The second coming of Christ

[Dudd]

I think it’s very likely that the man of sin who I refer to the Islamic anti-Christ, verifies himself as the AC in East Jerusalem’s Dome area complex.

I keep saying that the prophetic beliefs of most Protestants will never come to pass. A pre-trib rapture, the rebuilding of a Jewish Temple, an EU anti-Christ AKA a global dictator who unifies the world’s government, and a unified world religion believed to be initiated by the Pope, etc., …will NEVER happen! These things will NEVER pass as they are NOT prophesied in God’s Word.

 

[MarkRome]

The revelation that has been given can be made more explicit, but there will be no new public revelation. (CCC 66-67).

 

[EndTimes]

I think it’s very likely that the man of sin who I refer to the Islamic anti-Christ, verifies himself as the AC in East Jerusalem’s Dome area complex.

I’m glad you said, “very likely” … b/c that leaves the door open to being mistaken

Maybe any forthcoming 3rd temple on that location will be built by Israel

But first, Israel shall have to exert/wrest control over that area.

Wait and See, Eh?

 

[Dudd]

I don’t think Israel will ever take full control of the Temple Mount, that would cause a regional war. BUT, being that Trump moved the Embassy - that throws a wrench in the works.

 

[EndTimes]

I don’t think Israel will ever take full control of the Temple Mount,

If you’ve been following the news of that specific area for the past say 2 Decades,
would you come to see a gradual encroachment upon that area by Israel?

MeanWhile - Wait and See… eh?

 

[Crusader13]

So you actually believe Jesus returned in AD70?

I don’t believe that was His second coming, no. That was the judgement that befell Israel and the Jewish people who rejected Christ.

So what does that mean for us now…

In Romans 11 we are told that the natural branches (Jews) were broken off from the olive tree and the wild branches (Gentiles) were grafted in. However, the natural branches are not forever cut off, in Scripture it says the Jews will return once the fullness of the Gentiles have come in.

The Kingdom of God is in effect now, it’s not a still future event that will take place at the second coming. When Jesus first arrived the constant theme was to repent now, because the Kingdom was at hand. That’s why He compared the Kingdom to a mustard seed. The mustard seed was planted back then and since that time it has continued to grow progressively.

So we as the Church Militant on earth are commanded to make disciples of all nations. Meaning we are to finish our work of bringing in the rest of the Gentiles and stamping out the remaining idolatry and pagan worship. We are conquering the world for Christ and bringing the good news of salvation, so at some point the Jews will return. When this is completed, Christ will return and the resurrection will take place.

The second coming actually has very little scriptural references to what will take place or when. We know that Satan will attempt one final attack on the Church because we’ve been plundering his house.

I have to double to check, but I don’t believe Antichrist occurs once in Revelation nor the rapture.

 

[GLam1761]

You are Jumping to conclusions that I never intended to have. You see Satan is working in the business of h”helping the poor”, too. He wants them to look to him as their “saviour “!!

 

[GLam1761]

I am of the opinion that Satan can and Does mimic God’s work to deceive and confuse, even the elect if possible!!

 

[Athanasiy]

There definitely will be wars, starvations, natural desasters, some epidemics (even worst than corona viruses…)
That what we can expect according to the Biblical prophesies, despite the necessity and Christian mission of course to make this world a better place to live.

 

[Dudd]

Christians tend to build up and over exaggerate any news about the building of the temple OR a one world government or religion.

A temple doesn’t need rebuilding for the prophecies to pass.

 

[Dudd]

In Revelation the anti-Christ is called the beast. Protestants can’t agree ‘where’ in Revelation the rapture is mentioned. The ‘rapture’ is best understood between Revelation 14 and Mathew 13.

 

[EndTimes]

Christians tend to build up and over exaggerate any news about the building of the temple

Actually, only relatively few Christians know about the goings on in Israel with regard to the THIRD TEMPLE.

Christian Prophecies re: The AntiChrist - The Real Temple - and the Return of Jesus - are true

 

[EndTimes]

A temple doesn’t need rebuilding for the prophecies to pass.

Then why are many Jews planning to (re)build a temple?

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[Pattylt]

Then why are many Jews planning to (re)build a temple?

Are there? I’ve mostly heard of Christian groups trying to do this but not Jews in general. Do you have information on this?

 

[Autumn-Smoke]

Are there? I’ve mostly heard of Christian groups trying to do this but not Jews in general. Do you have information on this?

You can look at “The Temple Institute” located in Jerusalem. They already have all the temple implements made, and the priests’ clothing, all according to the instructions in the Hebrew Scriptures. They are choosing and training priests for temple service in a rebuilt temple. If you ever go to Jerusalem you can see everything they have at their visitor center. It was the neatest thing I did there.

The Temple Institute of Jerusalem - Learn About the Temple Institute

The Temple Institute | Jerusalem

 

[Pattylt]

I’ve gone through FB link and found the link to their web page. What I can not find out is who these people are and how many of them. Are they Jewish Jews or Messianic Jews? Is it a large number of people that are wishing to accomplish this or just a few with wealthy donors. They give no information on their organization itself that I could find…which makes me a little suspicious but not hugely so. I don’t doubt that there a some Jews that want to rebuild the Temple…there have always been some. What I’m curious about is how large they are and if there are Christians involved…and how many Christians if there are.

If you know any of this or have further links to the organization itself, I’d appreciate it.

 

[Autumn-Smoke]

Hi, I don’t know too much about them, really. I do know that they aren’t Messianic or Christian in any way. They post some brilliant teachings on their FB page and I used to listen to their Shabbat teaching weekly on the Parashat, by Rabbi Chaim Rickman, who is a spokesman for The Institute, and found them excellent. Their FB page under “About” has good info, but not to their size. I hope you can find what you’re looking for; sorry I wasn’t of more help.

 

[Pattylt]

Hi, I don’t know too much about them, really. I do know that they aren’t Messianic or Christian in any way. They post some brilliant teachings on their FB page and I used to listen to their Shabbat teaching weekly on the Parashat, by Rabbi Chaim Rickman, who is a spokesman for The Institute, and found them excellent. Their FB page under “About” has good info, but not to their size. I hope you can find what you’re looking for; sorry I wasn’t of more help.

No, you did fine. I was just wondering out loud and posed it to you in case you did know more. The fact they aren’t messianic Jews in itself is helpful. Often, Christian groups try to fulfill prophesy about building the third Temple for their own reasons. Those do it to hurry the return of Christ, not for Jewish reasons. So, I wanted to make sure!

 

[Dudd]

They’ve been planning that for a long time…the red heifer thing, etc. The only temple that remains prophetic is the Millennial Temple. People use 2 Thes. 2 and Daniel 9 to justify a coming Jewish Temple. They teach that - during the first 3 1/2 years of a 7 year tribulation, the anti-Christ will make a 7 year “peace treaty” with Israel and allow the Jews to rebuild their Temple and resume animal sacrifices only to take them away (cease) in the “middle of the week” AKA - the end of first 3 1/2 years of Daniel’s 70th week.

I’m not a believer in Daniel’s 70th week, but look at Daniel 9:27…

“And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.”

The consummation Daniel mentions here is the same one the disciples asked about in Mathew 24. The Jewish Temple remains desolate today which proves the consummation of the Age/Aeon/Aion refers to the END the culminates into the Millennial kingdom - something Amil’s reject.

Luke 13:35 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate: and verily I say unto you, Ye shall not see me, until the time come when ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.

The Lord returns and the Temple is still desolate.

 

[EndTimes]

In Genesis 8:21 YHWH promises that He will never again be the cause of any disaster that will wipe out most of the human race. However in both OT and NT we find prophecies of just such a disaster.
Seems like a contradiction.

No Contradiction… Only Satan Contradicts. God does not.

Satan and some of Man has been the cause of all that AILS this Worldly world.

When Jesus Returns - He’ll eliminate all what AILS Creation
including those who currently think that they’ll be Victorious over JESUS.