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brap
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I’m I being too sensitive when I am offended by the Halloween episode last night when Marge asks" What kind of people eat the flesh and blood of their saviour?"
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fultonfish
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If it was me, that would give me enough rationale to quit watching the Simpsons. I would just unplug from that program.
[If I wanted to be rigorous, I could draft up a polite but firm one page letter and mail it to the various sponsors. Maybe print out the relevant tract from Catholic Answers and include that. And as a return address label, use one that says “pray the Rosary”.]
But you’re going to collect a bunch of insults for being Catholic. Can’t avoid that. Get used to it. One priest referred to these low intensity insults as a form of persecution. So, pray for the writers and sponsors. Pray for those who persecute you and who insult you.
Maybe visit the web site for Bill Donovan at The Catholic League and see if they have picked up on it. And if he has not noted it, maybe send him an email with the particulars, date of the program, etc. He’s a real bulldog.
[If I wanted to be rigorous, I could draft up a polite but firm one page letter and mail it to the various sponsors. Maybe print out the relevant tract from Catholic Answers and include that. And as a return address label, use one that says “pray the Rosary”.]
But you’re going to collect a bunch of insults for being Catholic. Can’t avoid that. Get used to it. One priest referred to these low intensity insults as a form of persecution. So, pray for the writers and sponsors. Pray for those who persecute you and who insult you.
Maybe visit the web site for Bill Donovan at The Catholic League and see if they have picked up on it. And if he has not noted it, maybe send him an email with the particulars, date of the program, etc. He’s a real bulldog.
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Eucharisted
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Pray for the people behind that show. You are right to be offended by such material, and it has been in many shows.
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adstrinity
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AWWWWW!! I missed the Halloween episode?! 
Maybe I can see what you’re on about at hulu.
Wouldn’t the answer be, “Saved People”?
Maybe I can see what you’re on about at hulu.Wouldn’t the answer be, “Saved People”?
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mlchance
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The line was played as a jab at Reverend Lovejoy, who isn’t Catholic, and Marge’s anti-Catholicism has been played up in at least one episode during which Bart and Homer converted. All in all, it wasn’t even chuckle worthy and suffered from the mixed characterization.
– Mark L. Chance.
– Mark L. Chance.
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adstrinity
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It IS on hulu!!! Treehouse of Horror XX!!!
I was most offended that there was a musical number…and that’s where Kodos & Krang were seen.
I was most offended that there was a musical number…and that’s where Kodos & Krang were seen.
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Gottle_of_Geer
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Having seen the offending segment and scene, I think so. In the context, it’s perfectly appropriate - and the idea of eating one’s saviour or god is far from peculiar to Catholics; it’s common to a good number of non-Christian cults, throughout the world. Catholics are aware of the idea merely because their religion makes a place for the idea; but it is found elsewhere too.
Even if the idea were pecular to Catholicism, to complain of a programme because of one line in it strikes me as showing a lack of proportion. If Catholics are going to criticise the media effectively, they need, IMO, to pick their battles: because non-stop complaining about every tiny detail found offensive risks losing the sympathies of those complained to: so that if really serious offensive is caused about something of great importance, complaints about it would risk being treated as yet more Catholic moaning, and not be given due weight. Bill Donohue complains non-stop about every least shadow of an insult - so he loses influence; not surprisingly.
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La-Petite-Fleur
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Oh, no
. I’m very sad to hear that. There was also another episode where Bart and Homer were going to a Catholic Church. Homer and Bart loved it, but Marge threw a fit and got Ned and her pastor involved to get them out. It sounds like she has a problem.I don’t have cable, but I won’t be watching the Simpson’s online anymore. It’s very sad. I used to watch them way back when Tracy Ullman was on. Terribly sad it’s come to this.
I couldn’t even watch King of the Hill re-run yesterday because even though the episode was rated PG, there was a scene inside a… a very bad pornographic place. I can’t believe the episode was PG and that kids could watch.
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Mattjolley
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that catholic episode of the Simpsons really annoyed me. So, Lisa can practise Buddhism but Homer and Bart can’t be Catholic? The writers are incredibly biased on some deeper level IMO.
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brap
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The reason behind my question was more a probe of the the question Marge asks “What kind of people eat the flesh and blood of their Saviour?” Does it say those people believe that God is present and can be be perfect communion with him or does it say, that is a really sick attitude toward Jesus Christ?
As for complaining about every tiny detail - I don’t think it is a tiny detail when someone questions one of your core beliefs. I think that it shows an incredible amount of insensitiviity toward a large body of people. Bill Donohue and the Catholic League are no different (or less effective) in pointing out these insensitivities then any organization that represents a culture, race or religion.
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CatholicFireman
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I tend to not watch The Simpsons, Family Guy, and similar cartoons for that reason. I’m tired of “open season” on Catholics and I know it will never stop. A lot of people at my job watch these shows and a lot are “catholic”.
I’m sure there are people in CAF that would “justify” this humor (I don’t know why…so they can keep watching “guilt free”?). Maybe for the same reason I don’t watch it: I find some of the episodes funny and the former me would have watched the show regularly. IMHO it’s better for me not to watch at all. Pax†
I’m sure there are people in CAF that would “justify” this humor (I don’t know why…so they can keep watching “guilt free”?). Maybe for the same reason I don’t watch it: I find some of the episodes funny and the former me would have watched the show regularly. IMHO it’s better for me not to watch at all. Pax†
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latin_rite
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I use to love the simpsons. I still like the show. But you’re right. Like most shows Christianity seems to cop more than its fair share of ridicule. To the point where it has just gotten boring to be honest. Other religions seem to get a easier go of it. such as Buddhism. I guess scienctology will never get a mention as the woman who does the voice of bart is a scienctologist.(sp). What gets me is the hyprocosy of shows and not just the simpsons. They go on like they are doing raw edge take no holds comedy. But all they do is pick the target that is the easiest or the one that wont lead to them getting death threats. Yet tip toe around all the other religions. Look at any show where the mainactor is an atheist. Its always the Christians traditions which are singled out and ridiculed. Its getting to the point where i’m beyond being offended. And just offer up a big yawn when they go into their anti christian rant.
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CatholicFireman
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VERY good post
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fultonfish
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Perhaps Marge should read John 6:32-70.
20But he said to them, ‘It is I;* do not be afraid.’ 21Then they wanted to take him into the boat, and immediately the boat reached the land towards which they were going.
22 The next day the crowd that had stayed on the other side of the lake saw that there had been only one boat there. They also saw that Jesus had not got into the boat with his disciples, but that his disciples had gone away alone. 23Then some boats from Tiberias came near the place where they had eaten the bread after the Lord had given thanks.* 24So when the crowd saw that neither Jesus nor his disciples were there, they themselves got into the boats and went to Capernaum looking for Jesus.
25 When they found him on the other side of the lake, they said to him, ‘Rabbi, when did you come here?’
26Jesus answered them, ‘Very truly, I tell you, you are looking for me, not because you saw signs, but because you ate your fill of the loaves. 27Do not work for the food that perishes, but for the food that endures for eternal life, which the Son of Man will give you. For it is on him that God the Father has set his seal.’
28Then they said to him, ‘What must we do to perform the works of God?’ 29Jesus answered them, ‘This is the work of God, that you believe in him whom he has sent.’ 30So they said to him, ‘What sign are you going to give us then, so that we may see it and believe you? What work are you performing? 31Our ancestors ate the manna in the wilderness; as it is written, “He gave them bread from heaven to eat.” ’
32Then Jesus said to them, ‘Very truly, I tell you, it was not Moses who gave you the bread from heaven, but it is my Father who gives you the true bread from heaven. 33For the bread of God is that which* comes down from heaven and gives life to the world.’ 34They said to him, ‘Sir, give us this bread always.’
41 Then the Jews began to complain about him because he said, ‘I am the bread that came down from heaven.’ 42They were saying, ‘Is not this Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? How can he now say, “I have come down from heaven”?’ 43Jesus answered them, ‘Do not complain among yourselves. 44No one can come to me unless drawn by the Father who sent me; and I will raise that person up on the last day. 45It is written in the prophets, “And they shall all be taught by God.” Everyone who has heard and learned from the Father comes to me. 46Not that anyone has seen the Father except the one who is from God; he has seen the Father. 47Very truly, I tell you, whoever believes has eternal life. 48I am the bread of life. 49Your ancestors ate the manna in the wilderness, and they died. 50This is the bread that comes down from heaven, so that one may eat of it and not die. 51I am the living bread that came down from heaven. Whoever eats of this bread will live for ever; and the bread that I will give for the life of the world is my flesh.’
52 The Jews then disputed among themselves, saying, ‘How can this man give us his flesh to eat?’ 53So Jesus said to them, ‘Very truly, I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. 54Those who eat my flesh and drink my blood have eternal life, and I will raise them up on the last day; 55for my flesh is true food and my blood is true drink. 56Those who eat my flesh and drink my blood abide in me, and I in them. 57Just as the living Father sent me, and I live because of the Father, so whoever eats me will live because of me. 58This is the bread that came down from heaven, not like that which your ancestors ate, and they died. But the one who eats this bread will live for ever.’ 59He said these things while he was teaching in the synagogue at Capernaum.
60 When many of his disciples heard it, they said, ‘This teaching is difficult; who can accept it?’ 61But Jesus, being aware that his disciples were complaining about it, said to them, ‘Does this offend you? 62Then what if you were to see the Son of Man ascending to where he was before? 63It is the spirit that gives life; the flesh is useless. The words that I have spoken to you are spirit and life. 64But among you there are some who do not believe.’ For Jesus knew from the first who were the ones that did not believe, and who was the one that would betray him. 65And he said, ‘For this reason I have told you that no one can come to me unless it is granted by the Father.’
66 Because of this many of his disciples turned back and no longer went about with him. 67So Jesus asked the twelve, ‘Do you also wish to go away?’ 68Simon Peter answered him, ‘Lord, to whom can we go? You have the words of eternal life. 69We have come to believe and know that you are the Holy One of God.’* 70Jesus answered them, ‘Did I not choose you, the twelve? Yet one of you is a devil.’ 71He was speaking of Judas son of Simon Iscariot,* for he, though one of the twelve, was going to betray him.
20But he said to them, ‘It is I;* do not be afraid.’ 21Then they wanted to take him into the boat, and immediately the boat reached the land towards which they were going.
22 The next day the crowd that had stayed on the other side of the lake saw that there had been only one boat there. They also saw that Jesus had not got into the boat with his disciples, but that his disciples had gone away alone. 23Then some boats from Tiberias came near the place where they had eaten the bread after the Lord had given thanks.* 24So when the crowd saw that neither Jesus nor his disciples were there, they themselves got into the boats and went to Capernaum looking for Jesus.
25 When they found him on the other side of the lake, they said to him, ‘Rabbi, when did you come here?’
26Jesus answered them, ‘Very truly, I tell you, you are looking for me, not because you saw signs, but because you ate your fill of the loaves. 27Do not work for the food that perishes, but for the food that endures for eternal life, which the Son of Man will give you. For it is on him that God the Father has set his seal.’
28Then they said to him, ‘What must we do to perform the works of God?’ 29Jesus answered them, ‘This is the work of God, that you believe in him whom he has sent.’ 30So they said to him, ‘What sign are you going to give us then, so that we may see it and believe you? What work are you performing? 31Our ancestors ate the manna in the wilderness; as it is written, “He gave them bread from heaven to eat.” ’
32Then Jesus said to them, ‘Very truly, I tell you, it was not Moses who gave you the bread from heaven, but it is my Father who gives you the true bread from heaven. 33For the bread of God is that which* comes down from heaven and gives life to the world.’ 34They said to him, ‘Sir, give us this bread always.’
41 Then the Jews began to complain about him because he said, ‘I am the bread that came down from heaven.’ 42They were saying, ‘Is not this Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? How can he now say, “I have come down from heaven”?’ 43Jesus answered them, ‘Do not complain among yourselves. 44No one can come to me unless drawn by the Father who sent me; and I will raise that person up on the last day. 45It is written in the prophets, “And they shall all be taught by God.” Everyone who has heard and learned from the Father comes to me. 46Not that anyone has seen the Father except the one who is from God; he has seen the Father. 47Very truly, I tell you, whoever believes has eternal life. 48I am the bread of life. 49Your ancestors ate the manna in the wilderness, and they died. 50This is the bread that comes down from heaven, so that one may eat of it and not die. 51I am the living bread that came down from heaven. Whoever eats of this bread will live for ever; and the bread that I will give for the life of the world is my flesh.’
52 The Jews then disputed among themselves, saying, ‘How can this man give us his flesh to eat?’ 53So Jesus said to them, ‘Very truly, I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. 54Those who eat my flesh and drink my blood have eternal life, and I will raise them up on the last day; 55for my flesh is true food and my blood is true drink. 56Those who eat my flesh and drink my blood abide in me, and I in them. 57Just as the living Father sent me, and I live because of the Father, so whoever eats me will live because of me. 58This is the bread that came down from heaven, not like that which your ancestors ate, and they died. But the one who eats this bread will live for ever.’ 59He said these things while he was teaching in the synagogue at Capernaum.
60 When many of his disciples heard it, they said, ‘This teaching is difficult; who can accept it?’ 61But Jesus, being aware that his disciples were complaining about it, said to them, ‘Does this offend you? 62Then what if you were to see the Son of Man ascending to where he was before? 63It is the spirit that gives life; the flesh is useless. The words that I have spoken to you are spirit and life. 64But among you there are some who do not believe.’ For Jesus knew from the first who were the ones that did not believe, and who was the one that would betray him. 65And he said, ‘For this reason I have told you that no one can come to me unless it is granted by the Father.’
66 Because of this many of his disciples turned back and no longer went about with him. 67So Jesus asked the twelve, ‘Do you also wish to go away?’ 68Simon Peter answered him, ‘Lord, to whom can we go? You have the words of eternal life. 69We have come to believe and know that you are the Holy One of God.’* 70Jesus answered them, ‘Did I not choose you, the twelve? Yet one of you is a devil.’ 71He was speaking of Judas son of Simon Iscariot,* for he, though one of the twelve, was going to betray him.
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HouseArrest
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Complaining about a shadow of an insult does make one look paranoid, but be careful. If I were going to tear down a building in front of someone’s eyes and didn’t want to be blamed for it, I wouldn’t use a stick of dynamite. I would get them used to seeing me take one brick at a time away, until they wondered where the building was.
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LORELLA
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This is one of the worst shows. What else is new? So much garbage on tv. Anything to put the church down. I can’t believe children too are watching this show. (parents allow it)Pray for these people. Pray for those who do not like our Catholic faith.
God bless
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Joe_5859
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That’s pretty much where I’m at, too. They take another potshot at Catholics. That’s a new one.
One would think they would realize that it’s no longer “edgy” because everyone has been doing that for years. 
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4EverHis
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I used to watch that show a long time ago, but I don’t anymore, for reasons such as this.
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