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Timothysis
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Knowing the attitude and opinion that the SSPX has for Pope John Paul II, do SSPX chapels celebrate the Divine Mercy Sunday Mass, along with the praying of the Divine Mercy Chaplet? Just curious.
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At_Trent
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I glanced at a very pro-SSPX forum and there is acknowledgement of DMS with links to prayers and such. The OP isn’t being stoned for it. 
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Timothysis
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Very interesting. Thanks!I glanced at a very pro-SSPX forum and there is acknowledgement of DMS with links to prayers and such. The OP isn’t being stoned for it.
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RosaryCrusader
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The question is a little slanted since the FSSP, SSPX, ICK etc. all use the 1962 calendar which doesn’t include Divine Mercy Sunday - DM being a new feast day in the Church.
My FSSP Chapel didn’t acknowledge it either since it’s not part of their books. Doesn’t mean anything one way or the other. The main objective is for each individual to meet the requirements of Divine Mercy Sunday if they want the benefits of it.
My FSSP Chapel didn’t acknowledge it either since it’s not part of their books. Doesn’t mean anything one way or the other. The main objective is for each individual to meet the requirements of Divine Mercy Sunday if they want the benefits of it.
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franklinf
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Yeah, agreed with the above posters. SSPX celebrates Low Sunday, as Divine Mercy isn’t part of the 1962 Calendar. That being said, there are Divine Mercy prayer cards available.
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Abenadar
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Do tell…
SSPX uses the 1962 missal…This feast day isn’t in that missal. I know that my chapel only prays the rosary and the seven sorrows chaplet as a group (since my church is O.L. of Sorrows), but I know people who privately pray the DM chaplet.
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Ockham
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The Novus Ordo I went to yesterday made no mention of Divine Mercy.
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ProVobis
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From the 1962 missal, Low Sunday is “The Octave Day of Easter or Dominica in Albis. This Sunday is called from the first words of the Introit, the Sunday of Quasimodo, or Sunday in Albis (deponendis) because the neophytes on that day put aside their white garments. In English the term Low Sunday is in contrast with Easter or High Sunday. Another Latin name Pascha clausam…close of Easter, this Sunday ending the Octave…”
That said, the first I ever heard of the term Divine Mercy was in an “independent” chapel saying the Tridentine Mass. They recited the Divine Mercy there before every Mass.
That said, the first I ever heard of the term Divine Mercy was in an “independent” chapel saying the Tridentine Mass. They recited the Divine Mercy there before every Mass.
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Lujack
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That’s too bad. I really like Divine Mercy Sunday; our pastor gave a sermon on the importance of mercy (obviously), and then announced that they were having a special benediction at 3:00 in the afternoon with the Divine Mercy Chaplet being said. I wasn’t able to make it, but I got the impression that there would be a large number going.
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Friar_David_O.Carm
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The Ordo for the Second Sunday of Easter lists the day as the Second Sunday of Easter or Divine Mercy Sunday, so I believe that it is optional.
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Timothysis
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In case some have not noticed, the Church did not end in 1962.
Will those groups that use the old calender ever incorporate the feast days created after 1962?
Will those groups that use the old calender ever incorporate the feast days created after 1962?
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Abenadar
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Nor did it begin in 1969, in case some have not noticed.
I don’t know, but the possibility is always there.
Will the people who use the new callendar re-incorporate feasts that have disappeared from before 1969 (such as St. Christopher)?
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ProVobis
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Or get rid of “Ordinary Time”?
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franklinf
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Timothysis, this is quite the low. You have made a post in the “Traditional Catholic Forum” with the sole intent of beating the SSPX and other traditional groups over the head.
Whats even more ridiculous is that 1) as other posters have pointed out the reverse holds and 2) Divine Mercy is a completely optional feast.
Second Sunday of Easter or Divine Mercy Sunday
usccb.org/liturgy/current/2010cal.pdf
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Timothysis
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Oh, good grief. Can you ever let go of the “us vs. them” attitude? I asked a legitimate question and the “Traditionalists” defense shields go up. By the third post I’m already getting that “the question is slanted.”
I’ve been told by moderators that if I don’t like something in a thread, then don’t read it. I have every right to post in the “Traditional Catholic Forum” as anyone else, so if it bothers you, then don’t read it. I have read every slander imaginable against the OF without a pang of conscience from many here, so I’m not particularly worried if something I said gives you a ruffled feather or two. If that sounds rude, then I’m sorry but I’m so sick and tired of seeing everything going one way here.
Also, there are millions upon millions of Catholics today who attend the OF and celebrate the sacraments who consider themselves “Traditional Catholics.” If you are bothered by them posting in this forum then I suggest you petition CAF to create a separate forum for those who do not wish to see the post-1962 Church. I have already made the suggestion and was denied but if enough ask, who knows?
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RoryMcKenzie56
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Timothysis,
As to your objection, no one has the authority to revise the calendar of the 1962 Missal without the Pope. Of course this hasn’t been done before because of the long held proposition by those who despise the Old Mass that the Old Mass had been abrogated. Don’t blame the Traditionalists for what the popes have failed to do from 1962 until the Motu Proprio just a few years ago, admitting finally that the Old Mass has always been licit in the Latin Rite and will continue to be so.
Traditional Priests can’t just change the calendar and willy nilly make up their own. They have to go with the calendar of the Mass they are saying. Presumably, some of the later feast days will be incorporated at a proper time with the approval of the proper authorities.
Our SSPX chapel had announcements at both Masses reminding the faithful it was Divine Mercy Sunday.
As to your objection, no one has the authority to revise the calendar of the 1962 Missal without the Pope. Of course this hasn’t been done before because of the long held proposition by those who despise the Old Mass that the Old Mass had been abrogated. Don’t blame the Traditionalists for what the popes have failed to do from 1962 until the Motu Proprio just a few years ago, admitting finally that the Old Mass has always been licit in the Latin Rite and will continue to be so.
Traditional Priests can’t just change the calendar and willy nilly make up their own. They have to go with the calendar of the Mass they are saying. Presumably, some of the later feast days will be incorporated at a proper time with the approval of the proper authorities.
Our SSPX chapel had announcements at both Masses reminding the faithful it was Divine Mercy Sunday.
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palmas85
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Since the SSPX uses the 1962 or previous Missals from what I am told, I would imagine that they would not celebrate the Divine Mercy Sunday Mass or chaplet as they were not in existence at that time. The exception to that may be in other independent chapels, not of the SSPX where things tend to run the gamut.
In the case of FSSP and other approved Traditional Mass institutions, I doubt that they would either for the exact same reasons. In fact, I would think that there would be even less chance of finding it there as those groups are totally restricted to the 1962 Missal by mandate from Rome. They cannot add or subtract from it.
I’m curious Tim, just how does the SSPX feel about Pope John Paul II?
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SunnaB16
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If you folks don`t mind another question being slid in:
Does the SSPX recognise the legitimacy of the Luminous Mysteries of The Holy Rosary?
Poor Fr. Gruner doesn`t.
Does the SSPX recognise the legitimacy of the Luminous Mysteries of The Holy Rosary?
Poor Fr. Gruner doesn`t.
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palmas85
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Well since no one anywhere has to pray the Luminous Mysteries it seems like a moot point how they feel about them. I know many people who would never even set foot in an SSPX Chapel, and attend only Ordinary Form Masses that don’t pray them or accept them either. At my old Parish in San Diego for example there was a daily rosary. They never said them. And as far as I know still do not. The leaders said they were an unnecessary addition that detracted fro the Rosary itself.
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Shin
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I tried the Luminous Mysteries for awhile, but now I tend to lean with that sentiment. I tend to think it’s better to have the 3 traditional series of mysteries, and let people choose what tangents to go on their meditations themselves, preferably from the traditional mysteries.
Pope John Paul IInd and company liked to change everything, couldn’t leave anything alone.
As for DM, I know some FSSP priests celebrate it, some do not.
At this point in my Faith journey I’ll celebrate it, but I do have concerns about it too. Hopefully I’ll relieve those concerns in future rather than confirm them.
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