No.Hi Protestant friends :tiphat:
Is the sinners prayer in the King James Version of the Bible?
Thanks and God bless,
Jonfan
I’m not trying to insult anybody.I believe that such a tactic would be counterproductive and even insulting to educated Protestants. Even “sola Scriptura” Protestants understand that a thing may appear in Scripture but not in a word-for-word say. For example, they accept the doctrine of the Holy Trinity, although it is nowhere specifically articulated in Scripture.
You might do better to ask them what the Scriptural foundations are for their belief that the sinner’s prayer is the ticket to eternal security. Some of 'em might actually be able to give you an answer. Of course, it won’t withstand serious scrutiny based on a comprehensive view of Scripture, but that is another story.
Some Protestants don’t accept the term Holy Trinity. They accept the “Godhead” because the word Godhead appears in the KJV Bible.I believe that such a tactic would be counterproductive and even insulting to educated Protestants. Even “sola Scriptura” Protestants understand that a thing may appear in Scripture but not in a word-for-word say. For example, they accept the doctrine of the Holy Trinity, although it is nowhere specifically articulated in Scripture.
You might do better to ask them what the Scriptural foundations are for their belief that the sinner’s prayer is the ticket to eternal security. Some of 'em might actually be able to give you an answer. Of course, it won’t withstand serious scrutiny based on a comprehensive view of Scripture, but that is another story.
Understood. Good point. But “orthodox” Christianity, even of the Protestant kind, even of the extremely evangelical kind, requires belief in the Trinity in order to label yourself “Christian.” “Godhead” or Oneness Pentecostals, JWs etc. are wandering off into the land of the cults.Some Protestants don’t accept the term Holy Trinity. They accept the “Godhead” because the word Godhead appears in the KJV Bible.
Thanks and God bless,
Jonfan
Thank you for your answer. Would you say the sinners prayer is a man made doctrine then?I have never found the sinners prayer in the Bible but i beleive that God could use it a vehicle to make someone award he has granted them to gift of salvation… However I have found election or as some call it Calvinism in the Bible.
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I don’t think there is anything wrong with the Sinner’s Prayer.Hi Protestant friends :tiphat:
Is the sinners prayer in the King James Version of the Bible?
Thanks and God bless,
Jonfan
I agree. I have nothing against the sinners prayer. I think it is nice and reflective of the Apostles Creed. It points to Christ but it wasn’t written by Christ or by his followers in the Bible yet many follow this prayer. Does this make the prayer wrong just because it was man made?I don’t think there is anything wrong with the Sinner’s Prayer.
I think it’s one of those things that started off Catholic (because as Trelow pointed out, the Act of Contrition could be considered a “sinner’s prayer” too), and became adapted to Protestant theology.
True, you won’t find either the Act of Contrition or the Sinner’s Prayer in Scripture, but the concept behind them both is certainly Scriptural.
:clapping: Yes.I think what Jonfan may be driving at is this: There are Evangelical Christians who demand that Catholics supply the words pope or immaculate conception or purgatory strictly from the Bible. Of course, those words don’t exist in the Bible. But then, neither do the words: trinity, virgin birth, God-man, and yet Evangelicals believe in those concepts.
Also, liturgical Christians are often challenged by some Evangelicals to “pray the sinner’s prayer” in order to assure them of their salvation, the assumption being that that alone makes one a Christian, even though that phrase and that prayer are nowhere to be found in the Bible. I think Jonfan is pointing out the inconsistency of their position if they insist on demanding Catholics and other liturgical Christians must do what they themselves cannot and will not do. Am I right?
And baptised. All the repentance in the world can’t do the work of a little water and the Holy Spirit.The sinners’ prayer is simply an evangelistic tool to help someone who may not know how to pray to form the words of repentance and ask Christ to be their Lord and Savior. The scenario should go something like this:
The problem with most approaches to using the sinner’s prayer is that a person is left with the understanding that all they need to do is pray that prayer and all is taken care of. However, the person needs to then be discipled and this is where many people fail in their evangelization of others. They go on to someone else and leave the other person behind to fend for themselves and very often that person never continues on in the faith, never grows, and often falls back into the same sinful lifestyle they were living.
- You present the Gospel of Christ to a sinner. You lay the claims of God in front of them and confront them (nicely) with their need for forgiveness and reconcilation with God, etc etc.
- You then ask that person if they understand this and if they would like to repent of their sins and ask Christ to be their Savior. If the person says yes, you ask them if they would like to pray for forgiveness and ask the Lord to save them.
- If they do not know what to say or how to pray, you lead them in the sinners prayer.
- After the prayer, you assure them that if they have been truly repentant, then God does forgive their sins and welcomes them as one of his children (or some such words, similar to what the priest does in confession).
- Now, you encourage that person to find a Church, become involved in parish life, and begin reading the Bible, usually starting with the Gospel of John.
- As much as possible, you should follow up with that person in discipleship to help them grow in the faith.
The sinners’ prayer is a tool and like other tools it must be used correctly and not as a cure-all and not as the final test of one’s salvation. Nor is it the correct tool for every situation you encounter.
++Mark
And not one single group in all of your statement knows the truth…Understood. Good point. But “orthodox” Christianity, even of the Protestant kind, even of the extremely evangelical kind, requires belief in the Trinity in order to label yourself “Christian.” “Godhead” or Oneness Pentecostals, JWs etc. are wandering off into the land of the cults.
I would not call it a doctrine but I would call it a man made tool for evangelizing. Some one that has heard the Gospel and feels the need to pray the sinners prayer God probably already has saved themThank you for your answer. Would you say the sinners prayer is a man made doctrine then?
Thanks and God bless,
Jonfan
And baptised. All the repentance in the world can’t do the work of a little water and the Holy Spirit.