The Road to Nicaea

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The Road to Nicaea
  • The Council of Nicaea strove to answer one of the central questions of the Christian faith, but it also proved that theology is never a tidy business.*
    By John Anthony McGuckin
Graffiti emblazoned on walls, a vicious war of pamphlets, riots in the streets, lawsuits, catchy songs of ridicule … It’s hard for modern Christians to imagine how such public turmoil could be created by an argument between theologians—or how God could work through the messiness of human conflict to bring the church to an understanding of truth.

To us, in retrospect, the Council of Nicaea is a veritable mountain in the landscape of the early church…

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The argument began innocently enough with a regular seminar that Alexander, the archbishop of Alexandria, was accustomed to hold with his senior clergy. Alexander was a follower of Origen who, a century beforehand, had laid the basis for a vast mystical understanding of the relationship of the divine Logos to the Eternal Father. Logos was the word the Greek Bible had used to translate “Divine Wisdom,” and it was also widely used in Greek philosophical circles to signify the divine power immanent within the world. To many Christians, it seemed a marvelous way to talk about the Eternal Son of God and became almost a synonym for the Son.

Like Origen, Alexander saw the Logos as sharing the divine attributes of the Father, especially that of eternity. The Logos, he argued, had been “born of God before the ages.” Since God the Father had decided to use the Logos as the medium and agent of all creation (e.g. John 1:1, Ephesians 1:4, Colossians 1:15-17), it followed that the Son-Logos pre-existed creation. Since time was a consequence of creation, the Son pre-existed all time and was thus eternal like the Father, and indeed his timelessness was one of the attributes that manifested him as the divine Son, worthy of the worship of the church. Since he was eternal there could be no “before” or “after” in him.

It was inappropriate, therefore, to suggest that there was ever a time when the Son did not exist. God was eternally a Father of a Son, Alexander argued, and just as the Father had always existed, so too the Son had always existed and was thus known to be “God from God.”…

…One of Alexander’s senior priests, the presbyter Arius, was scandalized at the direction in which his bishop was taking theological language. Arius, who had charge of the large parish of Baucalis in the city’s dockland, had also been an intellectual disciple of Origen but had taken a different strand of that early theologian’s variegated legacy.

As was typical among third-century thinkers, Origen had a deeply ingrained sense of the absolute primacy of God over all other beings. This meant that the Father was superior to the Son in all respects—in terms of essence, attributes, power, and quality…

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Constantine decided to use the occasion of the 20th anniversary of his claiming of the throne (an event that sparked a civil war), which would be celebrated in 325, to help settle the embarrassing dispute among his allies, the bishops. He felt (rightly) that their disarray was compromising his desire to demonstrate that he had effectively “brought peace” to the eastern territories.

So it was that he summoned bishops to his private lakeside palace at Nicaea (“Victory City”) in Asia Minor (now Iznik in Turkey), offering to pay all their expenses, to supply them with the traditional “gifts” that followed an invitation to the court, and even to afford them the prestigious use of the official transport system, a privilege which had always been strictly reserved for officers of state. The buzz this created was all the more remarkable among the bishops of the East, who only a year or so before had lived under a persecutor’s oppression. Though Constantine envisaged a truly international meeting of minds, in fact very few Latin bishops attended—only representative delegations from the leading sees such as Rome.

The council opened on June 19. Tradition has it that 318 clergy were in attendance (a Greek number-cipher for the cross), but many modern historians think that 250 is a more accurate figure. As the meeting opened, Constantine took his place on the imperial throne and greeted his guests…
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Thanks for this article.

While discussing the Nicene Council, we should always keep in mind that Arius’ thesis and teachings were an innovation despite the traditional Christian doctrine of the Triune God. Arius was the one that attempted to re-interpret basic Christian tenets concerning Logos’ nature whilst Anathasius simply defended what Arius tried to undermine. History testifies to the fact that the major heresies the Church fought prior to Arius were based on the denial of Jesus’ humanity rather than of His divinity.
 
Thanks for this article.

While discussing the Nicene Council, we should always keep in mind that Arius’ thesis and teachings were an innovation despite the traditional Christian doctrine of the Triune God. Arius was the one that attempted to re-interpret basic Christian tenets concerning Logos’ nature whilst Anathasius simply defended what Arius tried to undermine. History testifies to the fact that the major heresies the Church fought prior to Arius were based on the denial of Jesus’ humanity rather than of His divinity.
I think Arius concept was a strong reaction to Sebellianism. Then he would not recant to Alexander. I often wonder how much of the 1st Eccumenical council was because of the Activities of the Bishop of Cordoba?
 
It’s great what happened in Nicea, even though it wasn’t always “nice” right before it and even after it!
How the Incarnation of the Word of God made human, a divine person with two natures, one divine and the other human, was then defined…
Even though it can’t be comprehended totally by our finite minds, at least we are able to believe what the Holy Spirit revealed and helped the Holy Fathers of the Church define and to say a lucid Amen to that.
Of course, many people even nowadays have great trouble accepting this doctrine as well as that the Trinity (which I believe was also defined in the same Council), a number of them raised as Christians but maybe loosely instructed or hardly paying attention…
And of course, the Jews and the Muslims don’t accept these doctrines: God to them is One, not Three, not even three in One.
This is an indication that without God’s help, they are quite impossible to fathom even in part and find acceptable and TRUE!
Blessed be God for His grace at work in love through His Church!
 
It’s great what happened in Nicea, even though it wasn’t always “nice” right before it and even after it!
How the Incarnation of the Word of God made human, a divine person with two natures, one divine and the other human, was then defined…
Even though it can’t be comprehended totally by our finite minds, at least we are able to believe what the Holy Spirit revealed and helped the Holy Fathers of the Church define and to say a lucid Amen to that.
Of course, many people even nowadays have great trouble accepting this doctrine as well as that the Trinity (which I believe was also defined in the same Council), a number of them raised as Christians but maybe loosely instructed or hardly paying attention…
And of course, the Jews and the Muslims don’t accept these doctrines: God to them is One, not Three, not even three in One.
This is an indication that without God’s help, they are quite impossible to fathom even in part and find acceptable and TRUE!
Blessed be God for His grace at work in love through His Church!
Anybody else get the feeling of some evangelically biased undertones in that article? Like the outcome of the council may have been wrong? Not that Christianity Today has an evangelical bent or anything. :rolleyes:
 
Anybody else get the feeling of some evangelically biased undertones in that article? Like the outcome of the council may have been wrong? Not that Christianity Today has an evangelical bent or anything. :rolleyes:
In which way? Protestants and Catholics, from what I know, do agree on the teachings of Nicaea, don’t they?
The Protestants would say yes to it, according to Fr. Benedict J. Groschel.
 
In which way? Protestants and Catholics, from what I know, do agree on the teachings of Nicaea, don’t they?
The Protestants would say yes to it, according to Fr. Benedict J. Groschel.
It seemed to me that they were casting doubt on the validity of the outcome, as if both teachings had equal traditional validity.
 
It seemed to me that they were casting doubt on the validity of the outcome, as if both teachings had equal traditional validity.
I think that the author was trying to be fair, and presented the perspective of both sides for our understanding. It is not necessary for him to tell us whether the outcome is correct, we are able to determine that for ourselves.

The question had not been addressed head-on before that point in time. What the church had was liturgical practices that prayed to Christ “as if to God”. This is the widespread inherited tradition and ultimately the bishops confirmed this, but they had to be able to explain this preexisting traditional belief in order to silence the critics, who believed that they were defending the Monarchy and Absolute Oneness of God. These too were standing firmly in the Judeo-Christian tradition.

It is not surpising the bishops were divided over the question, and more than a few were of two minds on it for a good part of the time.

We are of the opinion that the decisions which came out of Nicea were correct. Each of the Apostolic churches reaching back into antiquity:
  • The Assyrian Church of the East,
  • The Miaphysite churches of the Syrians, Armenian and Copts,
  • The Diaphysite churches of the Orthodox Byzantine-Greek tradition, and
  • The Diaphysite churches of the Roman Catholic tradition
    …are all in agreement with the findings of the Council of Nicea.
For the most part, the bishops and priests following the opinion of Arius were folded back into the church within a few decades and affirmed the higher Christology of the Orthodox. A hard core of resistant churchmen continued separately for a couple of centuries more, and eventually disappeared.
 
For the most part, the bishops and priests following the opinion of Arius were folded back into the church within a few decades and affirmed the higher Christology of the Orthodox. A hard core of resistant churchmen continued separately for a couple of centuries more, and eventually disappeared.
Arius came out of his tomb in the late 19th century, possessed Russell’s soul, and fathered the cult named “Jehovah’s Witnesses”. 😉
 
In which way? Protestants and Catholics, from what I know, do agree on the teachings of Nicaea, don’t they?
The Protestants would say yes to it, according to Fr. Benedict J. Groschel.
Yes, Protestants generally would agree with the outcome of the Council of Nicea; but unlike Catholics and Orthodox, they wouldn’t see it as having any authority. (At least that’s true for the Evangelical Protestants. Lutherans might see it as having an authority of sorts.)
 
Yes, Protestants generally would agree with the outcome of the Council of Nicea; but unlike Catholics and Orthodox, they wouldn’t see it as having any authority. (At least that’s true for the Evangelical Protestants. Lutherans might see it as having an authority of sorts.)
We would see it as reflecting authority because it affirms the teachings of Sacred Scripture. It was inerrant in its statements. The difference would be we wouldn’t see it as being inherently infallible.
 
Arius came out of his tomb in the late 19th century, possessed Russell’s soul, and fathered the cult named “Jehovah’s Witnesses”. 😉
It’s true that the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society teaches the resurrected error of Arius. I believe that this opinion may also extend to their sister communities of Adventists, but I am not really positive about that.

But these are not connected to the Arians of old, who had an episcopate, priesthood and Holy Eucharist like the rest of us. They existed within the structure of the church as a party of opinion.
 
We would see it as reflecting authority because it affirms the teachings of Sacred Scripture. It was inerrant in its statements. The difference would be we wouldn’t see it as being inherently infallible.
That’s what I was afraid of.

Still, “there’s more that unites us than divides us”. 🙂
 
That’s what I was afraid of.

Still, “there’s more that unites us than divides us”. 🙂
Oh come now…nothing to be afraid of. We’re harmless fuzzballs, really…Well, you know, I am sure the Anabaptists might disagree, ahem, but, yeah, uh, beer and brat?
 
It’s true that the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society teaches the resurrected error of Arius. I believe that this opinion may also extend to their sister communities of Adventists, but I am not really positive about that.

But these are not connected to the Arians of old, who had an episcopate, priesthood and Holy Eucharist like the rest of us. They existed within the structure of the church as a party of opinion.
Sure. The original Arians did not even know the notion of Reformation. 😉
 
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