The Statue Dream in Daniel 2:31-46

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My friend is a Christadelphian who interprets this one way, of course they somehow twist it to include the Catholic Church. Here are just my thoughts which I responded to him.

It has been suggested the kingdoms referred to in the text are as follows:

The head represents the Babylon - Gold
Chest – Persia - Silver
Belly – Greece - Bronze
Legs of Iron – Rome – Iron –
Feet of Iron and Clay - ???

For me to understand the “clay” aspect of the feet, I go first and foremost to the Bible

What does the Bible tell us about clay
Gen 2:7
the LORD God formed man out of the clay of the ground and blew into his nostrils the breath of life, and so man became a living being

Isaiah 64:8
Yet, O LORD, thou art our Father; we are the clay, and thou art our potter; we are all the work of thy hand.

So in the above two verses “man” is the clay and God created us.

God being the potter.

In the context of Isaiah though, is he speaking more specifically about the Israel people?

I don’t know how you may read the Bible but when I see a unique phrase such as “potters clay” I look elsewhere (see above) to get a better understanding of this term

Daniel 2:41 speaks of the clay as the potters clay – within the Biblical context I suggest this refers to the people of God – the Jews of the OT?

[41] And as you saw the feet and toes partly of potter’s clay ……

When Daniel wrote this, do you think he knew the writings of Isaiah and what the unique phrase “potters clay” meant?

I also note all of the above materials are metal that represent kingdoms except the last one which is clay.

If metals represent kingdoms, what does clay represent Biblically speaking?

If the stone cut out of the mountain represents Jesus and it is this stone that smashes on the feet of iron and clay then it makes sense to me that this represents the Romans and Jews that joined together to put Jesus to death.

When the Stone and the feet of iron and clay “clash” at the Crucifixion and Resurrection of Jesus, history was changed for ever.

What happened it was the beginning of the end of the Roman empire which is no more and the “clay apocalypse” that was predicted in Mark 13 came to pass and the stone became a great mountain that filled the whole earth, as per Jesus instruction in the Great Commission.

I would be interested to know if you have thought of it this way at all.
 
Golden head: Babylon
Silver breast and arms: Medean Empire
Copper belly and thighs: Persia
Iron legs: Greece
Feet of Iron and Clay: The divided Greek kingdoms of the Ptolemies and Seleucids

Dont let anyone ever try to convince you that the Iron legs are Rome, that is hogwash, and nonsense.
 
Golden head: Babylon
Silver breast and arms: Medean Empire
Copper belly and thighs: Persia
Iron legs: Greece
Feet of Iron and Clay: The divided Greek kingdoms of the Ptolemies and Seleucids

Dont let anyone ever try to convince you that the Iron legs are Rome, that is hogwash, and nonsense.
Why is that nonsense?

Especially given that, as far as I know there never was free standing median empire.

God Bless
 
Golden head: Babylon
Silver breast and arms: Medean Empire
Copper belly and thighs: Persia
Iron legs: Greece
Feet of Iron and Clay: The divided Greek kingdoms of the Ptolemies and Seleucids

Dont let anyone ever try to convince you that the Iron legs are Rome, that is hogwash, and nonsense.
Don’t forget that Jesus claimed Daniel for his generation

"When you see the desolating abomination spoken of through Daniel the prophet standing in the holy place (let the reader understand), then those in Judea must flee to the mountains (Mt 24:15-16)

Often times in the Old Testatment, the events of fulfilled prophecy( that you cited) become prophecy of a more significant events (events of Jesus generation). So it can refer to both. Just like Abraham said God woud provide a sacrifice in place of Isaac. It immediately refered to a goat caught in the brush but it pointed to the greater fulfillment Christ.
 
Many of the Early Fathers interpreted verse 34-35 to refer to the Church’s Catholicity:

While you looked at the statue, a stone which was hewn from a mountain without a hand being put to it, struck its iron and tile feet, breaking them in pieces.
The iron, tile, bronze, silver, and gold all crumbled at once, fine as the chaff on the threshing floor in summer, and the wind blew them away without leaving a trace. But the stone that struck the statue became a great mountain and filled the whole earth.
 
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