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"The Spirit gives life, the Flesh profits nothing" John 6:63
Some protestants I know, tend to cite as supposed “proof” that the we aren’t supposed to eat Jesus’ Flesh on the Eucharist because it profits us nothing. But is this interpretation correct? That Jesus’ flesh is of not profit for us? Not so. Not even protestants truly believe that Jesus’ flesh profits us nothing, because they believe that his sacrifice on the Cross is key for our salvation. Thus his flesh profits us salvation. Because it was his Flesh which was hung on the Cross.
What these protestants don’t seem to realize is that Jesus isn’t talking about his Flesh on John 6:63, he is talking about ours. Compare these verses:
“Watch and pray so that you will not fall into temptation. The spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak.” Matthew 26:41
“Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit.” John 6:63
Romans 8:1-17:
“Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, because through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit who gives life has set you free from the law of sin and death. For what the law was powerless to do because it was weakened by the flesh, God did by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh to be a sin offering. And so he condemned sin in the flesh, in order that the righteous requirement of the law might be fully met in us, who do not live according to the flesh but according to the Spirit. Those who live according to the flesh have their minds set on what the flesh desires; but those who live in accordance with the Spirit have their minds set on what the Spirit desires. The mind governed by the flesh is death, but the mind governed by the Spirit is life and peace. The mind governed by the flesh is hostile to God; it does not submit to God’s law, nor can it do so. Those who are in the realm of the flesh cannot please God. You, however, are not in the realm of the flesh but are in the realm of the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, they do not belong to Christ. But if Christ is in you, then even though your body is subject to death because of sin, the Spirit gives life because of righteousness. And if the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead is living in you, he who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies because of his Spirit who lives in you. Therefore, brothers and sisters, we have an obligation—but it is not to the flesh, to live according to it. For if you live according to the flesh, you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the misdeeds of the body, you will live. For those who are led by the Spirit of God are the children of God. The Spirit you received does not make you slaves, so that you live in fear again; rather, the Spirit you received brought about your adoption to sonship. And by him we cry, “Abba, Father.” The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God’s children. Now if we are children, then we are heirs—heirs of God and co-heirs with Christ, if indeed we share in his sufferings in order that we may also share in his glory.”
As you can see the verses shown above use the words “Spirit and Flesh”, just like Jesus used them in John 6:63. In context, we could say that the Flesh is in reality our flesh (condemned by sin), and profits us nothing. Therefore Jesus did not say his flesh profits us nothing, rather ours.
Consider the following verses which actually point out that not only are we to eat Jesus’ flesh, but also that it in fact profits us a lot:
1-“I am the living bread that came down from heaven. Whoever eats this bread will live forever. This bread is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.” John 6:51
Does the last verse sound like his flesh profits us nothing? No. His flesh was given for the life of the world.
2-“Very truly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life…" John 6:53-54
Does the last verse sound like his flesh is of no profit for us? No. He in fact said his flesh gives us eternal life…
Therefore, if any protestant uses John 6:63 as supposed proof that we aren’t suppose to eat Jesus’ flesh, id recommend you to:
Question him/her whether Jesus’ flesh profits us much or not. If he/she says it doesn’t, then he doesn’t believe that Jesus’ sacrifice is key for our salvation. If he/she says it does in fact profits us much, then make the person know the distinction between Jesus’ flesh (which was given on the Cross) and ours.
If you would like to see more on the topic, see the video which explains more:
youtube.com/watch?v=UWVjUSA7eeU
Some protestants I know, tend to cite as supposed “proof” that the we aren’t supposed to eat Jesus’ Flesh on the Eucharist because it profits us nothing. But is this interpretation correct? That Jesus’ flesh is of not profit for us? Not so. Not even protestants truly believe that Jesus’ flesh profits us nothing, because they believe that his sacrifice on the Cross is key for our salvation. Thus his flesh profits us salvation. Because it was his Flesh which was hung on the Cross.
What these protestants don’t seem to realize is that Jesus isn’t talking about his Flesh on John 6:63, he is talking about ours. Compare these verses:
“Watch and pray so that you will not fall into temptation. The spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak.” Matthew 26:41
“Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit.” John 6:63
Romans 8:1-17:
“Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, because through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit who gives life has set you free from the law of sin and death. For what the law was powerless to do because it was weakened by the flesh, God did by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh to be a sin offering. And so he condemned sin in the flesh, in order that the righteous requirement of the law might be fully met in us, who do not live according to the flesh but according to the Spirit. Those who live according to the flesh have their minds set on what the flesh desires; but those who live in accordance with the Spirit have their minds set on what the Spirit desires. The mind governed by the flesh is death, but the mind governed by the Spirit is life and peace. The mind governed by the flesh is hostile to God; it does not submit to God’s law, nor can it do so. Those who are in the realm of the flesh cannot please God. You, however, are not in the realm of the flesh but are in the realm of the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, they do not belong to Christ. But if Christ is in you, then even though your body is subject to death because of sin, the Spirit gives life because of righteousness. And if the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead is living in you, he who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies because of his Spirit who lives in you. Therefore, brothers and sisters, we have an obligation—but it is not to the flesh, to live according to it. For if you live according to the flesh, you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the misdeeds of the body, you will live. For those who are led by the Spirit of God are the children of God. The Spirit you received does not make you slaves, so that you live in fear again; rather, the Spirit you received brought about your adoption to sonship. And by him we cry, “Abba, Father.” The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God’s children. Now if we are children, then we are heirs—heirs of God and co-heirs with Christ, if indeed we share in his sufferings in order that we may also share in his glory.”
As you can see the verses shown above use the words “Spirit and Flesh”, just like Jesus used them in John 6:63. In context, we could say that the Flesh is in reality our flesh (condemned by sin), and profits us nothing. Therefore Jesus did not say his flesh profits us nothing, rather ours.
Consider the following verses which actually point out that not only are we to eat Jesus’ flesh, but also that it in fact profits us a lot:
1-“I am the living bread that came down from heaven. Whoever eats this bread will live forever. This bread is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.” John 6:51
Does the last verse sound like his flesh profits us nothing? No. His flesh was given for the life of the world.
2-“Very truly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life…" John 6:53-54
Does the last verse sound like his flesh is of no profit for us? No. He in fact said his flesh gives us eternal life…
Therefore, if any protestant uses John 6:63 as supposed proof that we aren’t suppose to eat Jesus’ flesh, id recommend you to:
Question him/her whether Jesus’ flesh profits us much or not. If he/she says it doesn’t, then he doesn’t believe that Jesus’ sacrifice is key for our salvation. If he/she says it does in fact profits us much, then make the person know the distinction between Jesus’ flesh (which was given on the Cross) and ours.
If you would like to see more on the topic, see the video which explains more:
youtube.com/watch?v=UWVjUSA7eeU
