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herry
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Hi folks,
Its herry again. I, following the advice of a gentleman on this forum, read the CA tract “Sabbath or Sunday”. I read it and even I could have written a better defense of the lord’s day, even though I do not regard it at all. It contains 3 verses from scripture (Acts 20:7, and 1 Corinthians 16:2, and Revelation 1:10) which say nothing about a change of the Sabbath, and do more to profane Sunday than establish it as the Sabbath of the new dispensation. It also contained a few quotes form early saints, like Ignatius, and Barnabus.
Now I read your tract for Sunday, so please read my tract on the Sabbath (7th day) “*with early fathers”
Acts 20:7 says “And upon the first day of the week, when the dsciples came together to break bread, paul preached to them, ready to depart the next morning”. If we continue reading, they were gathered at night. “there were many lights in the upper room” ver.8, and a young man fell asleep in the window as paul was preaching ver. 9. paul was about to travel a long 18 mile foot journey (ver.13) about 18 miles to his ship ver. 13.
The Apostles reckoned the days of the week from sunset to sunset. So they were gathered on saturday night. Paul was about to travel 18 miles on foot to his ship sunday morning --not a good way to Christen a new sabbath. The Apostles gathered to break bread every day of the week (Acts 2:46). Now, if they were gathered Sunday evening, then it would be monday to them, and the point is mute.
1 Corinthians 16:2 says “Upon the first day of the week, let every one of you lay by him in store as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come”
Paul tells them to put into storage the proportionate amount of money to that which God has given them. This would take some bookkeeping. Undoubtedly not a good thing to do on the Sabbath so Paul tells them to do this work on Sunday. Also, he tells them to lay it aside in store, or that is, ‘by himself’, or aside for collection at a later time.
Revelation 1:9-10: “I John, who am also your brother…was on the isle that is called Patmos, for the Word of God, and teh testimony of Jesus. I was in the spirit on the Lord’s day, adn heard behind me a great voice as a trumpet,”
John was a prophet on the island of patmos for the Testimony of Jesus Christ. The testimony of Jesus Christ is the spirit of prophecy (Revelation 19:10), and “the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets, for God is not the author of confusion” (1 Cor. 13:42, 43). God is not the author of confusion, so He would not, througt the pen of Isaiah the prophet call the Sabbath “My Holy Day” (Isaiah 58:13), adn then have John call another day the Lord’s holy day. This verse is conclusive evidence that the Apostle John was keeping Holy the Sabbath day.
Even past Cardinals Gibbons (Baltimore), O’ Connell (Boston), and Dougherty (Philidelphia) have admitted in thier writings that there is no line in scripture establishing Sunday as a holy day, and that it is purely a creation of the Church of Rome.
Athanasius Bishop of Alexanria gives us a scope into how the early Church kept the Sabbath. “We keep the Sabbath not because we are infected with Judaism, but to worship Jesus, the Lord of Sabbath” --Antiquities of the Christian Church, Vol II, book XX
The same Ignatius which tract references says in the extended version of His epistle (found in ANF Vol. 1) to the Mangenesians: “And after he has kept the Sabbath, let every friend of Christ keep (also) the lord’s day as a feast day”
The Consititutions of the holy Apostels says: “Thou shalt observe the Sabbath day on account of Him who ceased from His works of creation, but not from His works of providence” Constitutions., book II (found in ANF vol. 7).
Finally, John Ley (a sunday keeper) writes in Sunday a Sabbath, which, by the way, is a defense of Sundaykeeping, says: “Firstly, as for the Apostels, thier practice for religious and solemn assemblies on the Jews Sabbath is plain, whereof, they who doubt may read to their own resolution and find satisfaction in Acts 13:42-45,…and other places. Secondly, the from the time of the Apostles until the Laodicean Council, which was about the year 364, the holy observance of the jews Sabbath continued, as may be proved out of many authors, notwithstanding the decree of the council against it” Sunday a Sabbath, p. 163 (1621)
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Its herry again. I, following the advice of a gentleman on this forum, read the CA tract “Sabbath or Sunday”. I read it and even I could have written a better defense of the lord’s day, even though I do not regard it at all. It contains 3 verses from scripture (Acts 20:7, and 1 Corinthians 16:2, and Revelation 1:10) which say nothing about a change of the Sabbath, and do more to profane Sunday than establish it as the Sabbath of the new dispensation. It also contained a few quotes form early saints, like Ignatius, and Barnabus.
Now I read your tract for Sunday, so please read my tract on the Sabbath (7th day) “*with early fathers”
Acts 20:7 says “And upon the first day of the week, when the dsciples came together to break bread, paul preached to them, ready to depart the next morning”. If we continue reading, they were gathered at night. “there were many lights in the upper room” ver.8, and a young man fell asleep in the window as paul was preaching ver. 9. paul was about to travel a long 18 mile foot journey (ver.13) about 18 miles to his ship ver. 13.
The Apostles reckoned the days of the week from sunset to sunset. So they were gathered on saturday night. Paul was about to travel 18 miles on foot to his ship sunday morning --not a good way to Christen a new sabbath. The Apostles gathered to break bread every day of the week (Acts 2:46). Now, if they were gathered Sunday evening, then it would be monday to them, and the point is mute.
1 Corinthians 16:2 says “Upon the first day of the week, let every one of you lay by him in store as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come”
Paul tells them to put into storage the proportionate amount of money to that which God has given them. This would take some bookkeeping. Undoubtedly not a good thing to do on the Sabbath so Paul tells them to do this work on Sunday. Also, he tells them to lay it aside in store, or that is, ‘by himself’, or aside for collection at a later time.
Revelation 1:9-10: “I John, who am also your brother…was on the isle that is called Patmos, for the Word of God, and teh testimony of Jesus. I was in the spirit on the Lord’s day, adn heard behind me a great voice as a trumpet,”
John was a prophet on the island of patmos for the Testimony of Jesus Christ. The testimony of Jesus Christ is the spirit of prophecy (Revelation 19:10), and “the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets, for God is not the author of confusion” (1 Cor. 13:42, 43). God is not the author of confusion, so He would not, througt the pen of Isaiah the prophet call the Sabbath “My Holy Day” (Isaiah 58:13), adn then have John call another day the Lord’s holy day. This verse is conclusive evidence that the Apostle John was keeping Holy the Sabbath day.
Even past Cardinals Gibbons (Baltimore), O’ Connell (Boston), and Dougherty (Philidelphia) have admitted in thier writings that there is no line in scripture establishing Sunday as a holy day, and that it is purely a creation of the Church of Rome.
Athanasius Bishop of Alexanria gives us a scope into how the early Church kept the Sabbath. “We keep the Sabbath not because we are infected with Judaism, but to worship Jesus, the Lord of Sabbath” --Antiquities of the Christian Church, Vol II, book XX
The same Ignatius which tract references says in the extended version of His epistle (found in ANF Vol. 1) to the Mangenesians: “And after he has kept the Sabbath, let every friend of Christ keep (also) the lord’s day as a feast day”
The Consititutions of the holy Apostels says: “Thou shalt observe the Sabbath day on account of Him who ceased from His works of creation, but not from His works of providence” Constitutions., book II (found in ANF vol. 7).
Finally, John Ley (a sunday keeper) writes in Sunday a Sabbath, which, by the way, is a defense of Sundaykeeping, says: “Firstly, as for the Apostels, thier practice for religious and solemn assemblies on the Jews Sabbath is plain, whereof, they who doubt may read to their own resolution and find satisfaction in Acts 13:42-45,…and other places. Secondly, the from the time of the Apostles until the Laodicean Council, which was about the year 364, the holy observance of the jews Sabbath continued, as may be proved out of many authors, notwithstanding the decree of the council against it” Sunday a Sabbath, p. 163 (1621)
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Sadly.
