The sin of glutony;is it only food?

[live_for_jesus]

We konw about the sin of glutony, we may say that food is the main source for this sin. honestly i dont think so really. Can you please send your opinion on the matter, as i can commit this sin in a relationship…i/e what more time when enough is not enough].

another example is that i can be a slave for the fashion, anxious to buy clothes all the time, etc, can you think of something else?

 

[LilyM]

Certainly not - drink as well, for one thing, and possessions in a sense (although more properly that might be called avarice).

And there’s what’s called ‘gluttony of delicacy’ - in other words where the amount you eat or drink is fine but you’re overly obsessed with having only the best and most expensive.

 

[ricmat]

And there’s what’s called ‘gluttony of delicacy’ - in other words where the amount you eat or drink is fine but you’re overly obsessed with having only the best and most expensive.

LilyM, thanks for that definition. I have an Italian friend who berates Americans for eating so much, and brags about how he eats less - but only the best of everything. I didn’t know that this affliction had a real name.

 

[Trader]

I am very dissappointed by how seldom gluttony is even mentioned today. I would say that it covers any excess that can harm the body, including not only overeating, but smoking, drug and alcohol abuse, and even thrill seeking dangerous behaviors.

It seems to me that gluttony is not only a sin against our own bodies under the fifth commandment, but also a sin against justice that raises the cost of health care for everyone else. We frequently pray for the sick and uninsured in our parish, but we don’t seem to pray for people to behave better. Healthier choices would go a long way to solve the financial problems in US health care. Enormous resources are devoted to health problems that are preventable, or at least postponable, by making choices that recognize that we all have a duty not to burden others with our foolish, immoral and criminal behaviors.

Does that make sense to anyone else?

 

[LilyM]

LilyM, thanks for that definition. I have an Italian friend who berates Americans for eating so much, and brags about how he eats less - but only the best of everything. I didn’t know that this affliction had a real name.

Don’t thank me - I believe it comes from St Thomas Aquinas.

Having said that, your friend may be referring simply to preferring fresher and more natural foods to overprocessed fat-salt-and-sugar-laden chemical-ridden junk - nothing wrong with that at all!

 

[Island_Oak]

…Enormous resources are devoted to health problems that are preventable, or at least postponable, by making choices that recognize that we all have a duty not to burden others with our foolish, immoral and criminal behaviors.

Does that make sense to anyone else?

Absolutely…I couldn’t agree more. Wish we’d hear something creative and direct about this from the pulpit on occasion. It is truly an issue regarding which we can each make a difference through even modest individual efforts.

 

[Trader]

Absolutely…I couldn’t agree more. Wish we’d hear something creative and direct about this from the pulpit on occasion. It is truly an issue regarding which we can each make a difference through even modest individual efforts.

I have heard the word gluttony used from the pulpit exactly once in the last 35 years. It came from one of the African priests who serve in our Diocese of Fort Wayne-South Bend.

Can you imagine the cultural shock of coming from a place where people literally are dying from not eating enough to a place where people are dying from eating too much? Even in a city once named the “fattest city” in the US, he received applause at the end of his homily.

It was also his last Sunday in our parish. I hope the applause was for a good reason.

 

[Beautiful]

And there’s what’s called ‘gluttony of delicacy’ - in other words where the amount you eat or drink is fine but you’re overly obsessed with having only the best and most expensive.

It is also about being too particular. Your gluttony might not be for the finest or expensive only. Being overly particular about the temperature of your food & drink or how your table & bed is made is a form of gluttony.

 

[SherryLynn9]

It is also about being too particular. Your gluttony might not be for the finest or expensive only. Being overly particular about the temperature of your food & drink or how your table & bed is made is a form of gluttony.

Hi, this is what Wikipedia has to say on gluttony:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gluttony

Derived from the Latin gluttire, meaning to gulp down or swallow, gluttony is the over-indulgence and over-consumption of food, drink, or intoxicants to the point of waste. In the Christian religions, it is considered one of the seven deadly sins—a misplaced desire of food or its withholding from the needy.[1]
Depending on the culture, it can be seen as either a vice or a sign of status. The relative affluence of the society can affect this view both ways. A wealthy group might take pride in the security of having enough food to eat to show it off, but it could also result in a moral backlash when confronted with the reality of those less fortunate.
Early Church leaders (e.g., Thomas Aquinas) took a more expansive view of gluttony (Okholm 2000), arguing that it could also include an obsessive anticipation of meals, and the constant eating of delicacies and excessively costly foods.[2] He went so far as to prepare a list of five ways to commit gluttony, including:

• Praepropere - eating too soon
• Laute - eating too expensively
• Nimis - eating too much
• Ardenter - eating too eagerly
• Studiose - eating too daintily

 

[Jeanette_L]

The sin of gluttony has something in common with most other sins that are habitual, it becomes an obsession, it takes over your life. And, after all, it is the American Way. More, more, more of everything. More money, more luxury, more gadgets, more clothing, more food, more sex. There’s no end to it all.

I agree, the sin of gluttony should be publicly addressed more, though not exclusively, but inclusively, with all habitual sin, all sin period. We have a habit in religious circles to focus on particular sins, (sins du jour) and put the spotlight on them. And when we are tired of hearing about them, we pick new ones and move on (usually trying to pick the ones we personally don’t have a problem with). They all lead to the same place - ruin, whether physical or spiritual or both.

The one habit we as religious people don’t seem to be able to corner though, is compassion for those who are caught in habitual sin and struggle often to the point of despair.

 

[whatevergirl]

We konw about the sin of glutony, we may say that food is the main source for this sin. honestly i dont think so really. Can you please send your opinion on the matter, as i can commit this sin in a relationship…i/e what more time when enough is not enough].

another example is that i can be a slave for the fashion, anxious to buy clothes all the time, etc, can you think of something else?

gluttony for the secular world, really…i look at it that way. too much tv…food…drink…sleep…work…

…internet. nah, that can’t be included.

 

[live_for_jesus]

I am very dissappointed by how seldom gluttony is even mentioned today. I would say that it covers any excess that can harm the body, including not only overeating, but smoking, drug and alcohol abuse, and even thrill seeking dangerous behaviors.

It seems to me that gluttony is not only a sin against our own bodies under the fifth commandment, but also a sin against justice that raises the cost of health care for everyone else. We frequently pray for the sick and uninsured in our parish, but we don’t seem to pray for people to behave better. Healthier choices would go a long way to solve the financial problems in US health care. Enormous resources are devoted to health problems that are preventable, or at least postponable, by making choices that recognize that we all have a duty not to burden others with our foolish, immoral and criminal behaviors.

Does that make sense to anyone else?

Of course this does make sense, in fact we know that when we sin we seperate ourselves from God and from each other. when we do not consider that others have the right to a healthy enviorment, we are creating a barrier with each other and with God, remember the golden rule?“Mt 7:12, so always treat others as you would like them to treat you:that is the law and the prophets”

we have a lot of work to do!!!

God bless you

 

[live_for_jesus]

The word gluttony stems from the Latin gluttire, meaning to swallow or gulp down, but is also understood to mean overindulgence in any material item…. ,

my opinion even in a any relationship , one could be suffocating another person…forbidding him/her to live freely, in other words we need the right balance in everything, not just in food, drink, etc.

with God’s grace…WE CAN:thumbsup:

 

[live_for_jesus]

gluttony for the secular world, really…i look at it that way. too much tv…food…drink…sleep…work…

…internet. nah, that can’t be included.

SORRY TO DISSAPOINT YOU, YEP INTERNET TOO!

 

[Trader]

How about a little irony? This just appeared on my computer screen and I don’t know how it got there.

Would you accept weight control advice from someone who weighs more than 300 pounds? I would not not call him fat, especially not to his face.

shaqsfamilychallenge.com/publicsite/funnel/index.aspx

My own weight control secret is available for a very modest price: say any small prayer for me. I started high school at 5’4" and 145 lbs. I graduated at 6’1" and 145 lbs. It’s all will power. If you are willing to grow 9 inches taller, you may not need to lose weight!

 

[Sr_Sally]

My own weight control secret is available for a very modest price: say any small prayer for me. I started high school at 5’4" and 145 lbs. I graduated at 6’1" and 145 lbs. It’s all will power. If you are willing to grow 9 inches taller, you may not need to lose weight!

I have frequently said that! I am not too heavy for my height–I am too short for my weight! LOL

Of course St. Thomas, like Shaq, was both tall and big. Not a wasting hermit in the desert! But definately a mind to be reckoned with and since he’s a Saint (and so far neither Shaq nor I are), I’ll listen to his counsel.

 

[whatevergirl]

SORRY TO DISSAPOINT YOU, YEP INTERNET TOO!

:crying:

 

[puzzleannie]

I think gluttony can refer to any pleasure of the senses when that pleasure is preferred to the exclusion of duty to God, duty to family, duty to one’s neighbor, and damage to one’s own physical, mental or spiritual health. I think an undue “pickiness” to the degree that it causes pain or harm to self or others is also wrong and comes under this sin. For instance, anorexia or bulemia, assuming the person has full free will to choose such actions, could be sinful. I am thinking also of the mother of Screwtape’s victim who plagued others by refusing food that was served because it was too much, too rich, asking instead for a perfectly boiled egg instead of the steak, then rejecting it because it was not properly prepared.

someone who inconveniences every one else at work or in the home because the temperature is always too hot or too cold, and makes herself a nuisance with the heat or A/C.

someone who not necessarily eats too much, but always has to have the first piece, the biggest piece, the piece with the flower on it, the perfect piece. I think of a cousin who could not see a box of chocolates without testing most of the pieces by taking a small bite out, then putting the ones back she didn’t like.
Another instance would be a spiritual gluttony, an example used by a priest on a reteat once. He used the example of a person who is constantly driving around to healing services every night of the week, or driving around to look at all the “Mary on a tortilla” or “Christ on a tree trunk” sightings, seeking out so-called visionaries and locutionists, church hopping to find emotional experiences rather than for true worship. Someone who multiplies ministries, devotions, pious practices, for the pleasure and satisfaction they get, not from true love of Christ and not from devotion or desire to grow in holiness and humilty.

 

[live_for_jesus]

I think gluttony can refer to any pleasure of the senses when that pleasure is preferred to the exclusion of duty to God, duty to family, duty to one’s neighbor, and damage to one’s own physical, mental or spiritual health. I think an undue “pickiness” to the degree that it causes pain or harm to self or others is also wrong and comes under this sin. For instance, anorexia or bulemia, assuming the person has full free will to choose such actions, could be sinful. I am thinking also of the mother of Screwtape’s victim who plagued others by refusing food that was served because it was too much, too rich, asking instead for a perfectly boiled egg instead of the steak, then rejecting it because it was not properly prepared.

someone who inconveniences every one else at work or in the home because the temperature is always too hot or too cold, and makes herself a nuisance with the heat or A/C.

someone who not necessarily eats too much, but always has to have the first piece, the biggest piece, the piece with the flower on it, the perfect piece. I think of a cousin who could not see a box of chocolates without testing most of the pieces by taking a small bite out, then putting the ones back she didn’t like.
Another instance would be a spiritual gluttony, an example used by a priest on a reteat once. He used the example of a person who is constantly driving around to healing services every night of the week, or driving around to look at all the “Mary on a tortilla” or “Christ on a tree trunk” sightings, seeking out so-called visionaries and locutionists, church hopping to find emotional experiences rather than for true worship. Someone who multiplies ministries, devotions, pious practices, for the pleasure and satisfaction they get, not from true love of Christ and not from devotion or desire to grow in holiness and humilty.

can’t agree more, the kind of answer that i was looking for,…as the sin of gluttony can also enter in spiritual things,when they seem good things, but we want more,more and more as you rightly said so, for our emotional experience.

Give you my own example …few years back [when i was younger ] i was invovlved in a lot of prayer meetings, and used to go to healing services too, mind you i’m sure God sees also the individual’s intentions, ] until one day during my prayers ,a small still voice within me said “stop everything”, i obviously obeyed as i knew that it was coming from above. thank God that i did obey as the experience i had of God afterwards was so beautiful and the peace that i felt was out of this world.!!! God is good, our teacher, our councellor, our saviour

 

[Teeliumtrozzle]

Gluttony is anything unhealthy that you do to excess, such as smoking or anything else.It covers drunkeness too.