it.
Yup same group…
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edwest2
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To CopticChristian,
I encourage you to continue to spread the truth. Let me add, I lived through the time period when our Federal, State and local governments respected Christianity. Everyone I knew had shared beliefs and shared values, but here was the goal: to divorce sex from real love. I could watch a movie or something on TV and not be offended. Courtesy, politeness, and decency were the order of the day. No, it was not perfect but we all looked out for each other and we had a healthy sense of shame, guilt and what right and wrong meant. Let’s review how you can turn a country’s idea of what sex should be upside down.
1960 The FDA approves the birth control pill. Keep in mind, most people still lived on farms and in rural areas. Those of us who lived in cities didn’t need a Birth Control Pill. I and my friends were born before it could be sold, and the average number of kids in my neighborhood was two - TWO. And that was true for neighborhoods miles away.
1967 Like any product, manufacturers of The Pill had to market it and it had to have a benefit. What was that benefit? A lie called FREEDOM.
time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,843551,00.html
Read the title to the article: “Contraception: Freedom from Fear.” Fear of what? Babies. We didn’t have this “fear” before, but always keep in mind, at the time we were far more trusting of the media because it reflected our values. The same for experts.
1968 Pope Paul VI drops the bomb. Humanae Vitae reaffirmed constant Church teaching about artificial birth control. Dissidents inside and outside the Church went crazy. It might impact sales! People might actually listen to the Pope!
"Within 24 hours, in an event unprecedented in the history of the Church, more than 200 dissenting theologians signed a full-page ad in The New York Times in protest. Not only did they declare their disagreement with encyclical’s teaching; they went one step further, far beyond their authority as theologians, and actually encouraged dissent among the lay faithful.
"They asserted the following: “Therefore, as Roman Catholic theologians, conscious of our duty and our limitations, we conclude that spouses may responsibly decide according to their conscience that artificial contraception in some circumstances is permissible and indeed necessary to preserve and foster the values and sacredness of marriage.”
Source: Regnum Christi
Pope Paul VI warned that increased promiscuity would occur if his words were not heeded. Meanwhile, long haired, strangely dressed people began to appear in our neighborhoods. They told us to reject all authority. “Don’t trust anyone over 30!” That marriage meant nothing - it was just a piece of paper, and using marijuana and other illegal drugs was a good thing. Live with your girlfriend and have sex with her, or anyone. The lie was sold using the word FREEDOM.
1969 Time to create the ultimate deception campaign to obtain the legalization of the ultimate form of contraception: abortion. Keep in mind, it was drilled into our heads: NO sexual intercourse until marriage. But enemy number one then, as today, was still the Catholic Church. Please read the following attack plan. The same as is being used today.
catholicnewsagency.com/resources/abortion/articles-and-addresses/an-ex-abortionist-speaks/
And those dissidents inside the Church? They were hard at work spreading confusion and trouble during the late 1960s and 1970s.
online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704586504574654282563939764.html
1970s What was meant to totally private was put on display as Adult Bookstores, strip clubs and topless bars were opened across the country. I was shocked. But when we protested, their high-priced lawyers said they had “the First Amendment right” for all of it. I began to lose trust for my government.
continued
I encourage you to continue to spread the truth. Let me add, I lived through the time period when our Federal, State and local governments respected Christianity. Everyone I knew had shared beliefs and shared values, but here was the goal: to divorce sex from real love. I could watch a movie or something on TV and not be offended. Courtesy, politeness, and decency were the order of the day. No, it was not perfect but we all looked out for each other and we had a healthy sense of shame, guilt and what right and wrong meant. Let’s review how you can turn a country’s idea of what sex should be upside down.
1960 The FDA approves the birth control pill. Keep in mind, most people still lived on farms and in rural areas. Those of us who lived in cities didn’t need a Birth Control Pill. I and my friends were born before it could be sold, and the average number of kids in my neighborhood was two - TWO. And that was true for neighborhoods miles away.
1967 Like any product, manufacturers of The Pill had to market it and it had to have a benefit. What was that benefit? A lie called FREEDOM.
time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,843551,00.html
Read the title to the article: “Contraception: Freedom from Fear.” Fear of what? Babies. We didn’t have this “fear” before, but always keep in mind, at the time we were far more trusting of the media because it reflected our values. The same for experts.
1968 Pope Paul VI drops the bomb. Humanae Vitae reaffirmed constant Church teaching about artificial birth control. Dissidents inside and outside the Church went crazy. It might impact sales! People might actually listen to the Pope!
"Within 24 hours, in an event unprecedented in the history of the Church, more than 200 dissenting theologians signed a full-page ad in The New York Times in protest. Not only did they declare their disagreement with encyclical’s teaching; they went one step further, far beyond their authority as theologians, and actually encouraged dissent among the lay faithful.
"They asserted the following: “Therefore, as Roman Catholic theologians, conscious of our duty and our limitations, we conclude that spouses may responsibly decide according to their conscience that artificial contraception in some circumstances is permissible and indeed necessary to preserve and foster the values and sacredness of marriage.”
Source: Regnum Christi
Pope Paul VI warned that increased promiscuity would occur if his words were not heeded. Meanwhile, long haired, strangely dressed people began to appear in our neighborhoods. They told us to reject all authority. “Don’t trust anyone over 30!” That marriage meant nothing - it was just a piece of paper, and using marijuana and other illegal drugs was a good thing. Live with your girlfriend and have sex with her, or anyone. The lie was sold using the word FREEDOM.
1969 Time to create the ultimate deception campaign to obtain the legalization of the ultimate form of contraception: abortion. Keep in mind, it was drilled into our heads: NO sexual intercourse until marriage. But enemy number one then, as today, was still the Catholic Church. Please read the following attack plan. The same as is being used today.
catholicnewsagency.com/resources/abortion/articles-and-addresses/an-ex-abortionist-speaks/
And those dissidents inside the Church? They were hard at work spreading confusion and trouble during the late 1960s and 1970s.
online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704586504574654282563939764.html
1970s What was meant to totally private was put on display as Adult Bookstores, strip clubs and topless bars were opened across the country. I was shocked. But when we protested, their high-priced lawyers said they had “the First Amendment right” for all of it. I began to lose trust for my government.
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edwest2
Guest
And things were not going well in seminaries during the 1970s either.
bereanpublishers.com/goodbye-good-men/
Yes, seminarians were taught Humanae Vitae but they were given the impression that the Church might change its teaching on artificial birth control. So when they became priests, and parishioners asked about the subject, they told them it was a personal conscience matter. That has begun to change. Pope Paul VI meant what he said.
1973 Abortion is legalized - not by the people - but by the Supreme Court. My lack of faith in my government drops again.
Read part 16 of the following:
vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_19741118_declaration-abortion_en.html
And it slowly falls further as I see what the media is doing at the movies and on TV. At the time, I didn’t think things were too bad with the media but no one could clearly see what was coming. More and more of the long-haired preachers of pleasure and hedonism appear and openly defy parents and bring scandal to others, all the while being angry of any attempts at proper correction: “We’re grown adults! Leave us alone!!”
1973 In an effort to make years of published research regarding homosexual persons magically disappear, radical gay activists declare war on the American Psychological Association (see Frank Kameny), and gay activists inside and outside the APA manipulate a vote that has it declassified as a disorder.
amazon.com/Homosexuality-American-Psychiatry-Politics-Diagnosis/dp/0691028370
The rest of the 1970s was filled with the words of the vicious, radical anti-family organization, the National Organization for Women. Using the Marxist class warfare model to do this:
Women: The eternal victim class.
Men: The eternal enemies class.
NOW did nothing to stop the rampant sexual exploitation of women or work to help some women and some men to help resolve the real problems that exist between men and women. Today, NOW is 100% pro-abortion, pro ‘gay rights’ and even endorses the idea that it’s OK for women to be prostitutes.
I heard: “Sisters! Throw off the chains of your oppression!” What chains? Men. All men. They were committed to overthrowing the male-dominated world and getting POWER. Overthrow the Patriarchy! Including those old guys running the Catholic Church.
Do you see how this might confuse men and women about their proper roles? No, they said, don’t be a stay at home mom. Get a career! Get POWER!! Overthrow men. Do IT!
1980s Porn on Cable TV. By the mid-1980s, I had lost most of my faith in the media, and my government.
Do you see what all these groups wanted from 1960 till today? Lots of sex with anyone - BY LAW! Get everyone to accept our ‘alternate lifestyles.’
It’s not going to happen. Seminaries are getting more seminarians with a greater zeal. Pope John Paul II and Pope Benedict did much to right the ship.
Have hope. Whatever laws are passed and whatever you hear were manipulated into being.
Peace,
Ed
bereanpublishers.com/goodbye-good-men/
Yes, seminarians were taught Humanae Vitae but they were given the impression that the Church might change its teaching on artificial birth control. So when they became priests, and parishioners asked about the subject, they told them it was a personal conscience matter. That has begun to change. Pope Paul VI meant what he said.
1973 Abortion is legalized - not by the people - but by the Supreme Court. My lack of faith in my government drops again.
Read part 16 of the following:
vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_19741118_declaration-abortion_en.html
And it slowly falls further as I see what the media is doing at the movies and on TV. At the time, I didn’t think things were too bad with the media but no one could clearly see what was coming. More and more of the long-haired preachers of pleasure and hedonism appear and openly defy parents and bring scandal to others, all the while being angry of any attempts at proper correction: “We’re grown adults! Leave us alone!!”
1973 In an effort to make years of published research regarding homosexual persons magically disappear, radical gay activists declare war on the American Psychological Association (see Frank Kameny), and gay activists inside and outside the APA manipulate a vote that has it declassified as a disorder.
amazon.com/Homosexuality-American-Psychiatry-Politics-Diagnosis/dp/0691028370
The rest of the 1970s was filled with the words of the vicious, radical anti-family organization, the National Organization for Women. Using the Marxist class warfare model to do this:
Women: The eternal victim class.
Men: The eternal enemies class.
NOW did nothing to stop the rampant sexual exploitation of women or work to help some women and some men to help resolve the real problems that exist between men and women. Today, NOW is 100% pro-abortion, pro ‘gay rights’ and even endorses the idea that it’s OK for women to be prostitutes.
I heard: “Sisters! Throw off the chains of your oppression!” What chains? Men. All men. They were committed to overthrowing the male-dominated world and getting POWER. Overthrow the Patriarchy! Including those old guys running the Catholic Church.
Do you see how this might confuse men and women about their proper roles? No, they said, don’t be a stay at home mom. Get a career! Get POWER!! Overthrow men. Do IT!
1980s Porn on Cable TV. By the mid-1980s, I had lost most of my faith in the media, and my government.
Do you see what all these groups wanted from 1960 till today? Lots of sex with anyone - BY LAW! Get everyone to accept our ‘alternate lifestyles.’
It’s not going to happen. Seminaries are getting more seminarians with a greater zeal. Pope John Paul II and Pope Benedict did much to right the ship.
Have hope. Whatever laws are passed and whatever you hear were manipulated into being.
Peace,
Ed
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CopticChristian
Guest
Thank you Ed…
It is time that thoughts are formulated and congealed rather than fragmented. You did a great job of outlining a time line. I would ask you to invite as many as possible to add to this thread as you have. I would hope in time as the CAF continues that many that need resources to confront the agenda mongers that lurk on these threads will find them here.
I now know that there are many that come to these threads to attempt to interject their agenda, this agenda as you have outlined with Monikers stating
Catholic
Christian
Anglican
Methodis
Byzantine
from the USA, Canada, The United Kingdom and Singapore…
all stating in one way or another
What’s wrong with allowing homosexuals to marry
Homosexuality is like blue eyes
Sexuality is defined by Culture
Lets look at what a life of a homosexual like this would look like
We need to allow for homosexuals to get therapy for acceptance
Why can’t we give up on the issue of abortion
The Church will need to change
and more…
I would hope that those that know that there are within the fold of the CAF those posting as if faithful posting as if by accident many of the above statements that many ignore…and like a virus these thoughts get in the mind and are accepted…
I would hope that you and others when they see these wrong absolutes that they are corrected and when resources are needed they find them…some are here and I would encourage others to post more…
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edwest2
Guest
You’re welcome. Here are a few words from Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger and approved by Pope John Paul II that clearly shows that all along, sex was the goal and now, too many live in bondage to the flesh through a wrong - obviously wrong - way of viewing themselves which has grown out of years of listening to those who want to undermine the truth about man and woman.
“The second tendency emerges in the wake of the first. In order to avoid the domination of one sex or the other, their differences tend to be denied, viewed as mere effects of historical and cultural conditioning. In this perspective, physical difference, termed sex, is minimized, while the purely cultural element, termed gender, is emphasized to the maximum and held to be primary. The obscuring of the difference or duality of the sexes has enormous consequences on a variety of levels. This theory of the human person, intended to promote prospects for equality of women through liberation from biological determinism, has in reality inspired ideologies which, for example, call into question the family, in its natural two-parent structure of mother and father, and make homosexuality and heterosexuality virtually equivalent, in a new model of polymorphous sexuality.”
I encourage everyone to read the rest:
vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_20040731_collaboration_en.html
To be blunt, whatever gives you sexual pleasure is to be permitted.
Peace,
Ed
“The second tendency emerges in the wake of the first. In order to avoid the domination of one sex or the other, their differences tend to be denied, viewed as mere effects of historical and cultural conditioning. In this perspective, physical difference, termed sex, is minimized, while the purely cultural element, termed gender, is emphasized to the maximum and held to be primary. The obscuring of the difference or duality of the sexes has enormous consequences on a variety of levels. This theory of the human person, intended to promote prospects for equality of women through liberation from biological determinism, has in reality inspired ideologies which, for example, call into question the family, in its natural two-parent structure of mother and father, and make homosexuality and heterosexuality virtually equivalent, in a new model of polymorphous sexuality.”
I encourage everyone to read the rest:
vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_20040731_collaboration_en.html
To be blunt, whatever gives you sexual pleasure is to be permitted.
Peace,
Ed
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Arandur
Guest
Thank you, Ed! That’s a great summary. I’d love to see a documentary or series of YouTube videos or something like that going in depth into the all the cultural changes–and the underlying destructive philosophies.
One result of so many of these changes and philosophies is that the Western world is going to die off simply because it has committed demographic suicide–we are not replacing ourselves. A shrinking, aging population will lead to the death of the culture, if not a total collapse of civilization (correlate economics and political demands with the strife of this demographic trend and you’ll see what I mean).
This will be physical proof of the nihilistic, un-natural, destructive nature of these ideas and behaviors.
Over the last few months, I came to the realization that perhaps the best possible thing that faithful Catholics can do for the world, the only way to save it, is to have lots of kids and raise them very carefully to be very faithful Catholics.
It may be the only chance the Western world has of surviving.
And it is the best hope for our society that the destructive cultural trends die out due to lack of reproduction and be replaced by the life-giving fruitfulness of the Faithful.
One result of so many of these changes and philosophies is that the Western world is going to die off simply because it has committed demographic suicide–we are not replacing ourselves. A shrinking, aging population will lead to the death of the culture, if not a total collapse of civilization (correlate economics and political demands with the strife of this demographic trend and you’ll see what I mean).
This will be physical proof of the nihilistic, un-natural, destructive nature of these ideas and behaviors.
Over the last few months, I came to the realization that perhaps the best possible thing that faithful Catholics can do for the world, the only way to save it, is to have lots of kids and raise them very carefully to be very faithful Catholics.
It may be the only chance the Western world has of surviving.
And it is the best hope for our society that the destructive cultural trends die out due to lack of reproduction and be replaced by the life-giving fruitfulness of the Faithful.
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InSearchofGrace
Guest
This reply is late, Dakota, because I wanted to spend some time on it.
Further, in post #69, I covered this
Data seems to abound that there is more than a handful of variations in the stream of human sexual desire and compulsion between heterosexual and non-heterosexual on opposite ends. LGBTQ … to asexual. Deep-seated to transitory to absence. Does one with whatever is the articulated conflict acceptance of the condition, living out the inclination without scrutiny of objective personal physical and non-physical harm, management, or towards change? If one seeks change, is there only one result that should be targeted or be made acceptable? So how is it that one mechanism to manage unwanted homosexual urge need to be disparaged, be disallowed?
My thinking as to “homosexual hold” is this,
I imagine, for an older male who has indulged over a number of years as a homosexual practitioner, i.e., frequent or regular gay sex with a partner or partners, but who wish to change, it probably would be overreaching to expect a sexual orientation change, and that the most that can be achieved is changed behavior.
A younger male, in a transitory or experimenting phase, who wish to get rid of the unwanted discovered appetite for gay sex, may look to not just changed behavior but also a change in orientation.
I would submit that one who has same sex attraction but has never acted on it, would be, in the best position to change sexual orientation. I understand that there are enough personal accounts in this forum disputing that SSA can be prayed away. It is difficult in this milieu where homosexual themes on tv, films, books, news, and social media are constantly peddled, and the proliferation of pornography made accessible to young and old.
Prayers and reception of sacraments are not enough. If allowed to counsel a young brother conflicted with SSA, I would encourage diligent avoidance of pornography, critical thought and discernment of powerful influences that more than not cater to prurient interests and making of profit only, distance from occasions of sin in the course of socialization. You are smart, and these you already know, I’m certain. I am not saying it is easy.
My 2 cents.
May the blessings and love of the risen Christ follow you in your struggle, Dakota. I, too, have personal struggles, and am not without sin.
,
The exchange between Kolbe and me, as can be gleaned from our subsequent posts, reflect the clarifications we made to our respective positions.
Further, in post #69, I covered this
Data seems to abound that there is more than a handful of variations in the stream of human sexual desire and compulsion between heterosexual and non-heterosexual on opposite ends. LGBTQ … to asexual. Deep-seated to transitory to absence. Does one with whatever is the articulated conflict acceptance of the condition, living out the inclination without scrutiny of objective personal physical and non-physical harm, management, or towards change? If one seeks change, is there only one result that should be targeted or be made acceptable? So how is it that one mechanism to manage unwanted homosexual urge need to be disparaged, be disallowed?
Orientation / attraction on one side is separate from behavior / acts, yes.
My thinking as to “homosexual hold” is this,
I imagine, for an older male who has indulged over a number of years as a homosexual practitioner, i.e., frequent or regular gay sex with a partner or partners, but who wish to change, it probably would be overreaching to expect a sexual orientation change, and that the most that can be achieved is changed behavior.
A younger male, in a transitory or experimenting phase, who wish to get rid of the unwanted discovered appetite for gay sex, may look to not just changed behavior but also a change in orientation.
I would submit that one who has same sex attraction but has never acted on it, would be, in the best position to change sexual orientation. I understand that there are enough personal accounts in this forum disputing that SSA can be prayed away. It is difficult in this milieu where homosexual themes on tv, films, books, news, and social media are constantly peddled, and the proliferation of pornography made accessible to young and old.
Prayers and reception of sacraments are not enough. If allowed to counsel a young brother conflicted with SSA, I would encourage diligent avoidance of pornography, critical thought and discernment of powerful influences that more than not cater to prurient interests and making of profit only, distance from occasions of sin in the course of socialization. You are smart, and these you already know, I’m certain. I am not saying it is easy.
My 2 cents.
May the blessings and love of the risen Christ follow you in your struggle, Dakota. I, too, have personal struggles, and am not without sin.
,
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Diana_Catherine
Guest
Thank you Coptic Christian for this post and the links.
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Diana_Catherine
Guest
This is a great post. Thank you.
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edwest2
Guest
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CopticChristian
Guest
Ladytina,
I have reviewed this site and the restaurant failure. I have been busy and so have been away for a bit. I realized that restaurants as you know suffer from one of the highest failure rates of all business. I have a few pieces of advice.
Location, location, location…is always important. Manitoba may not be the best place for this particular restaurant and perhaps another try at another location would be best.
There is no way to know what caused the restaurant to fail, as the story tells us nothing of the menu, the service, just a potential reason for failure. Restaurant stake out may be the way to go if another try for another restaurant is considered.
Lastly I suggest this…try another location and if there are problems contact Robert Irvine…
restaurantimpossible.com/
Here is the link for…Restaurant Impossible
Someone should tell these guys to give it another go and if necessary contact Restaurant Impossible…
- Status