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Contra_Mundum_1
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I like this, looks great.
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Joannm
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Why not just wear a hat? There are so many nice staw hats for summer and they look nice with anything you wear.
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105lynne
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It IS because of St. Paul : I Corinthians 11:10
[6] For if a woman be not covered, let her be shorn. But if it be a shame to a woman to be shorn or made bald, let her cover her head. [7] The man indeed ought not to cover his head, because he is the image and glory of God; but the woman is the glory of the man. [8] For the man is not of the woman, but the woman of the man. [9] For the man was not created for the woman, but the woman for the man. [10] Therefore ought the woman to have a power over her head, because of the angels.
[10] “A power”… that is, a veil or covering, as a sign that she is under the power of her husband: and this, the apostle adds, because of the angels, who are present in the assemblies of the faithful.
I DO try to research customs, practices, traditions, etc… I don’t just mindlessly do things because my mom said so. I try to adhere to every Catholic rule, and follow them. But that doesn’t mean I don’t try to find out why we do certain things, whether that be through reading scripture, CCC, etc… I’m sorry that my previous explanation wasn’t clear enough. I love covering my head and don’t foresee me changing my mind. This Catholic journey is ongoing, and I suspect it will be until my last day. There is SO MUCH to the Catholic faith. I try, literally, everyday, to learn/understand some aspect of my faith. Thank goodness for this website! It has helped me too! Peace to you and you’re in my prayers
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Love_Divine
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I wear a Mantilla because it helps keep me in the right mind frame, and acts a blinder to what’s going on around me. Unfortunately Mass has become an occasion of sin for me, now that I’m at a parish where reverence and solemnity have been completely thrown out the window.
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MissRose73
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I would love to see headcoverings return to Mass for women, and perhaps more reverence & respect would return too with it.
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cecilia97
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Loves me some tichel! This site has videos on how to tie them: coveryourhair.com/israeliTichelIndex.html
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Jack_Bauer
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As I’ve said before, I’d just be happy to see women cover their shoulders and other bear necessities during mass. Saw another tight fitting-sleeveless dress on a lectern. If I were the priest I’d make it clear that every woman entering the church would be covered properly before being allowed to enter or stay. It’ would be a rocky road at first, but eventually it would help increase spiritual life of the community. None of the Protestant churches I grew up attending allowed women to dress the way women do at mass. I don’t get it.
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MissRose73
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Good idea
I was going home from work yesterday, and a large group of people were leaving a Protestant church after services going to the parking lot when I was waiting a long time at a red light. I did not see a single female wearing a sleeveless dress or a short dress (or short skirt with sleeveless tops, they were knee length or below - dresses/shirts with short sleeves, and nearly every man (and boy) was wearing a suit & tie (a few wore nice shirts with khaki pants). Keep in mind it was 90 degrees Fahrenheit yesterday where I live too. Now that is something that would be nice to see in Catholic churches more, the respect for God with dressing up to go to His house.
I was going home from work yesterday, and a large group of people were leaving a Protestant church after services going to the parking lot when I was waiting a long time at a red light. I did not see a single female wearing a sleeveless dress or a short dress (or short skirt with sleeveless tops, they were knee length or below - dresses/shirts with short sleeves, and nearly every man (and boy) was wearing a suit & tie (a few wore nice shirts with khaki pants). Keep in mind it was 90 degrees Fahrenheit yesterday where I live too. Now that is something that would be nice to see in Catholic churches more, the respect for God with dressing up to go to His house.
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TrueLight
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That’s awesome.Good idea
I was going home from work yesterday, and a large group of people were leaving a Protestant church after services going to the parking lot when I was waiting a long time at a red light. I did not see a single female wearing a sleeveless dress or a short dress (or short skirt with sleeveless tops, they were knee length or below - dresses/shirts with short sleeves, and nearly every man (and boy) was wearing a suit & tie (a few wore nice shirts with khaki pants). Keep in mind it was 90 degrees Fahrenheit yesterday where I live too. Now that is something that would be nice to see in Catholic churches more, the respect for God with dressing up to go to His house.
Just keep in mind not all Protestant denominations believe the same thing. Some are more conservative than others.
At my daughter’s confirmation at a very loving, but liberal Protestant church, this girl, who was also being confirmed, wore a dress that barely covered her bottom and fishnet stockings. Her mom was present, so it’s not like she wasn’t aware of it.
You would think it would be common sense to dress appropriately for one’s confirmation.
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MissRose73
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Very true. One of my best friends is Protestant but she goes to a church where people dress very casual, and some of the signs say “come as you are”. Where she used to live, we would see some people walking to one of the local churches on Sunday morning, and many were wearing tees & shorts (or jeans) with tennis shoes or sandals.
The church I drove by was definitely conservative as I was waiting for a large group to cross the intersection I was stopped at to pass me decked out in their Sunday best outfits.
When I was confirmed, I can assure neither my mother or my aunt (Godmother/Sponsor) would have not allowed me to dress in anything that was not conservative for that day. I wore a nice blue dress with white short sleeves that went below my knees.
The church I drove by was definitely conservative as I was waiting for a large group to cross the intersection I was stopped at to pass me decked out in their Sunday best outfits.
When I was confirmed, I can assure neither my mother or my aunt (Godmother/Sponsor) would have not allowed me to dress in anything that was not conservative for that day. I wore a nice blue dress with white short sleeves that went below my knees.
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Kouyate42
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I musr admit that in my old church (a Baptist church) I often saw shorts, tight clothing and other things I thought unsuitable for church.
I used to actually feel pretty ashamed, as I used to have to walk past the Catholic church a little further down the road as I walked back home, and people there were wearing far better and indeed MORE clothing than at my church.
Now when I attend church, it’s always something at least a good few inches below the knee, covered head and decently long sleeves. Gets me some funny looks as I’m walking to church but I don’t care.
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Elena_26
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I am under 40 and I veil.
I started doing it as a natural effect of going to the adoration chapel to do my hour.
I felt this urging in my heart to be more reverent while I prayed.
So veiling has really been a beautiful thing for me. After veiling, I realized how beautiful it is to be me, to be a woman. I can’t explain why. I feel empowered by it,and not subjugated. After veiling I determined I needed a revamp to my wardrobe. So I bought trendy, but modest clothing. I add trendy because many women have the false notion that modest is frumpy. I veil with scarves, not a mantilla. It is versatile, both for modesty and prayer.
I started doing it as a natural effect of going to the adoration chapel to do my hour.
I felt this urging in my heart to be more reverent while I prayed.
So veiling has really been a beautiful thing for me. After veiling, I realized how beautiful it is to be me, to be a woman. I can’t explain why. I feel empowered by it,and not subjugated. After veiling I determined I needed a revamp to my wardrobe. So I bought trendy, but modest clothing. I add trendy because many women have the false notion that modest is frumpy. I veil with scarves, not a mantilla. It is versatile, both for modesty and prayer.
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spunjalebi
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I am a Catholic convert, still rather new (last year’s Easter).
Before I was Catholic, I did a lot of research into what headcoverings meant and how they were part of Church custom. It took a lot of discernment for me to get over feminist-leanings that implied that headcoverings made women subservient, or that by me not covering I was considered lowlier than the women who did headcover.
One of the things that drew me to the Church was its emphasis on customs and traditions, and how many of these are done out of a voluntary and devotion-based understanding. It is also a symbol of reverence to me, which is the main reason why I do it.
Headcovering’s meaning has been argued to be a few things. I for one, like that it represents a complementarian view of men and women within the context of creation. Men uncover, and women cover. That is not offensive to me because it is part of the order that God made us all to be part of. Accepting this fact took a lot of time.
Also, our garb can elicit different psychological reactions within our selves. I notice that I pay more attention in church when I cover, and I take more time to care for how I conduct myself because I remember that I am visibly representing reverence.
I think it’s important to remember that headcovering must always be done on a voluntary basis. I know that there have been people here who have tried to use shaming tactics to those who do not cover and don’t believe the “right things” when it comes to covering. Just as them, there are people here who shame those who do cover because when you say that covering lifts up the status of women, instead of trampling on it, women who do not headcover see that as an insult against them, that they are “lower.” That is false.
I also believe part of the resurgence is a part of a small, but culminating, trend of people wanting the Church to go back to more traditional roots.
Before I was Catholic, I did a lot of research into what headcoverings meant and how they were part of Church custom. It took a lot of discernment for me to get over feminist-leanings that implied that headcoverings made women subservient, or that by me not covering I was considered lowlier than the women who did headcover.
One of the things that drew me to the Church was its emphasis on customs and traditions, and how many of these are done out of a voluntary and devotion-based understanding. It is also a symbol of reverence to me, which is the main reason why I do it.
Headcovering’s meaning has been argued to be a few things. I for one, like that it represents a complementarian view of men and women within the context of creation. Men uncover, and women cover. That is not offensive to me because it is part of the order that God made us all to be part of. Accepting this fact took a lot of time.
Also, our garb can elicit different psychological reactions within our selves. I notice that I pay more attention in church when I cover, and I take more time to care for how I conduct myself because I remember that I am visibly representing reverence.
I think it’s important to remember that headcovering must always be done on a voluntary basis. I know that there have been people here who have tried to use shaming tactics to those who do not cover and don’t believe the “right things” when it comes to covering. Just as them, there are people here who shame those who do cover because when you say that covering lifts up the status of women, instead of trampling on it, women who do not headcover see that as an insult against them, that they are “lower.” That is false.
I also believe part of the resurgence is a part of a small, but culminating, trend of people wanting the Church to go back to more traditional roots.
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crazzeto
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This seems to be a common theme amongst woman who choose more reverent and modest dress, and I find it sad. Either you get funny looks, nasty remarks so on and so forth. I think there was even a poster (sadly yes, here on CAF) who blatently suggested that modest woman dress the way they do because they think they’re better than everyone else and like to stick their noses up at the rest of society, and that they’re really… [w]itchs… and some other not so nice things.
I find it sad, so sad that woman who like to dress appropriately for the Lord must go through so much…
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MissRose73
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I am under 40 and also veil when going to Mass and the like. No one has complained with the exception of my mother, and I do not have to attend Mass with her as I am a grown woman.
I am under 40 and I veil.
I started doing it as a natural effect of going to the adoration chapel to do my hour.
I felt this urging in my heart to be more reverent while I prayed.
So veiling has really been a beautiful thing for me. After veiling, I realized how beautiful it is to be me, to be a woman. I can’t explain why. I feel empowered by it,and not subjugated. After veiling I determined I needed a revamp to my wardrobe. So I bought trendy, but modest clothing. I add trendy because many women have the false notion that modest is frumpy. I veil with scarves, not a mantilla. It is versatile, both for modesty and prayer.
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Jim_Roberts
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I am glad that you have kept wearing a veil. Believe it or not, the CHurch NEVER said to stop covering your head.
People did it on their own and still do.
What provokes me is when people wear shorts to mass, especially, when it is air-conditioned. Don’r they realize they are t ruly present in front of God? It’s like beieng in heaven. NO RESPECT.
I wrote to a bishop about it and he could care less.
People did it on their own and still do.
What provokes me is when people wear shorts to mass, especially, when it is air-conditioned. Don’r they realize they are t ruly present in front of God? It’s like beieng in heaven. NO RESPECT.
I wrote to a bishop about it and he could care less.
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vsedriver
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I grew up wearing the little lace top but hated it. Too many bad memories of forgetting it and having to wear a tissue on my head. I would love to wear a hat to church but can’t find any that fit me. I think it is a nice tradition for those who do it.
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Contra_Mundum_1
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The discussion so far has definitely encouraged me to start covering my head in church.
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kozlosap
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I certainly don’t want to beat the dead horse again, BUT, there is not only one (1) appropriate way to dress fir the Lord. Obsessing about what others are wearing smacks of “The Real Housewives of Atlanta”, not of a person who is interested in bringing all people into the Body of Christ. As I stated before, those who veil have every right to do so and those who come to Mass in shorts are also welcome. Just because a woman veils, it does not mean she is trying to “out holy” the woman sitting next to her in the pew who doesn’t veil. It is a private devotion. If I find a nice hat in size 8, I might wear it to mass since that is what I remember my Mom wearing before Vll. I don’t remember any adults wearing a full mantilla veil - that appears to be the preference of young people who chose to veil today. I like that we have the choice to veil or not - when you covered in earlier times, you just did it and it had no connotation of modesty. It was the rule so you followed it. For myself, I seriously doubt that wearing a hat or veil to mass would majestic be a more devout follower of the Lord.
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FloridaJoan
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As a young girl I always wore a chapel veil . Then I got away from wearing anything. Since my pilgrimage to the Holy Land ( 1 and 1/2 yrs ago ) when I spent much time in prayer and adoration, I felt a calling to cover my head when I’m in the "real presence " . Since then, I have been unable to NOT cover . I do, however, feel it is a personal preference; and do not feel I must impose my feelings about covering on others. When I returned to the US from the HL , I initially felt a bit awkward about it, but realized I was covering out of respect for Him and that solved the uneasiness. And, I have noticed a few more ladies covering also. Sometimes I wear a mantilla, or a small chapel veil, and other times a hat or scarf/shawl.
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