The sinfulness of dreams

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I’ve been having frequent dreams where my husband is there, in the dream I will say something about his having died. Most recently I said to him in the dream “I know you are dead so this must be a dream, but, I want to stay here forever”. My rational mind was seeping in, but, that does not mean I was controlling the dream.

Heck, if lucid dreaming was real, I would simply live in a dream state for the rest of my life!
 
My husband shows up from time to time but his last major dramatic appearance was on our first anniversary after he died. He came back looking like he did at age 33 ( I also was about that age as I was wearing an outfit from that era) and very happy. I jumped out of my chair in the dream saying, “You didn’t die! You’re alive!”
God permitted him to let me know he was okay.

Yes, if I could control dreams I would have more of that, and less of the dreams where I do things like miss plane flights and do embarrassing or even illegal acts in public.
 
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I wonder why the “without pants” dreams are so common.
When I was young, it was an ordeal to keep pants on me. I was the free spirit in the house. My father would watch me run by, then announce: “Honey! Tarzan’s loose again!” Mom would say, “Oh my, you NEED to keep your pants ON! Repeat occasionally over about four years.
Never outdoors though. Used to be a family joke.
Dominus vobiscum
 
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Kei said:
Now, if you made a decision in your dream (some people can supposedly control their dreams through “lucid dreaming”) then it may be sinful.
But for the most part we don’t make decisions in dreams. Dreams may be trying to tell you something deep inside your psyche, however.
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Even in “lucid” dreaming, the will is completely inoperative, so one cannot sin even if one is dreaming lucidly.

The proof of this is that one wakes up in the real world and realizes it was a dream. There is clearly a difference between the two perceptions.

It is impossible to sin when asleep, “lucid” dream or not.
 
Huh? How is the will inoperative if the lucid dreamer makes what he WANTS to happen happen? How does he have wants? Or is it just a want the dream is making happen? Because, to me, lucid dreamers make it sound like they really make what they want to happen happen. They realize they’re dreaming while in the dream and utilize that to live out whatever they want to live out in the dream, from what I understand. So to me it is very odd.
Of course, I don’t lucid dream and am only going off others’ accounts. If you know better then so be it. It is difficult for me to understand if that is the case.
 
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Because you are asleep.

“Lucid” dreaming, while providing an illusion of control, is still an illusion and is not real. In “lucid” dreams, dreamers report the ability to defy gravity and fly, for example. Well, man does not fly. This means both the experience and the “will” are not real, and the “will” is therefore not operative. You can tell the difference when you wake up and tell yourself “it was just a dream”.

It is impossible for the will to operate in a state disconnected from reality. It is therefore impossible to sin while asleep.
 
Why do you say the will cannot operate in a state separated from reality? That seems untrue as I can will myself to imagine all sorts of fantastical things that are unrealistic.
What separates that from a dream? Unless you are saying that even though lucid dreamers say they can manipulate their dreams, this is only a dream-induced illusion (if you are saying this, I would like some sort of citation showing it).
 
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I’ve never had the without pants dream, for me it is without shoes or without makeup.
 
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I’ve never had the without pants dream, for me it is without shoes or without makeup.
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The class I signed up for and forgot and never went to, but I find it is past the drop date. Of course that is not an actual act of negligence.

I definitely don’t ask for those; I’m not taking responsibility for any other time when the blender in my brain spits out something that would be a sin.
 
That’s exactly what I was trying to say earlier. And the thing is, since lucid dreaming clearly happens when someone is dreaming, the default assumption should be that they aren’t awake. Indeed what we would need proof for is the claim that they are awake enough to be fully rational in their dream.

When you dream you are being chased by a monster, we assume the monster is the dream-induced illusion, not that there is a real monster. When you dream you can fly, we assume it is a dream induced illusion, not that you can fly. Why wouldn’t we also assume that lucid dreaming is the same kind of illusion.

Don’t get me wrong, I think lucid dreaming is closer to being awake than regular dreaming, but that doesn’t mean the rational mind is waking up.
 
Yes, they are asleep. Of course! But, people when awake describe their lucid dreams as though they had control over them, so who am I to say otherwise? If it were an illusion, you should realize it when awake, no? When I think I chose to do something in a dream, and then wake up, I realize it was a dream and that I didn’t actually choose to do the thing. But it seems much different for those who claim to lucid dream.
 
I would think “lucid” dreams are those dreams you remember lucidly after you wake up. Some dreams I clearly remember what happened in them, and others I’m totally unable to recall the minute I wake up. I’ve had both kinds.

My frequent dreams involve being in a different city or town and always being unable to find the freeway entrance I need to drive home. In other words, being lost.

I’ve also had dreams of using toilets without any doors on them, and people around.

More than once I’ve dreamed of trying to make a phone call and I just can’t dial in the number correctly, and I keep trying and trying and can’t get it right.

I once dreamed of being stuck on a department store escalator and being unable to get off of it by any means. It was going up, and into clouds.

I call those my “desperate dreams”, as I always find myself in some desperate or frustrating situation.

Never had any no pants dreams that I can recall.
 
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