The Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Sexual Abuse

[Rau]

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So as in North America, the number of recent cases is actually extremely low. Of course even one case is tragic. But that the vast majority were in the 70s and 80s suggests the Church was already taking steps to address the situation.

The term ‘massive drop off’ is …

41 cases reported in the 2010s
10 alleged perpetrators in the 2010s
Around (?) 25 claims from schools in the 2010s

From these figures there is still a criminal issue that needs addressing. We still have child victims .

The Royal Commission is there to address this.

The Commission is rather oriented to reviewing what happened across a number of institutions where sex abuse of children has occurred and develop recommendations to limit the risk of further occurrences and to facilitate justice and fair compensation for those abused.

The drop off over time is certainly very large and the Church has improved management of child safety over many years. But clearly many things must be changed, and the commission will no doubt make recommendations to this effect.

 

[Roseeurekacross]

5 senior arch Bishops are giving their evidence now. It can be watched live. Each archbishop is currently describing their apoplogies to Dioceses and victims.

 

[Roseeurekacross]

Mrs Piper had a half hour private meeting with Archbishop Hart.

Today the 5 Archbishops will be asked what has changed and what has been done to facilitate change.

 

[Wedge_Antilles]

Let us also not conflate the number of claims or accusations with the number of actual abuses. Certainly the latter exists, but as we have seen in the US, the two are hardly synonymous.

 

[Rau]

Let us also not conflate the number of claims or accusations with the number of actual abuses. Certainly the latter exists, but as we have seen in the US, the two are hardly synonymous.

We know in rape generally, the number of incidents greatly exceeds the number of claims. I am sure there are some vexatious and made up claims of clergy abuse of children. But on balance, I don’t think there are grounds to take any comfort from your observation.

 

[Rau]

Mrs Piper had a half hour private meeting with Archbishop Hart.

Mrs Piper’s 32 yr old daughter committed suicide in 1994 1 year after making a claim that a priest raped her as a teen, but investigations could not confirm the event ever occurred. Police dropped the case upon her death. She later told the media “he was very sympathetic…but nothing has changed…”. Mrs Piper wants an apology (and presumably punishment of the accused and perhaps compensation) for an event that no one can confirm ever occurred. However, the priest was charged over this event, and was convicted of abusing other girls.

Today the 5 Archbishops will be asked what has changed and what has been done to facilitate change.

Some interesting statements made by the Archbishops yesterday, including:

• a view that elements of the mishandling of child sexual abuse resembled criminal negligence;
• a view that church leadership for too long saw itself as apart from and above the civil state; That it saw itself in a monarchical way.

These comments were characterized as largely about past behaviours and conditions and far, far less applicable to the current day church.

google.com.au/amp/s/amp.smh.com.au/national/catholic-leaders-speak-of-churchs-catastrophic-failure-in-past-approach-to-child-abuse-20170222-guj5pl.html

 

[Roseeurekacross]

I pray for a good outcome to the Commission. For all parties involved. And all Diocese involved can then finally move on. Its been a very long slow painful journey.

 

[Roseeurekacross]

Let us also not conflate the number of claims or accusations with the number of actual abuses. Certainly the latter exists, but as we have seen in the US, the two are hardly synonymous.

As I keep saying, its not denied, not hidden, not swept under the carpet anymore.it happened, its real, it will be with us in our schools, homes, parishes, institutions for decades to come.

The Royal Commission said on day one of this current sitting that these figures were inline with those of the States.

 

[pnewton]

The term ‘massive drop off’ is …

41 cases reported in the 2010s
10 alleged perpetrators in the 2010s
Around (?) 25 claims from schools in the 2010s

No link, no perspective. I do not know if these numbers are North America, the United States or made up. However, ten alleged perpetrators from 38,275 priests in the United States, if it is U.S. figure, is 0.03%, a rather significant drop from the earlier projected numbers between 1% and 4%.

 

[Rau]

No link, no perspective. I do not know if these numbers are North America, the United States or made up. However, ten alleged perpetrators from 38,275 priests in the United States, if it is U.S. figure, is 0.03%, a rather significant drop from the earlier projected numbers between 1% and 4%.

The thread is about an Inquiry into child sexual abuse in Australia, and in particular, the Catholic Church. The headline stats regarding the Catholic Church were provided in post #1. The figures rose quoted I think we’re extracted from a transcript, and they are a significant drop off from prior horrendous numbers.

 

[Roseeurekacross]

The thread is about an Inquiry into child sexual abuse in Australia, and in particular, the Catholic Church. The headline stats regarding the Catholic Church were provided in post #1. The figures rose quoted I think we’re extracted from a transcript, and they are a significant drop off from prior horrendous numbers.

Thanks Rau.

Here is the link to Case Study 50, Rau posted it on page 1.
All figures are from those quoted in the Commission, and from the transcript. Our local diocese, via the Bishop, is keeping everyone updated with facts and figures , weekly, in the newsletter too.

I am in one of the Diocese featuring , and responsible for a lot of these figures. So decided to post a thread, keeping anyone interested, updated. Hard as all this is to believe, it happened, survivors from the late 20th century abuse are only middle aged.

Hopefully there will be some acceptable outcomes from this. They will, no doubt, be far reaching. We wait now, for the next steps.

childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/261be84b-bec0-4440-b294-57d3e7de1234/case-study-50,-february-2017,-sydney
“The Royal Commission will hold a public hearing to inquire into the current policies and procedures of Catholic Church authorities in Australia in relation to child-protection and child-safety standards, including responding to allegations of child sexual abuse.”

 

[Rau]

A pastoral message from the Archbishop of Sydney, as the Royal Commission’s enquiries concerning child sexual abuse in the Catholic Church wrap up, and Lent begins.