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Revelation 13:18

***Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding ***count the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man, and his number is 666.

Note the preamble to the verse. A correct interpretation requires gifts of wisdom and understanding on the part of the reader.

Similarly, Revelation 17:9

And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sitteth.

As I read all of the posts, I realize that Revelation is written in a scrambled part-literal, part-allegorical form to confound all but the wise. Maybe Daniel did this to Revelation, when he supernaturally “sealed the book until the time of the end” (Daniel 12:4).

**Daniel 12:4:

But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.**

This means that the old, traditional interpretations of Revelation are useless (men ran to and fro uselessly), because unsealing the book required that mankind achieve a certain level of increased, end-time knowledge, to unseal the book. Hints on that subject appear in my posts for the benefit of the wise reader.

**Daniel 12: 9,10

Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand**

Who are the wise? They are those who embrace righteousness (doing right). They are the merciful and just. God blesses them with wisdom. They are given the eyes that see and the ears that hear.

Who are the wicked? This is probably the most clearly spelled out part of Revelation. The sins against God are enumerated, but the wicked continually embrace them, nevertheless. The wicked are unjust and lacking in mercy. The wicked have eyes that do not see (blind) and ears that do not hear (deaf).

But, a wise person recognizes wisdom.
 
If anyone wise is following my Revelation posts, here is another pointer:

Watch the old multiple Academy Award - winning movie (1978) The Boys From Brazil, starring Sir Lawrence Olivier and Gregory Peck.

Some of the movie is “pure Hollywood” but there is an underlying serious premise that is conveyed visually with great effect.
 
Watch the old multiple Academy Award - winning movie (1978) The Boys From Brazil, starring Sir Lawrence Olivier and Gregory Peck.
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Some of the movie is “pure Hollywood” but there is an underlying serious premise that is conveyed visually with great effect.
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I watched the movie and also read the book. I don’t see the connection to this thread.

Side note: the movie ends with Olivier burning the list of 95 Hitler clone boys because he says they won’t be more Hitlers because Hitler’s life can’t be duplicated.
In the book, however, the last scene has one of the boys doing an architectural drawing like Hitler did in his youth, and thinking about how superior he was to everybody else.
 
empther said:
I watched the movie and also read the book. I don’t see the connection to this thread.

Side note: the movie ends with Olivier burning the list of 95 Hitler clone boys because he says they won’t be more Hitlers because Hitler’s life can’t be duplicated.
In the book, however, the last scene has one of the boys doing an architectural drawing like Hitler did in his youth, and thinking about how superior he was to everybody else.
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Absolutely correct!

Hitler AND his followers considered him to be superhuman…a messiah (er…of sorts)!

**Revelation 17:9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sitteth.

Revelation 17:8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit; and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.**

Do you see any connection with the movie?
 
OK…IF the seven continents really*** ARE*** the seven mountains of Revelation 17:9 (please bear with me for the sake of argument), then almost ANY city on the planet might become the world capital.

But Revelation 2:12 and 13:2 BOTH mention “Satan’s throne,” (the Pergamon Altar) which was relocated to Berlin, Germany in 1871 from Bergama (or Pergamum or Pergamos), Turkey. This “Great Altar of Zeus” was a place of human sacrifice. The sacrificial fires (holocausts) burned on it day and night on the Acropolis of Pergamon.
Antipas, an early Christian was sacrificed at the Pergamon Altar by roasting in an iron bull (Rev 12:2).

The Pergamon Altar was reassembled and put on display in the Berlin Staatliches Museen in 1930 where it remains to this very day. Hitler became Chancellor in 1933.

Revelation 13:2 says that Satan’s throne will be given to the beast.

It is interesting to note that the early Church read Revelation correctly in Nero’s time. Pergamum (and the Altar) would have been part of the Roman empire, so Nero was a good candidate for the “beast” of Rev 13:2. But,* not *with the Altar in Berlin (that was never part of Nero’s empire). The Roman Empire did not stretch that far North into what is Germany today.

Best candidate for future world capital? Berlin.

Best candidate for the beast? Painfully obvious.
 
Another pointer to Berlin (Babylon).

The German archaeologist, Robert Koldewey, traveled into Turkey (the Ottoman Empire) prior to World War I and discovered the Ishtar Gate of Babylon.

This gate was considered in the Babylonian religion to be the “Gateway of the Gods” or “Gateway to the Underworld.” It is decorated with bulls and red dragons (both Satanic icons in Western heraldry).

Koldewey numbered and packed up the fragments of the Ishtar Gate in earthenware pots and transported them back to Berlin.

Eventually, the original gate was reassembled and is on display in the Pergamon Museum alongside the Pergamon Altar (above).

Couldn’t the references to “Babylon” in Revelation 17 point to the modern city that possesses the greatest iconic original monument of ancient Babylon, the Ishtar Gate of Babylon (now in Berlin)? It would certainly seem so, given other bits of data in Revelation pointing to a resurgent future Germany.
 
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I don’t know about continents.

I think chapters 17-18 of the Book of Revelation make it pretty clear that Babylon (the city with seven hills) is a City. Not only does this City have seven hills but chapter 18 makes it clear that this city is a financial center and a Port City which suffers a supernatural chastisement by God. This chastisement is described in Rev. 18:21:

Sounds like the coastal city of “Babylon” is destroyed by an asteroid impacting the ocean causing a Tsunami.
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Interestingly, Berlin is about 600 miles south of the Baltic Coast.

And, Hamburg, Germany, Europe’s busiest seaport is a mere 153.15 miles from Berlin!

The Bikini Atoll H-Bomb explosion cloud reached a height of 48 miles and was visible 700 miles away!

Under such circumstances, sailors in Hamburg (and probably on the Baltic) could easily “see” the destruction of Berlin as a debris and dust cloud, so that aspect of Revelation 18 does not exclude Berlin or mandate that “Babylon” be a port city or coastal city somewhere else in the world.

Even an impacting asteroid might throw up a massive dust cloud as many miles high. It would be the megatonnage of the impact (kinetic energy) that would count in elaborating a huge dust and debris cloud, visible hundreds of miles away.

Berlin was the largest trade center in Europe prior to World War II and is quickly being rebuilt to resume that position in world commerce. On that point we agree perfectly.
 
There was a certain difference between germans and italians in the WWII: the germans wanted to conquer the world, and the italians who did not, used to mass surender.Or maybe was only the disciplined spirit of the germans? They are so meticulous and method oriented.

Is it possible that the end of the world started way long time ago? For example the great plague that killed 1/3 of Europe, is it part of it or not?
Is there a certain event from which you can have a reference, and say it started or not?
 
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There was a certain difference between germans and italians in the WWII: the germans wanted to conquer the world, and the italians who did not, used to mass surender.Or maybe was only the disciplined spirit of the germans? They are so meticulous and method oriented.

Is it possible that the end of the world started way long time ago? For example the great plague that killed 1/3 of Europe, is it part of it or not?
Is there a certain event from which you can have a reference, and say it started or not?
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I cannot comment accurately on ALL Germans versus ALL Italians. But, yes, historically the Germans werebent on world conquest. Possibly there are modern elements in concert with the “globalist agenda” who still are still bent on a world dominated from Germany. This would be covertly achieved, rather than by open military conquest as during the Third Reich era.

But the resurrection of a Fourth Reich (Reich = Realm = Empire) would still require a leader. If the agenda included the cloning of the former one, it would complete the formerly desired conquest after all…as if World War II was never lost.

Were the Nazi’s really defeated? There is good evidence that they were not…but went underground…to influence and dominate world affairs. A good read on the subject is The Nazi International by Joseph P. Farrell.

Regarding the actual “end of the world,” Jesus said “Nobody knows that day, except the Father.”

Daniel’s verse 12:4 about “sealing the book until the* time of the end*” coupled with the emergence into modern consciousness of a concept like HUMAN CLONING (which seems to now unseal parts of the book of Revelation, making it readable) would suggest that we are now, indeed, in “the time of the end,” a vague period of increasing difficulty and dysfunction for humanity.
 
Still trying to convey the concept of the Antichrist empire as being global…a Fourth Reich established on the seven hills (seven continents), ruled from Berlin (Babylon).

I will write more later on the relationship between Hitler, Naziism, Satanism, Luciferians …and their ambitions of establishing a global New World Order under their cloned Fuehrer, (the Antichrist).

If there is any comfort in this, it lies in realizing that ALL Christians will be unified in a final contest with blackest world-Satanism. It will be no mere issue of sectarian differences…Protestant versus Catholic, etc… It will be spiritually clearer…and grimmer.
 
Polita612 said:
Still trying to convey the concept of the Antichrist empire as being global…a Fourth Reich established on the seven hills (seven continents), ruled from Berlin (Babylon).

I will write more later on the relationship between Hitler, Naziism, Satanism, Luciferians …and their ambitions of establishing a global New World Order under their cloned Fuehrer, (the Antichrist).

If there is any comfort in this, it lies in realizing that ALL Christians will be unified in a final contest with blackest world-Satanism. It will be no mere issue of sectarian differences…Protestant versus Catholic, etc… It will be spiritually clearer…and grimmer.
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Hitler tricked the german people once… There will be no fourth reich or anything like it.
 
Trying to keep this thread somewhat on topic to demonstrate that Antichrist’s empire will be global…on the seven hills or mountains (continents), any reader would agree that Hitler and his followers had global ambitions.

One Nazi occultist, General Karl Haushofer, developed a school of thought whereby it was determined that if a vital 10-15% of the earth was conquered, the rest of the planet could be dominated. WORLD dominion was a major part of the Nazi agenda.

But who was Hitler and who were the Nazis in reality?

Conventional history portrays them as a bunch of angry, disaffected, political bigots, rankling from the loss of World War I.

In reality, the Nazis were an occultic spiritual organization. Like all such cults, there are layers that can be peeled away to reach the spiritual core. The outer layer were the simple, hyper-patriotic, roughnecks, who wanted only to be blindly obedient for “Greater Germany,” and to physically bully people in the streets, or to make war. The outer layer never knew or understood the core agenda. They were the deceived, ignorant, and often youthful.

The SS (Schutzstaffel…Germans still call them the “elite”) were nearer to the core spirit and looked and acted more overtly Satanic. They wore the skulls, or Satanic lightning bolts on their uniforms. The SS ran the Gestapo (Secret State Police) and the SD (Sicherheitsdienst) which operated the Concentration Camps and Death Camps. They could indulge brutality with impunity.

The Nazi Party leaders were dedicated occult Luciferians (Satanists), a fact carefully concealed from the German population, many of whom were Catholic or Lutheran. A great many of the Party leaders were homosexuals (including Hitler, himself). They shared an affinity for young, healthy males, many of whom were orphans of World War I, and could be swept into the Movement. They liked the “super-macho” look of tall, polished leather boots, brutality, creating their own morality (acting like gods), and wearing tailored uniforms.

At the Nazi core was Adolph Hitler, a medium, an Adept, who could channel the spirit of Lucifer (Satan), himself.

Of him Revelation 13:2 says "…and the dragon him his power, and his seat, and great authority."

Hitler spoke of a voice which guided him. During World War I, the voice told him to move from where he was eating his lunch, which he did. A shell landed seconds later, killing his messmates. Hitler would say of his behavior “I act with the assurance of a sleepwalker.”

After World War I, Hitler made the acquaintance of many German Luciferians and occultists.
A notable playright, Dietrich Eckart mentored Hitler in further developing his occultic enlightenment (from Lucifer, the “Light Bearer”). Whatever this occult enlightenment- amplifying process was, when completed, Hitler began his meteoric rise to fame and power. Hitler remained eternally grateful to Dietrich Eckart. Hitler rapidly won the acclaim and financial backing of Satanists in Germany and worldwide. The occult agenda was to Satanize Germany…and then the whole world.

Where is the objective evidence that Hitler was the Luciferian-Satanic messiah?

1.) In the hypnotic power of his mass-mesmerizing speeches. In video, we see him bob wildly like a puppet on a string, screaming, clutching his body, eyes rolling wildly, spittle flying from his lips. Observers noted him to be “shocked at the torrent of words streaming from his own mouth…as if another being were speaking through him.” He would lose up to two pounds of fluid in a speech. This is clearly demonic possession.

2.) In his affinity for the Pergamon Altar, Satans throne, of Revelation 2:12 and 13:2. He copied the architecture on a massive scale to create and plan two major Nazi edifices, the Zeppelinfeld at Nuremberg. and he personally sketched plans for the gigantic mausoleum for the German war dead, the Soldatenhalle (never built).

3.) The Nazi swastika is a leftward rotating, (arms trailing) swastika, stood on corner. In occult circles, this means homosexual black magic. Hitler was homosexual, as documented by the German historian, Lothar Machtan, in his book* “The Hidden Fuhrer”*, also available on DVD

4.) When World War II ended, a U.S. Army Officer removed a number of Hitler’s books from his Berlin bunker. Most of the books dealt with occult practices and magic, and had Hitler’s penciled notes (marginalia) in the margins. This book collection is now in the library of Brown University, Providence, Rhode Island.

5.) Hitler designed most of the Nazi uniforms and regalia, himself. Most of these bear a leftward = sinister orientation, as swastika armbands on the left sleeve, helmet insignia on the left side of the helmet. Most of the emblems are Greek ZEUS emblems…the oakleaf, the eagle, the lightning bolts. One must remember that the Pergamon Altar (called Satan’s throne by the LORD in Revelation) was called “The Great Altar of Zeus at Pergamos” by the Greeks. So, the Greek spirit ZEUS = the Judeo-Christian spirit, SATAN. Hitler’s substitution of symbol was not by accident.

And so, it is quite understandable why the world Luciferians, admire their “most enlightened” messianic figure, who could channel Satan, himself. Given that cloning was developing in 1935, and Hitler died in 1945, might not the Luciferians want to resurrect Hitler, their messiah, through cloning? This could certainly be an international Luciferian project with the object of establishing Anti-Christ’s global reign in earth…until the LORD returns to abolish it!
 
Ion said:
Hitler tricked the german people once… There will be no fourth reich or anything like it.
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Read ABOVE.

It won’t have to do with “tricking the German people” again.

The globalist Luciferians will subvert the world from above. This is the world money power acting in concert with liars, those who hate the good and love evil, those who despise Christ and Church, and truth, and moral cleanliness (Godliness).

Look at your television! They’re well at work changing YOUR world already!
 
**Revelation 13:1

And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy**.

This “beast” is the world empire (Fourth Reich) on the seven heads (continents), divided into ten states (horns), with ten governors (crowns).

The name of blasphemy is Adolf Hitler (the clone of the original…Antichrist).

Note that this world empire emerges very suddenly…as when a SUBMARINE SURFACES. What was invisible suddenly becomes very visible.

Only the wise will see it coming.
 
Polita612 said:
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Note that this world empire emerges very suddenly…as when a SUBMARINE SURFACES. What was invisible suddenly becomes very visible.

Only the wise will see it coming.
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or anyone with a fish finder sonar.
 
**Revelation 13:18

Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding count the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man, and his number is 666.**

This is probably the most famous, cryptic verse, in Revelation, if not in the BIBLE.

It is all about HUMAN CLONING.

Without this modern scientific concept fixed in the mind, the interpretation has eluded the wise and holy men of all the ages. For them, the concept of human cloning simply did not exist, and the verse was a hopelessly locked puzzle.

A (single human) is cloned to create a number of ***countable *** duplicates (beasts).

The total number of lab specimens prepared is unknown (perhaps 1,000) but the PREDESTINED LAB COPY, that will be become THE beast is** lab specimen #665**

Why #665? Because the **counting of A man **begins with the ORIGINAL (#1) + 665 Duplicates = 666.

So, there must be (or must have been) at least 665 labeled petri dishes or test tubes containing cloned embryos in a lab somewhere at some time.

Anyone following my posts already knows the identity of LAB COPY #665, THE BEAST, THE ANTICHRIST.
 
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