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Shannon46
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I like praying the Rosary.
Well first, it’s an expression of faith. You don’t have to pray the rosary any more than you ave to jog for exercise. It’s one method of prayer. It’s not for everyone all the time. You may be called to a different form of devotion or service. Ther are thousands if not millions of options out there from charitablemwork to opus dei to charismatic movement to 3rd degree orders, to attending theology school, to working in a ministry.I don’t feel comfortable saying so many Hail Marys and my mind drifts off.
I noticed that these quoted are all modern Popes, none earlier than Vatican Council I.Perhaps one should view what our Popes have said about the Rosary…
This is true.“To pray unceasingly” is a command given to Christians by Paul in Thessalonians.
I used to be that way, And then as time went on, and I continued to pray something happened. My Life Changed.I don’t feel comfortable saying so many Hail Marys and my mind drifts off.
In case you are interested. Here is a nice article on praying the Liturgy of the Hours/Divine Office.I don’t feel comfortable saying so many Hail Marys and my mind drifts off.
This is probably some of the best advice that has been given in this thread so far.To my knowledge, the only form of the prayer the Church has ever mandated is the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass. Even the Divine Office/Liturgy of the Hours, which is often referred to as the “Prayer of the Church” is not required unless you have received holy orders or are part of a religious order/congregation, etc. For someone really looking to step up their prayer life, the Divine Office is probably a good place to start.
The Rosary, while it does have many recommending it, including various popes, remains at the status of a private devotion and has never been required. Even in the Order of Preachers with St. Dominic receiving the Rosary from Our Lady, I have seen nothing of a requirement to pray it at this stage of my formation.
This may come off the wrong way but I hope it doesn’t. Unfortunately, I find that many seem to shove devotion to Our Lady and the Rosary down people’s throat when they admit to having concerns about it. It’s like they cannot imagine someone having a problem with it, even though many do. Rather than backing off a bit and taking it slowly and allowing devotion to develop over time, they try to force it. This does not work. Devotion implies knowledge, understanding, and dedication. Those things cannot be manufactured by telling someone to do it. They come as a product of time. If someone is having difficulty with the Rosary and finds that at this time, it is not leading them to Christ, then they probably should either A) examine how they are praying it. And if that does not improve things then they should B) stop for a time. I cannot imagine Our Lady, in all of her love for us, wishing us to do any sort of devotion to her at the expense of worshiping her Son. The bottom line is that if you do the Rosary and you are not able to focus on Christ then it isn’t Mary that you are praying to. She wants us to know and love Jesus and she would never do anything to get in the way of that. She loves us and Him, too much.
To the OP. I suggest backing down for a while. Do a Hail Mary now and then. Do a Hail Holy Queen once and a while. Try to establish a good prayer life outside of Marian devotion. Keep a good ratio of prayers directly to the Blessed Trinity as compared to intercessions to saints, Mary or otherwise. While you are doing these, try to ask her to lead you to her Son and to help to understand His will for you. If you are not doing so already, I suggest praying the Liturgy of the Hours, perhaps starting with night prayers once a day. It is very short in comparison to the morning or evening prayer and is relatively easy to learn. Plus, the night prayer typically ends with a short Marian devotion, so that will be helping you along the path to increasing that should you desire. Plus, it has the benefit of being done by the whole Church at set times so you will be joining your prayers with theirs. Also, since it prayers directly with Sacred Scripture, you will praying with God’s own words. After several months of this, try doing one decade of the Rosary and really focus on Christ while you do it. See what happens and take it from there.
God bless you!
Actually this is untrue. If you believe what the church states or not about this is a completely different matter. I would assume at this point you haven’t re-searched where the mysteries of the Rosary come from, or you do-not believe what the Church states about them?seek out where they are specifically given in scripture (you won’t find the assumption or coronation of Mary there, though.)
Hi Gary,As to what is required “VERY LITTLE”. And if this is the Equation one is following, lets be serious here and stop talking falsely, they certainly are not going to be praying the Divine Office/Liturgy of the Hours.
Very Little or what is “required” doesn’t even reside in the reality of the Divine Office.
However as stated; “Nevertheless, if men in our century, with its derisive pride, reject the holy Rosary, there is an innumerable multitude of holy men of every age and every condition who have always held it dear. They have recited it with great devotion, and in every moment they have used it as a powerful weapon to put the demons to flight, to preserve the integrity of life, to acquire virtue more easily, and, in a word, to attain real peace among men.” -Pope Pius XI
The bottom line to all this is one must first acknowledge a daily prayer habit is of most importance. What you prefer to choose may well begin with a simple set as daily prayer’s as I would assume most of us did as children? And this becomes like anything else a daily positive spiritual habit. On a world physical level it equates to brushing you teeth and washing which is to maintain the physical, so then, you must also maintain the Spiritual.
Where you end up will hopefully be at the Divine Office. However more realistic is what you WILL DO daily. What you will not do, leaves you doing nothing.
Peace
Second Vatican Council said:“Christ Jesus, high priest of the new and eternal covenant, taking human nature, introduced into this earthly exile that hymn which is sung throughout all ages in the halls of heaven. He joins the entire community of mankind to Himself, associating it with His own singing of this canticle of divine praise.”
“when this wonderful song of praise is rightly performed by priests and others who are deputed for this purpose by the Church’s ordinance, or by the faithful praying together with the priest in the approved form, then it is truly the voice of the bride addressed to her bridegroom: It is the very prayer which Christ Himself, together with His body, addresses to the Father.”
Thanks. I have been in the exact same place as the OP, unfortunately.This is probably some of the best advice that has been given in this thread so far.
Good advice…I’d really suggest backing off it for awhile, but learning more about the rosary, starting with the history, and keeping an open mind while you’re casually learning more about it. Devotion can’t really be forced, either one particular devotion resonates with you or it doesn’t at the time. If, after learning about the rosary, it appeals to you, try saying it in a group; the mysteries are announced at the beginning of each decade, and frequently a short subject for meditation during that particular mystery is given. Also, you might want to take a look at the list of the mysteries, and then seek out where they are specifically given in scripture (you won’t find the assumption or coronation of Mary there, though.)
Great I’m familiar with it, and thanks, however its has nothing to do with what I stated:thumbsup:I say the night prayers of the Divine Office daily. You don’t even need the book or know how to use them. Just go here for free, click on night prayer or whatever prayer you wish to do, and follow along. Heck, you can do it with a recording if you are concerned about doing it right.
divineoffice.org/
How so? If you cannot do the lesser how will you do the more? Is it logic?Good advice…
losh, it is true one does not need to say the Rosary. However the Rosary is about the Life of Christ our Lord.I’m going to echo some thoughts here.
You don’t have to pray the Rosary. Those who don’t pray it probably don’t have the understanding of those who do pray it (and vice versa) but it’s never been mandated. Exhorted, encouraged, strongly recommended, sure, but it is not sound teaching to state that the Rosary is necessary for salvation.
That said, it’s a good discipline. You need a prayer life and ordinarily can’t expect to reach Heaven without one, and one of the beauties of formal prayer is that you have true and trustworthy words to say and a reason to spend time in prayer. With informal and improvised prayer, you may not always have that. Your prayer life should include formal and informal prayer, as well as periods of silence (prayer is speaking as well as listening).
Where I am - and I don’t participate in any form of Marian veneration - is reconciling what amounts to distrust of the Church over Marian teaching with the desire to be obedient and live piously. I have very great difficulties with Marian teaching and Marian devotion, so I focus on the Eucharist and devotions to Christ. I keep a daily devotion to the Holy Trinity and I’ve been reading and meditating upon “The Imitation of Christ” for a year and a half now.
If we were to poll all lay Catholics about devotional life, we’d probably find the Rosary is the most commonly practiced. Sacred Heart would be up there too but I suspect the top 10 would be specific to Mary rather than specific to Christ. That does make me uncomfortable, and if it makes you uncomfortable as well, be an example and pick up a devotion to Christ.