The Sole Mediator between God and Man

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I have “asked an Apologist” and got no reply. My question is: if Christ is the Sole Mediator between God and Man (1 Tim. 2: 5), why do many Catholics regard Mary as a “Mediatrix” or “Redemptrix”?

I am a faithful and loyal Catholic, but I am having a hard time with this. I get the difference between mediator and intercessor, but I’m got a BIG issue with this. Can someone (peferably clergy) clear this up for me? I need an answer.
 
Read “Treatise on the True Devotion” by St. Louis-Marie Grignon de Montfort, keeping in mind that it has been approved and praised by the Church and personally by many popes ever since it was written. There you will find all the answers you need.

In short: while Christ is indeed the only Mediator between God and Man, the Son took flesh from Mary, thus it is through Mary that God came to Man.

In fact, the theology is very, very profound. Don’t take it lightly, and don’t approach it with protestant mindset: she is who she is by God’s will, and the Church does nothing but acknowledge what the Spirit reveals.
 
You might find this helpful…

Mary, Mother of Salvation
How to Explain the “Co-Redemptrix” to Evangelicals


Extract…
In an astounding phrase, St. Paul says that his sharing in Christ’s sufferings is actually effective. It completes “what is lacking in Christ’s afflictions” on behalf of the Church (Col. 1:24). If he has to complete Christ’s sufferings is St. Paul implying that Christ’s death on the cross was inadequate? Not at all. Instead, he is teaching that the all-sufficient sacrifice has to be completed by being preached, accepted, and embraced by our cooperation and that our suffering plays a mysterious part in this action. In that way the Redemption of Christ is applied and brought alive in the present moment by our own cooperation in that one, full, final sacrifice. No one says we are equal to Christ; instead, by grace, our cooperation becomes a part of Christ’s all sufficient sacrifice.
If Paul shared in a mysterious way in Christ’s sufferings, and if by doing so he shared in the redemptive work of the cross, then it is not too difficult to see how we are all called to do the same thing. In fact, in Romans 12, Paul exhorts us to do just that when he says, “Present your bodies as a living sacrifice”(Rom. 12:1). Jesus also tells us that we must “take up our cross and follow him if we would be his disciples” (Matt. 16:24).
If Mary was the person who was closest to Jesus, and if she was his first disciple, doesn’t it follow that these truths would also apply to her? This is just what the New Testament prophesies. When Jesus was presented in the temple, the prophet Simeon, under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, told Mary that “a sword will pierce your own heart also” (Luke 2:35). This verse is the basis for the Catholic understanding that Mary shared in the sufferings of Jesus in a mysterious way, and that her sufferings were a part of the suffering he went through.
BTW, it was some of these verses which pushed me along the road to Catholicism, when I came across them in my private reading of the Bible.
 
I can accept her role in our salvation insofar as her role in bringing Christ Jesus to us so HE could save us… Still trying…

Is THIS correct? ~ Mary’s role as Co-Redeemer and Mediatrix of grace is not a formally defined dogma of the Catholic Church. It remains a pious opinion…
 
It remains a pious opinion…
It remains part of Sacred Tradition.

vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p123a9p6.htm
CCC 969 …] Therefore the Blessed Virgin is invoked in the Church under the titles of Advocate, Helper, Benefactress, and Mediatrix.
CCC 964 Mary’s role in the Church is inseparable from her union with Christ and flows directly from it. “**This union of the mother with the Son in the work of salvation **is made manifest from the time of Christ’s virginal conception up to his death”
Pope Benedict XVI in “Theological highlights of Vatican II” also states the titles co-redemptrix" and “mediatrix of all graces” are" under the protection of papal teaching".
 
“There is but one Mediator as we know from the words of the apostle, “for there is one God and one mediator of God and men, the man Christ Jesus, who gave himself a redemption for all”.(298) The maternal duty of Mary toward men in no wise obscures or diminishes this unique mediation of Christ, but rather shows His power. For all the salvific influence of the Blessed Virgin on men originates, not from some inner necessity, but from the divine pleasure. It flows forth from the superabundance of the merits of Christ, rests on His mediation, depends entirely on it and draws all its power from it. In no way does it impede, but rather does it foster the immediate union of the faithful with Christ.”

–Second Vatican Council- Lumen Gentium
 
Moses was a mediator between God and man.

The author of Hebrews writing about Christ being the “One mediator between God and man” has to be taken in context. The context is the mosaic law and atonement for sin by a priest - that’s the whole point of the Book of Hebrews.

Only Christ atones for sin because only he is the perfect sacrifice. Only Christ is the Great High Priest because only he can make the perfect offering of himself. Therefor he is the only effective mediator between God and man.

When the people witnessed the thunder and lightning, the trumpet blast and the mountain smoking, they all feared and trembled. So they took up a position much farther away and said to Moses, “You speak to us, and we will listen; but let not God speak to us, or we shall die.” Moses answered the people, “Do not be afraid, for God has come to you only to test you and put his fear upon you, lest you should sin.” Still the people remained at a distance, while Moses approached the cloud where God was. (Exodus 20:18-21)

Moses went up and down the mountain, bringing God’s message to the people and then bringing the people’s message back to God. Moses went up and down the mountain five times in the Book of Exodus, mediating between God and man. The New American Bible even has the heading “Moses Chosen as Mediator” over that section of the narrative.

So Hebrews is talking about Christ being the one effective, one perfect mediator, not the only mediator. It has to be taken in context.

-Tim-
 
St. Pope Pius X

vatican.va/holy_father/pius_x/encyclicals/documents/hf_p-x_enc_02021904_ad-diem-illum-laetissimum_en.html

"13. It cannot, of course, be denied that the dispensation of these treasures is the particular and peculiar right of Jesus Christ, for they are the exclusive fruit of His Death, who by His nature is the mediator between God and man. Nevertheless, by this companionship in sorrow and suffering already mentioned between the Mother and the Son, **it has been allowed to the august Virgin to be the most powerful mediatrix and advocate of the whole world with her Divine Son **(Pius IX. Ineffabilis). The source, then, is Jesus Christ “of whose fullness we have all received” (John i., 16), “from whom the whole body, being compacted and fitly joined together by what every joint supplieth, according to the operation in the measure of every part, maketh increase of the body unto the edifying of itself in charity” (Ephesians iv., 16). But Mary, as St. Bernard justly remarks, is the channel (Serm. de temp on the Nativ. B. V. De Aquaeductu n. 4); or, if you will, the connecting portion the function of which is to join the body to the head and to transmit to the body the influences and volitions of the head - We mean the neck. Yes, says St. Bernardine of Sienna, “she is the neck of Our Head, by which He communicates to His mystical body all spiritual gifts” (Quadrag. de Evangel. aetern. Serm. x., a. 3, c. iii.). "
 
I have “asked an Apologist” and got no reply. My question is: if Christ is the Sole Mediator between God and Man (1 Tim. 2: 5), why do many Catholics regard Mary as a “Mediatrix” or “Redemptrix”?
I’m not clergy, but…

Mary as Mediatrix Proved From Scripture

The Catholic Church recognizes Mary’s role in salvation history and invokes her under the title of Mediatrix. However, many people struggle to understand how Mary can have this role which they reserve for Christ alone, and they cite the following verse in support of their position:

1 Timothy 2:5-6
5For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, 6who gave himself as a ransom for all men—the testimony given in its proper time.

Is this the complete picture of what the Bible has to say about the role of mediator? Let’s take a closer look at some verses which provide a bigger perspective on this important topic.

Hebrews 7:24-25
because Jesus lives forever, he has a permanent priesthood. 25Therefore he is able to save completely those who come to God through him, because he always lives to intercede for them.

Here we see that Jesus “always lives to intercede” for “those who come to God through him.” The role of the mediator and the intercessor are synonymous; a mediator lives to intercede for others.

All Christians are called to be mediators or intercessors for one another because we are all members of Christ’s body as we see from Paul’s letter to the Ephesians:

Ephesians 1:22-23
“And God placed all things under his feet and appointed him to be head over everything for the church, 23which is his body, the fullness of him who fills everything in every way.”

Paul referred to himself as a co-laborer with Christ when he wrote:

1 Corinthians 3:9
For we are God’s fellow workers.

Paul went further in his understanding of our responsibility as co-laborers with Christ when when he wrote:

Colossians 1:24
Now I rejoice in what was suffered for you, and I fill up in my flesh what is still lacking in regard to Christ’s afflictions, for the sake of his body, which is the church.

Is anything lacking from the perfect sacrifice that Christ offered upon the Cross? Paul clearly indicates that more is to be done and that he makes up what is “still lacking” in his own flesh.

2 Corinthians 1:6
If we are afflicted, it is for your comfort and salvation

Additionally, we know that we are called to share in the priesthood of all believers (cf. 1 Peter 2:5-9), and a priest, by definition, is called to be a mediator between God and men. Each of us is called to this role and to be a mediator or mediatrix for others before God.

Therefore, if we are all called to this role of mediator and intercessor for one another, how much more can this be said of Mary who said, “Yes” to God and brought Christ into the world?

Speaking of this, the Catechism of the Catholic Church states:

967 By her complete adherence to the Father’s will, to his Son’s redemptive work, and to every prompting of the Holy Spirit, the Virgin Mary is the Church’s model of faith and charity. Thus she is a “preeminent and . . . wholly unique member of the Church”; indeed, she is the “exemplary realization” (typus) of the Church.

968 Her role in relation to the Church and to all humanity goes still further. “In a wholly singular way she cooperated by her obedience, faith, hope, and burning charity in the Savior’s work of restoring supernatural life to souls. For this reason she is a mother to us in the order of grace.”

969 “This motherhood of Mary in the order of grace continues uninterruptedly from the consent which she loyally gave at the Annunciation and which she sustained without wavering beneath the cross, until the eternal fulfillment of all the elect. Taken up to heaven she did not lay aside this saving office but by her manifold intercession continues to bring us the gifts of eternal salvation . . . . Therefore the Blessed Virgin is invoked in the Church under the titles of Advocate, Helper, Benefactress, and Mediatrix.”

970"Mary’s function as mother of men in no way obscures or diminishes this unique mediation of Christ, but rather shows its power. But the Blessed Virgin’s salutary influence on men . . . flows forth from the superabundance of the merits of Christ, rests on his mediation, depends entirely on it, and draws all its power from it." “No creature could ever be counted along with the Incarnate Word and Redeemer; but just as the priesthood of Christ is shared in various ways both by his ministers and the faithful, and as the one goodness of God is radiated in different ways among his creatures, so also the unique mediation of the Redeemer does not exclude but rather gives rise to a manifold cooperation which is but a sharing in this one source.”
 
The Catholic Church recognizes Mary’s role in salvation history and invokes her under the title of Mediatrix. However, many people struggle to understand how Mary can have this role which they reserve for Christ alone, and they cite the following verse in support of their position:

1 Timothy 2:5-6
5For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, 6who gave himself as a ransom for all men—the testimony given in its proper time.

Is this the complete picture of what the Bible has to say about the role of mediator? Let’s take a closer look at some verses which provide a bigger perspective on this important topic.

Hebrews 7:24-25
because Jesus lives forever, he has a permanent priesthood. 25Therefore he is able to save completely those who come to God through him, because he always lives to intercede for them.

Here we see that Jesus “always lives to intercede” for “those who come to God through him.” The role of the mediator and the intercessor are synonymous; a mediator lives to intercede for others.

All Christians are called to be mediators or intercessors for one another because we are all members of Christ’s body as we see from Paul’s letter to the Ephesians:

Ephesians 1:22-23
“And God placed all things under his feet and appointed him to be head over everything for the church, 23which is his body, the fullness of him who fills everything in every way.”

Paul referred to himself as a co-laborer with Christ when he wrote:

1 Corinthians 3:9
For we are God’s fellow workers.

Paul went further in his understanding of our responsibility as co-laborers with Christ when when he wrote:

Colossians 1:24
Now I rejoice in what was suffered for you, and I fill up in my flesh what is still lacking in regard to Christ’s afflictions, for the sake of his body, which is the church.

Is anything lacking from the perfect sacrifice that Christ offered upon the Cross? Paul clearly indicates that more is to be done and that he makes up what is “still lacking” in his own flesh.

2 Corinthians 1:6
If we are afflicted, it is for your comfort and salvation

Additionally, we know that we are called to share in the priesthood of all believers (cf. 1 Peter 2:5-9), and a priest, by definition, is called to be a mediator between God and men. Each of us is called to this role and to be a mediator or mediatrix for others before God.

Therefore, if we are all called to this role of mediator and intercessor for one another, how much more can this be said of Mary who said, “Yes” to God and brought Christ into the world?

Speaking of this, the Catechism of the Catholic Church states:

967 By her complete adherence to the Father’s will, to his Son’s redemptive work, and to every prompting of the Holy Spirit, the Virgin Mary is the Church’s model of faith and charity. Thus she is a “preeminent and . . . wholly unique member of the Church”; indeed, she is the “exemplary realization” (typus) of the Church.

968 Her role in relation to the Church and to all humanity goes still further. “In a wholly singular way she cooperated by her obedience, faith, hope, and burning charity in the Savior’s work of restoring supernatural life to souls. For this reason she is a mother to us in the order of grace.”

969 “This motherhood of Mary in the order of grace continues uninterruptedly from the consent which she loyally gave at the Annunciation and which she sustained without wavering beneath the cross, until the eternal fulfillment of all the elect. Taken up to heaven she did not lay aside this saving office but by her manifold intercession continues to bring us the gifts of eternal salvation . . . . Therefore the Blessed Virgin is invoked in the Church under the titles of Advocate, Helper, Benefactress, and Mediatrix.”

970"Mary’s function as mother of men in no way obscures or diminishes this unique mediation of Christ, but rather shows its power. But the Blessed Virgin’s salutary influence on men . . . flows forth from the superabundance of the merits of Christ, rests on his mediation, depends entirely on it, and draws all its power from it." “No creature could ever be counted along with the Incarnate Word and Redeemer; but just as the priesthood of Christ is shared in various ways both by his ministers and the faithful, and as the one goodness of God is radiated in different ways among his creatures, so also the unique mediation of the Redeemer does not exclude but rather gives rise to a manifold cooperation which is but a sharing in this one source.”
Mother of the Church, yes. Our spiritual mother, yes.

A SuperSaint of 1st order, yes. Able to hear our prayers…and beseech Christ on our behalf, yes. An advocate for us, with small a …yes.

But, Christ taught that would send the ADVOCATE, COUNSELOR to us on his departure. And, it wasn’t to be Mary …but, the HOLY SPIRIT…who would intercede for down here, in our prayers/ meditations.

Does Mary have powers the other SuperSaints lack, that only she can provide ? I see nothing in SS that teaches this.
 
Mother of the Church, yes. Our spiritual mother, yes.

A SuperSaint of 1st order, yes. Able to hear our prayers…and beseech Christ on our behalf, yes. An advocate for us, with small a …yes.

But, Christ taught that would send the ADVOCATE, COUNSELOR to us on his departure. And, it wasn’t to be Mary …but, the HOLY SPIRIT…who would intercede for down here, in our prayers/ meditations.

Does Mary have powers the other SuperSaints lack, that only she can provide ? I see nothing in SS that teaches this.
How does calling Mary our advocate take away from the role of the Holy Spirit? 🤷

The Church is not suggesting that Mary is our ONLY advocate nor would it make sense that only the Holy Spirit can advocate for us since I can pray on your behalf right now.
 
Mother of the Church, yes. Our spiritual mother, yes.

A SuperSaint of 1st order, yes. Able to hear our prayers…and beseech Christ on our behalf, yes. An advocate for us, with small a …yes.

But, Christ taught that would send the ADVOCATE, COUNSELOR to us on his departure. And, it wasn’t to be Mary …but, the HOLY SPIRIT…who would intercede for down here, in our prayers/ meditations.

Does Mary have powers the other SuperSaints lack, that only she can provide ? I see nothing in SS that teaches this.
Actually if you pay close attention we see Mary and the Holy Spirit working together. When Mary visits Elizabeth, Elizabeth is inspired by the Holy Spirit in praise of Mary, John is sanctified.

At Cana she intercedes for Christs first miracle. Which was a prompting of the Holy Spirit.

At the Cross Christ gives us His Mother as Our Mother and seeing all things were finished He gives up His Spirit.

The infant Church at pentacost Mary was present with the disciples.

These two gifts made by Jesus from the Cross, (Mary and the Holy Spirit) are intimately connected, inseparable from each other; the Spirit is present wherever the action of the Most Blessed Virgin takes place.
 
Actually if you pay close attention we see Mary and the Holy Spirit working together. When Mary visits Elizabeth, Elizabeth is inspired by the Holy Spirit in praise of Mary, John is sanctified.

At Cana she intercedes for Christs first miracle. Which was a prompting of the Holy Spirit.

At the Cross Christ gives us His Mother as Our Mother and seeing all things were finished He gives up His Spirit.

The infant Church at pentacost Mary was present with the disciples.

These two gifts made by Jesus from the Cross, (Mary and the Holy Spirit) are intimately connected, inseparable from each other; the Spirit is present wherever the action of the Most Blessed Virgin takes place

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U may be on to something profound …with this connection. Can u elaborate ?
 
I have “asked an Apologist” and got no reply. My question is: if Christ is the Sole Mediator between God and Man (1 Tim. 2: 5), why do many Catholics regard Mary as a “Mediatrix” or “Redemptrix”?

I am a faithful and loyal Catholic, but I am having a hard time with this. I get the difference between mediator and intercessor, but I’m got a BIG issue with this. Can someone (peferably clergy) clear this up for me? I need an answer.
The doctrine of One Mediator is not that Jesus is the one mediator in every spiritual matter whatsoever. It is the doctrine that Jesus is the only mediator of redemption. For proof you only need to read the verse in context: “[5] There is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, [6] who gave himself as a ransom for all men—the testimony given in its proper time.” Jesus is the only one who ransomed us from the power of sin and death. Mary didn’t do that, Abraham didn’t do that, Peter and Paul didn’t do that. Only Jesus gave that to us from heaven. That’s what the doctrine of one mediator is. The idea that Jesus is the only intercessor in heaven, is not taught in the context or the main text. It is not what the term “mediator” is used for in the context. It is connected to the redemption in verse 6 because it is talking about the redemption in verse 5. Other people are still intercessors, including Mary. The passage says nothing against that.
 
I have “asked an Apologist” and got no reply. My question is: if Christ is the Sole Mediator between God and Man (1 Tim. 2: 5), why do many Catholics regard Mary as a “Mediatrix” or “Redemptrix”?

I am a faithful and loyal Catholic, but I am having a hard time with this. I get the difference between mediator and intercessor, but I’m got a BIG issue with this. Can someone (peferably clergy) clear this up for me? I need an answer.
Do yet another “Mary as the Mediatrix of all Graces” thread?

The Pope on Co-redemptrix 
“Yet when asked, in a 2000 interview by Peter Seewald contained in the book God and the World, whether the Church would go along with the desire to solemnly define Mary as Co-redemptrix, Ratzinger’s response doesn’t look good.

He says that the title Co-redemptrix “departs to too great an extent from the language of Scripture and of the Fathers and therefore gives rise to misunderstandings” (53). He also says that “for matters of faith, continuity of terminology with the language of Scripture and that of the Fathers is itself an essential element; it is improper simply to manipulate language” (54). “
Here’s the entire thread.
forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?p=8540108#post8540108

There are those who are so attached to this terminology that they will argue for it, no matter what The Magisterium of The Catholic Church says.
 
Here is another good exposition of what The Holy See says about this:
Though the terms have been used, they have not been officially defined. In fact, the Vatican has stated that because terms such as Mediatrix and Co-Redemptrix are confusing, the faithful are free to accept more than one definition.
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There are a number of good threads on the forum regarding this very issue. If you do some quick searching, you will likely find some. Here are a couple that I remember from a while back: forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=568148 & forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=215070

I believe the best way to look at Mary is in the manner that Pope Benedict describes in his book on her and leave it at that: “Mary’s main role is to lead us to union with Jesus, to help us know and love Him much better and to be his true followers.”
 
It remains part of Sacred Tradition.

vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p123a9p6.htm

Pope Benedict XVI in “Theological highlights of Vatican II” also states the titles co-redemptrix" and “mediatrix of all graces” are" under the protection of papal teaching".
The Pope on Co-redemptrix 
“Yet when asked, in a 2000 interview by Peter Seewald contained in the book God and the World, whether the Church would go along with the desire to solemnly define Mary as Co-redemptrix, Ratzinger’s response doesn’t look good.

He says that the title Co-redemptrix “departs to too great an extent from the language of Scripture and of the Fathers and therefore gives rise to misunderstandings” (53). He also says that “for matters of faith, continuity of terminology with the language of Scripture and that of the Fathers is itself an essential element; it is improper simply to manipulate language” (54). “

From Mark Shea’s blog:
Another title sometimes used to honor Mary is “Co-Redemptrix.” It’s not an “official title.” It’s just an expression of piety among some Catholics. And it affords a fairly typical example of the way in which the Church mulls things over for long time (usually centuries) before it makes any hard and fast decisions. At present, the Church doesn’t condemn the title, but it doesn’t encourage it either. A few years ago, Pope Benedict XVI (then Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger) was asked about the many petitions Rome has received asking that Mary be formally declared “Co-Redemptrix.” He replied:
“I do not think there will be any compliance with this demand, which in the meantime is being supported by several million people, within the foreseeable future. The response of the Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith is, broadly, that what is signified by this is already better expressed in other titles of Mary, while the formula “Co-redemptrix” departs to too great an extent from the language of Scripture and of the Fathers and therefore gives rise to misunderstandings. … A correct intention is being expressed in the wrong way. For matters of faith, continuity of terminology with the language of Scripture and that of the Fathers is itself an essential element; it is improper simply to manipulate language.”

So does this mean the Church condemns those who honor her by this title? No. It just means that Pope Benedict is (rightly) worried non-Catholics will not understand the “correct intention” behind the title. So the title remains, for the foreseeable future, something Catholics may use if it matters to them (providing they rightly understand what it means) but it’s not something one finds in the Church’s liturgy or dogma.

Read more: ncregister.com/blog/jittery-about-mary/#ixzz1djmLpVYa
 
So does this mean the Church condemns those who honor her by this title? No. It just means that Pope Benedict is (rightly) worried non-Catholics will not understand the “correct intention” behind the title.
Let us assume your supposition is correct. Are you sure the adjective “rightly” is proper here? I mean, are you sure the Pope should be concerned about what Christians in material heresy (sorry, I mean “not in full communion”) will or will not understand when speaking about matters regarding the Church?

See, the focus is to be on the Church, and indeed I think the comments of Pope Benedict on this issue were for the sake of Catholics alone. After all, protestants deny the Communion of Saints, so for them “co-redemptrix” or “semi-redemptrix” or “quasi-redemptrix” is nothing more than a technicality and Roman Catholic nonsense.
 
Actually if you pay close attention we see Mary and the Holy Spirit working together. When Mary visits Elizabeth, Elizabeth is inspired by the Holy Spirit in praise of Mary, John is sanctified.

At Cana she intercedes for Christs first miracle. Which was a prompting of the Holy Spirit.

At the Cross Christ gives us His Mother as Our Mother and seeing all things were finished He gives up His Spirit.

The infant Church at pentacost Mary was present with the disciples.

These two gifts made by Jesus from the Cross, (Mary and the Holy Spirit) are intimately connected, inseparable from each other; the Spirit is present wherever the action of the Most Blessed Virgin takes place.
Good post. I would just add one more example of the connection between the Holy Spirit and Mary: the conception of Jesus.
 
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