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LittleDeb
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Awesome! I am forwarding it to my parents who were students at Santa Clara in the 60’s. They knew somethin’ was up!
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puzzleannie
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link too slow, I’ll check out the article later and there is no way to quote the quote, but the interviewer implies that because Catholics believe in original sin they may not believe that man is basically good. Catholic doctrine is that man is created good, and human nature is essentially good but has been corrupted by original sin. Original sin is removed by baptism, rendering man a new creation restored to this innocence, but still damaged by the effects of original sin, such as concupiscence and subject to the evils of this world such as bodily death.
to imply that the doctrine of original sin demands that man is basically evil is a misstatement and sloppy simplification of the doctrine. based on the fact that the interviewer is injecting this sloppiness into the questions, if I do get the link to work I will read the interview carefully.
went outside and got the interview, very good story, now I would like to see the research, but then, we already have that don’t we in the subsequent history of religious orders and in the sex abuse crisis which was furthered and enabled by these same therapists. I have unfortunately direct personal experience of what happened with the Mercies and the Jesuits. This is not the whole story, but it is a big part of the story.
to imply that the doctrine of original sin demands that man is basically evil is a misstatement and sloppy simplification of the doctrine. based on the fact that the interviewer is injecting this sloppiness into the questions, if I do get the link to work I will read the interview carefully.
went outside and got the interview, very good story, now I would like to see the research, but then, we already have that don’t we in the subsequent history of religious orders and in the sex abuse crisis which was furthered and enabled by these same therapists. I have unfortunately direct personal experience of what happened with the Mercies and the Jesuits. This is not the whole story, but it is a big part of the story.
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Catholic29
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The Story of a Repentant Psychologist
In the following interview with Dr. William Marra, Dr. William Coulson discusses his role in the destruction of Catholic religious orders, and his subsequent change of mind.
MARRA: The story begins with your graduate education, doesn’t it?
*COULSON: *Oh, yes. I went to Notre Dame in the late 50’s, for a doctorate in philosophy, and wrote my dissertation on Carl Rogers’ theory of human nature. There was an interesting controversy at the time, about, whether Rogers, who was probably the most prominent American psychologist of his day, believed that every man is totally good. So I wanted to compare Rogers with B.F. Skinner, the famous behaviorist, and with Sigmund Freud, the founder of psychoanalysis.
MARRA: Stop right there. Were you a Catholic at the time?
COULSON: Oh, yes.
MARRA: And Notre Dame was Catholic?
COULSON: Notre Dame was Catholic! I got a good education in Thomistic philosophy.
MARRA: Didn’t it occur to you that as a faithful Catholic you couldn’t buy the idea that men are basically good? Didn’t original sin mean anything to you?
COULSON: It wasn’t my task then to be a critic of Rogers’ theory. I wanted to find out what he taught; and having read everything that I could get my hands on, I contacted him at the University of Wisconsin.
MARRA: I see; okay.
COULSON: At the time Rogers was at the University of Wisconsin Psychiatric Institute. He had gotten a grant from the National Institute of Mental Health, to test his theory of nondirective counseling.
MARRA: Now put that in plain English.
continued: cfpeople.org/Apologetics/page51a080.html
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Eileen_T
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I agree with puzzleannie.
Lucifer’s nature remains good, as God created him. It is his will that changed. In the same way, when God created man He saw that it was very good. Man’s nature remains good, but sometimes his actions are not. In this he goes against his nature.
Lucifer’s nature remains good, as God created him. It is his will that changed. In the same way, when God created man He saw that it was very good. Man’s nature remains good, but sometimes his actions are not. In this he goes against his nature.
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