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Mirza Mahmood Ahmad, son of the PromisedMessiah 1835-1908, throws light on the fulfillment of the promise of GodAllahYHWH made with Abraham in an essay in his book titled “INTRODUCTION TO THE STUDY OF THE HOLY QURAN”. I think it would be an interesting read for the members in the forum.

When we read Bible we find that God made many promises to the
Patriarch Abraham. He was born in Ur of the Chaldees.
From there he migrated with his father to Canaan, His father
stopped on the way at Haran and died there. On his father’s
death Abraham was commanded by God to leave Haran and go
to Canaan and had the following revelation :

And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee,
and make thy name great ; and thou shalt be a blessing : And I
will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth
thee; and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed
(Genesis 12 : 2-3).
And again (Genesis I 3 : I 5 ) :
“For all the land which thou seest, to thee will I give it, and
to thy seed for ever.”

And again (Genesis 16 : 10-12) :
And the angel of the Lord said unto her (i.e. to Hagar), I will
multiply thy seed exceedingly, that it shall not be numbered for
multitude. And the angel of the Lord said unto her, Behold,
thou art with child, and shalt bear a son, and shalt call his
name Ishmael ; because the Lord hath heard thy affliction.
And he will be a wild man ; his hand will be against every man,
and every man’s hand against him ; and he shall dwell in the
presence of all his brethren.

And again (Genesis 17 : 9-1 I) :
And God said unto Abraham, Thou shalt keep my covenant
therefore, thou, and thy seed after thee in their generations.
This is my covenant which ye shall keep, between me and you
and thy seed after thee ; Every man-child among you shall be
circumcised. And ye shall circumcise the flesh of your fore-
skin ; and it shall be a token of the covenant betwixt me and you.

And (Genesis 17 : 14) :
And the uncircumcised man-child whose flesh of his foreskin
is not circumcised, that soul shall be cut off from his people ;
he hath broken my covenant.

Further on (Genesis 17 : 16), we are told that Abraham’s
wife Sarah also was promised a son :
And I will bless her, and give thee a son also of her ; yea, I
will bless her, and she shall be a mother of nations ; kings of
people shall be of her.
Of the progeny of Sarah (through Isaac) we are told (Genesis
17 : 19) :
And I will establish my covenant with him for an everlasting
covenant, and with his seed after him.

Of Ishmael (Genesis 17 : 20-22) we read :
And as for Ishmael, I have heard thee (refers to Abraham’s
prayer in Genesis 17 : 18-“0 that Ishmael might live before
thee”) : Behold, I have blessed him, and will make him fruitful,
and will multiply him exceedingly ; twelve princes shall he
beget, and I will make him a great nation. But my covenant
will I establish with Isaac, which Sarah shall bear unto thee at
this set time in the next year. And he left off talking with him,
and God went up from Abraham.

Again (Genesis 2 I : I 3) :
“And also of the son of the bondwoman will I make a nation,
because he is thy seed.”
Again of Ishmael, God said to Hagar (Genesis 21 : 17-18) :
For God hath heard the voice of the lad where he is. Arise,
lift up the lad, and hold him in thine hand ; for I will make him
a great nation.

Again (Genesis 21 : 20-21) :
And God was with the lad ; and he grew, and dwelt in the
wilderness, and became an archer. And he dwelt in the wilder-
ness of Paran : and his mother took him a wife out of the land
of Egypt.

From these quotations it is obvious that Abraham had two
sons, Ishmael and Isaac, Ishmael being the elder and Isaac the
younger. God promised Abraham that He would multiply and
bless his progeny. The promise applies to both Isaac and
Ishmael. From the quotations it also appears that Ishmael
lived in the wilderness of Paran, that the land of Canaan was
given over to the sons of Abraham, and that the external sign
of the covenant which God made with Abraham was circum-
cision of all males. All these promises were fulfilled.

The progeny of Isaac multiplied exceedingly. From among them
arose the Prophets, Moses, David, Ezekiel, Daniel and Jesus.
For two thousand years they ruled over Canaan. Their hold
on it was never really abolished, though for a short time it
became weak. After the seventh century A.D., however, the
sons of Isaac, and those who observed the letter of the Law of
Moses had to withdraw from Canaan. The sons of Ishmael,
instead, became its political as well as its spiritual leaders.

Unquote

Thanks

to be continued
 
Hi

Mirza Mahmood Ahmad, son of the PromisedMessiah 1835-1908, throws light on the fulfillment of the promise of GodAllahYHWH made with Abraham in an essay in his book titled “INTRODUCTION TO THE STUDY OF THE HOLY QURAN”. I think it would be an interesting read for the members in the forum.

When we read Bible we find that God made many promises to the
Patriarch Abraham. He was born in Ur of the Chaldees.
From there he migrated with his father to Canaan, His father
stopped on the way at Haran and died there. On his father’s
death Abraham was commanded by God to leave Haran and go
to Canaan and had the following revelation :

And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee,
and make thy name great ; and thou shalt be a blessing : And I
will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth
thee; and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed
(Genesis 12 : 2-3).
And again (Genesis I 3 : I 5 ) :
“For all the land which thou seest, to thee will I give it, and
to thy seed for ever.”

And again (Genesis 16 : 10-12) :
And the angel of the Lord said unto her (i.e. to Hagar), I will
multiply thy seed exceedingly, that it shall not be numbered for
multitude. And the angel of the Lord said unto her, Behold,
thou art with child, and shalt bear a son, and shalt call his
name Ishmael ; because the Lord hath heard thy affliction.
And he will be a wild man ; his hand will be against every man,
and every man’s hand against him ; and he shall dwell in the
presence of all his brethren.

And again (Genesis 17 : 9-1 I) :
And God said unto Abraham, Thou shalt keep my covenant
therefore, thou, and thy seed after thee in their generations.
This is my covenant which ye shall keep, between me and you
and thy seed after thee ; Every man-child among you shall be
circumcised. And ye shall circumcise the flesh of your fore-
skin ; and it shall be a token of the covenant betwixt me and you.

And (Genesis 17 : 14) :
And the uncircumcised man-child whose flesh of his foreskin
is not circumcised, that soul shall be cut off from his people ;
he hath broken my covenant.

Further on (Genesis 17 : 16), we are told that Abraham’s
wife Sarah also was promised a son :
And I will bless her, and give thee a son also of her ; yea, I
will bless her, and she shall be a mother of nations ; kings of
people shall be of her.
Of the progeny of Sarah (through Isaac) we are told (Genesis
17 : 19) :
And I will establish my covenant with him for an everlasting
covenant, and with his seed after him.

Of Ishmael (Genesis 17 : 20-22) we read :
And as for Ishmael, I have heard thee (refers to Abraham’s
prayer in Genesis 17 : 18-“0 that Ishmael might live before
thee”) : Behold, I have blessed him, and will make him fruitful,
and will multiply him exceedingly ; twelve princes shall he
beget, and I will make him a great nation. But my covenant
will I establish with Isaac, which Sarah shall bear unto thee at
this set time in the next year. And he left off talking with him,
and God went up from Abraham.

Again (Genesis 2 I : I 3) :
“And also of the son of the bondwoman will I make a nation,
because he is thy seed.”
Again of Ishmael, God said to Hagar (Genesis 21 : 17-18) :
For God hath heard the voice of the lad where he is. Arise,
lift up the lad, and hold him in thine hand ; for I will make him
a great nation.

Again (Genesis 21 : 20-21) :
And God was with the lad ; and he grew, and dwelt in the
wilderness, and became an archer. And he dwelt in the wilder-
ness of Paran : and his mother took him a wife out of the land
of Egypt.

From these quotations it is obvious that Abraham had two
sons, Ishmael and Isaac, Ishmael being the elder and Isaac the
younger. God promised Abraham that He would multiply and
bless his progeny. The promise applies to both Isaac and
Ishmael. From the quotations it also appears that Ishmael
lived in the wilderness of Paran, that the land of Canaan was
given over to the sons of Abraham, and that the external sign
of the covenant which God made with Abraham was circum-
cision of all males. All these promises were fulfilled.

The progeny of Isaac multiplied exceedingly. From among them
arose the Prophets, Moses, David, Ezekiel, Daniel and Jesus.
For two thousand years they ruled over Canaan. Their hold
on it was never really abolished, though for a short time it
became weak. After the seventh century A.D., however, the
sons of Isaac, and those who observed the letter of the Law of
Moses had to withdraw from Canaan. The sons of Ishmael,
instead, became its political as well as its spiritual leaders.

Unquote

Thanks

to be continued
Why would we want to read something promoting a heresy? Would you have anything that would help us defeat Islam and bring Muslims to the Eternal Salvation of Christ?
 
Hi

Mirza Mahmood Ahmad, son of the PromisedMessiah 1835-1908, throws light on the fulfillment of the promise of GodAllahYHWH made with Abraham in an essay in his book titled “INTRODUCTION TO THE STUDY OF THE HOLY QURAN”. I think it would be an interesting read for the members in the forum.

When we read Bible we find that God made many promises to the
Patriarch Abraham. He was born in Ur of the Chaldees.
From there he migrated with his father to Canaan, His father
stopped on the way at Haran and died there. On his father’s
death Abraham was commanded by God to leave Haran and go
to Canaan and had the following revelation :

And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee,
and make thy name great ; and thou shalt be a blessing : And I
will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth
thee; and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed
(Genesis 12 : 2-3).
And again (Genesis I 3 : I 5 ) :
“For all the land which thou seest, to thee will I give it, and
to thy seed for ever.”…

From these quotations it is obvious that Abraham had two
sons, Ishmael and Isaac, Ishmael being the elder and Isaac the
younger. God promised Abraham that He would multiply and
bless his progeny. The promise applies to both Isaac and
Ishmael.
No. Didn’t you understand?

Genesis 17 : 18-“0 that Ishmael might live before
thee”) : Behold, I have blessed him, and will make him fruitful, and will multiply him exceedingly ; twelve princes shall he beget, and I will make him a great nation. But my covenant will I establish with Isaac,
which Sarah shall bear unto thee at this set time in the next year. And he left off talking with him,
and God went up from Abraham.
From the quotations it also appears that Ishmael lived in the wilderness of Paran, that the land of Canaan was given over to the sons of Abraham, and that the external sign of the covenant which God made with Abraham was circumcision of all males. All these promises were fulfilled.The progeny of Isaac multiplied exceedingly. From among them
arose the Prophets, Moses, David, Ezekiel, Daniel and Jesus.
For two thousand years they ruled over Canaan. Their hold
on it was never really abolished, though for a short time it
became weak. After the seventh century A.D., however, the
sons of Isaac, and those who observed the letter of the Law of Moses had to withdraw from Canaan.
No. Do you not understand that we, Christians are sons of Abraham:

Galatians 3
7 Know ye therefore, that they who are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham. 8 And the scripture, foreseeing, that God justifieth the Gentiles by faith, told unto Abraham before: In thee shall all nations be blessed. 9 Therefore they that are of faith, shall be blessed with faithful Abraham.
The sons of Ishmael, instead, became its political as well as its spiritual leaders.
Actually, Arabs and Muslims can’t trace their roots to Ismael. That is a myth perpetuated by Mohammed but which, as usual, he couldn’t prove.

Arabian myths:

bible.ca/islam/islam-myths-arabs-descendants-of-ishmael.htm

Sincerely,

De Maria
 
Hi De Maria,

I agree with most of you write. Here goes my thoughts… :twocents:

Ishmael was the son of Abraham (Gen 16:7-12).
Isaac, too, was the the son of Abraham (Gen 17:19).

Ishmael was thought to be the promised son (Gen 17:18), but instead, he became the father of the Arabs (Gen 25:12-16,18; Ga 4:25).

Isaac was the promised son (Gen 35:10-11). What a crushing blow to his older brother Ishmael! The hostilities between them started (Gen 25:18); a family feud, fuelled by jealousy - a situation borne of a lack in the promises of God.

One may argue that this family fued, which started 4000 years ago, has brewed into a war surrounding the land of Palestine.

But, just to throw a spanner in the works, Christians are the true descendants of Abraham (Ga 3:6-29).
 
Why would we want to read something promoting a heresy? Would you have anything that would help us defeat Islam and bring Muslims to the Eternal Salvation of Christ?
It’s the only reason paarsurrey’s here. He’s stated he’s not here to debate. Obviously there’s a spam loop-hole or something he’s working on.
 
😃 too funny.
Check out how on How will unity finally be achieved?
forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?p=2352771#post2352771

He’s said the exact same thing three times on one page!
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paarsurrey:
I am an Ahmadi – a peaceful faith in Islam bridging gaps between faiths/denominations/religions/agnostics
The West, as I understand, due to certain disinformation has seen only MullahIslam or MullahShariah; the true face of Muhammad’sIslam and PromisedMessiahImamMahdi’sIslam is yet hidden from their eyes, which is truly speaking only peaceful.
Spam! Spam! Spam! Spam! Wonderful Spam!
 
It’s the only reason paarsurrey’s here. He’s stated he’s not here to debate. Obviously there’s a spam loop-hole or something he’s working on.
😃

If I see “Jesus died in India” on my screen one more time… :eek:
 
Isn’t there something along the lines of if you say something long enough, and often enough, people will believe it?
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Hi

Continued from post # 1:

Mirza Mahmood Ahmad, son of the PromisedMessiah 1835-1908, throws light on the fulfillment of the promise of GodAllahYHWH made with Abraham in an essay in his book titled “INTRODUCTION TO THE STUDY OF THE HOLY QURAN”.

The fact that the sons of Israel had to surrender the land of
Canaan shows that they had become unworthy of the promise
which God had made to them through Abraham. This pro-
mise was that Israel would remain in possession of this land
until the Last Day, and the promise was true. The Last Day
in the divine promise, therefore, cannot mean the day which is
to mark the end of the world, but the day on which the Law of
Moses was to be superseded by the promulgation of a new Law
for the guidance of the world. I n the language of divine revela-
tion the advent of a new Law is often described as the birth
of a new heaven and a new earth.

Just as a new heaven and a
new earth cannot be created without a large-scale upheaval -
usually associated with the Last Day-so the establishment of a
new Law must entail a large-scale upheaval of the people who
receive that Law. Therefore, when the prophecy said that the
sons of Israel would retain their hold over Canaan until the Last
Day, it meant that their hold would continue until the advent of
a new Law-giving Prophet. In the utterances of David we
have a hint of this meaning of the prophecy.

The promise contained in Genesis that Israel would retain possession of
Canaan until the Last Day is expressed differently. Thus in
Psalms (37 : 29) we read :
“The righteous shall inherit the land, and dwell therein for
ever.”

The promise of eternal possession is not for Israel as such but
for the righteous. This utterance of David, in fact, was a
clear warning that the days of Israel’s dominance were num-
bered. The Prophet seemed to point out that the divine pro-
mise, after a time, was to be understood not in a racial but in a
spiritual sense ; that the sons of Ishmael were going to inherit
the promises made to Abraham by inheriting the truth and a
new covenant was going to be initiated through them.

If our interpretation of the prophecy is not correct, then the question
is, Why did God make the sons of Ishmael-and believers in
the Message of the Qurari-dominant in Palestine ? The
prophecy was quite clear. The sons of Isaac were to hold
Palestine until the Last Day. The question is, Why did they
not ? Why did God allow a transfer of political power from
the sons of Isaac to the sons of Ishmael ? If the transfer had
lasted for a short time, it would have made no difference to the
prophecy.

The rise and fall in the fortunes of nations are
a common phenomenon. But the transfer of which we speak
proved a permanent one. More than one thousand three
hundred years have passed, and Palestine is still in the possession
of Muslims, the sons of Ishmael. European powers and the
U.S.A. are trying hard to alter this, but so far, at any rate,
they have not succeeded.

If at all they succeed in their
designs, the success is bound to be short-lived. Either the
new Israelite settlers will become converted to Islam and regain
possession of Palestine through a new covenant ; or they will
have to quit Palestine once again. Palestine is for those who
keep the covenant which Abraham made with God.

Christians, no doubt, claim to fulfil the covenant. But they forget that the
covenant lays down an important external sign. That sign is
circumcision of the male population. Only Ishmaelites have
kept the sign both before and since the revelation of the
Quran.

In short, the prophecy of Abraham promised blessings to
both Isaac and Ishmael. According to this promise, the sons
of Isaac were established over Canaan and the sons of Ishmael
over Arabia. But when the Last Day arrived for the sons of
Isaac, then, in terms of the prophecy of David, the promise was
transferred from Israel to Ishmael. The claim of Israel was
now only a racial claim.

The claim of Ishmael was spiritual.
On the basis of their racial claim the sons of Ishmael held
Mecca and the territory around (2 : 125-29). On the basis of their
spiritual claim they added Canaan to their possessions after the.
religious deterioration of Israel.

Unquote

Thanks
 
Hi

Continued from post # 1:

Mirza Mahmood Ahmad, son of the PromisedMessiah 1835-1908, throws light on the fulfillment of the promise of GodAllahYHWH made with Abraham in an essay in his book titled “INTRODUCTION TO THE STUDY OF THE HOLY QURAN”.

The fact that the sons of Israel had to surrender the land of
Canaan shows that they had become unworthy of the promise
which God had made to them through Abraham. This pro-
mise was that Israel would remain in possession of this land
until the Last Day, and the promise was true. The Last Day
in the divine promise, therefore, cannot mean the day which is
to mark the end of the world, but the day on which the Law of
Moses was to be superseded by the promulgation of a new Law
for the guidance of the world. I n the language of divine revela-
tion the advent of a new Law is often described as the birth
of a new heaven and a new earth.
No actually. St Paul explained very clearly that the son of Abraham to whom the prophecy pertained was neither Isaac nor Ishmael. It was Jesus:

Galatians 3

6Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness. 7Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.
8And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed…14That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

Galatians 4:7
Wherefore thou art no more a servant, but a son; and if a son, then an heir of God through Christ.
Just as a new heaven and a
new earth cannot be created without a large-scale upheaval -
usually associated with the Last Day-so the establishment of a
new Law must entail a large-scale upheaval of the people who
receive that Law. Therefore, when the prophecy said that the
sons of Israel would retain their hold over Canaan until the Last
Day, it meant that their hold would continue until the advent of
a new Law-giving Prophet. In the utterances of David we
have a hint of this meaning of the prophecy.
Yes, the coming of the Son of David, Jesus Christ the Son of God, of whom Solomon is a foreshadowing.
The promise contained in Genesis that Israel would retain possession of
Canaan until the Last Day is expressed differently. Thus in
Psalms (37 : 29) we read :
“The righteous shall inherit the land, and dwell therein for
ever.”
Again, a prophecy of the heirs of God whom were born by faith in Christ.
The promise of eternal possession is not for Israel as such but
for the righteous. This utterance of David, in fact, was a
clear warning that the days of Israel’s dominance were num-
bered. The Prophet seemed to point out that the divine pro-
mise, after a time, was to be understood not in a racial but in a
spiritual sense ; that the sons of Ishmael were going to inherit
the promises made to Abraham by inheriting the truth and a
new covenant was going to be initiated through them.
The sons of Ismael is a racially based statement. The sons of Ismael did not inherit Isaac’s promises but their own. They existed only for 12 generations and have been lost to history since.

There is no evidence tying the sons of Ishmael to Mohammed or the Arabs whatsoever.
CONT’D
 
CONT’D
If our interpretation of the prophecy is not correct, then the question
is, Why did God make the sons of Ishmael-and believers in
the Message of the Qurari-dominant in Palestine ?
God did not make them dominant but permitted this heresy to exist in punishment for your sins. If you believe a lie, you are permitted a lie to believe in. God does no harm to your freewill. Your sins are your punishment when you embrace them.
The
prophecy was quite clear. The sons of Isaac were to hold
Palestine until the Last Day. The question is, Why did they
not ? Why did God allow a transfer of political power from
the sons of Isaac to the sons of Ishmael ? If the transfer had
lasted for a short time, it would have made no difference to the
prophecy.
God makes quite clear in Scripture that He will permit the sins of Israel to catch up to them but in the end He will rescue them from their sins:

Jeremiah 3:6
The LORD said also unto me in the days of Josiah the king, Hast thou seen that which backsliding Israel hath done? she is gone up upon every high mountain and under every green tree, and there hath played the harlot.
7And I said after she had done all these things, Turn thou unto me. But she returned not. And her treacherous sister Judah saw it.
8And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed adultery I had put her away, and given her a bill of divorce; yet her treacherous sister Judah feared not, but went and played the harlot also.
9And it came to pass through the lightness of her whoredom, that she defiled the land, and committed adultery with stones and with stocks.
10And yet for all this her treacherous sister Judah hath not turned unto me with her whole heart, but feignedly, saith the LORD.
11And the LORD said unto me, The backsliding Israel hath justified herself more than treacherous Judah.
12Go and proclaim these words toward the north, and say, Return, thou backsliding Israel, saith the LORD; and I will not cause mine anger to fall upon you: for I am merciful, saith the LORD, and I will not keep anger for ever.
13Only acknowledge thine iniquity, that thou hast transgressed against the LORD thy God, and hast scattered thy ways to the strangers under every green tree, and ye have not obeyed my voice, saith the LORD.
14Turn, O backsliding children, saith the LORD; for I am married unto you: and I will take you one of a city, and two of a family, and I will bring you to Zion:
15And I will give you pastors according to mine heart, which shall feed you with knowledge and understanding.
16And it shall come to pass, when ye be multiplied and increased in the land, in those days, saith the LORD, they shall say no more, The ark of the covenant of the LORD: neither shall it come to mind: neither shall they remember it; neither shall they visit it; neither shall that be done any more.
17At that time they shall call Jerusalem the throne of the LORD; and all the nations shall be gathered unto it, to the name of the LORD, to Jerusalem: neither shall they walk any more after the imagination of their evil heart.
The rise and fall in the fortunes of nations are
a common phenomenon. But the transfer of which we speak
proved a permanent one. More than one thousand three
hundred years have passed, and Palestine is still in the possession
of Muslims, the sons of Ishmael. European powers and the
U.S.A. are trying hard to alter this, but so far, at any rate,
they have not succeeded.
The land is a distraction. We Christians are there protecting innocent lives and working to promote justice. For our brethren and yours to live peacefully together. It is obvious that in turn, your brethren seek all or nothing. Either they possess the land or no one will live in peace.

As for Christians of all denominations. We, ourselves, however, are in search of our spiritual homeland. We seek union with God. The land is nothing but a distraction.
If at all they succeed in their
designs, the success is bound to be short-lived. Either the
new Israelite settlers will become converted to Islam and regain
possession of Palestine through a new covenant ; or they will
have to quit Palestine once again. Palestine is for those who
keep the covenant which Abraham made with God.

As usual, the Quran shows its earthly roots. Muslims will convert to Christ or perish in their sins.

CONT’D
 
CONT’D
Christians, no doubt, claim to fulfil the covenant. But they forget that the
covenant lays down an important external sign. That sign is
circumcision of the male population. Only Ishmaelites have
kept the sign both before and since the revelation of the
Quran.
The law of works has been fulfilled on the Cross. The internal sign, to circumcise ones heart in Baptism is the sign that saves:

Deuteronomy 10:16
Circumcise
therefore the foreskin of your heart, and be no more stiffnecked.

**Colossians 2:12
**11In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ: 12Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.

1 Peter 3:21
The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:
In short, the prophecy of Abraham promised blessings to
both Isaac and Ishmael. According to this promise, the sons
of Isaac were established over Canaan and the sons of Ishmael
over Arabia. But when the Last Day arrived for the sons of
Isaac, then, in terms of the prophecy of David, the promise was
transferred from Israel to Ishmael.
Never happened except in your imagination.
The claim of Israel was
now only a racial claim.
The claim of Ishmael was spiritual.
On the basis of their racial claim the sons of Ishmael held
Mecca and the territory around (2 : 125-29). On the basis of their
spiritual claim they added Canaan to their possessions after the.
religious deterioration of Israel.
God Himself prophesied that Israel would be punished and He prophesied that Israel would be redeemed. No mention of Ishmael. Ishmael in fact, was fulfilled his promise of 12 generations of power and then his descendants faded away. There is no evidence connecting Ishmael with Mohammed or any other Muslim except in their blind faith in the claims of Mohammed.

Sincerely,

De Maria
 
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