The sung Our Father

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It just occurred to me yesterday that, because we go to the Latin Mass almost exclusively (99% of the time), the next time we are at a NO Mass we won’t know the responses! :cool:

Guess we will need to study up before that happens so we don’t sound like strangers. :o

~Liza
 
The topic has deviated from the OP, it’s OK, but please if anybody has an answer to my original question, it would be much appreciated.
 
domandcarols said:
I’ve never heard anyone sing the Our father. o.0
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I’ve heard it sang every Sunday at a local Eastern Catholic Church.

It could be sang every weekend at Roman Catholic Churches – I’ve heard it done before, even when the Pope wasn’t around. 🙂
 
TheMc said:
That’s sad. Very sad.
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We used to sing it in my parish but I said a silent prayer of thanks when we stopped that. Not, I should note, because I don’t like to sing the Lord’s Prayer, but because they sang it to the tune of “I Don’t Know How to Love Him” from Jesus Christ Superstar and the words of that song always, always popped into my head instead of “Our Father, who art in Heaven…”
 
Phemie said:
We used to sing it in my parish but I said a silent prayer of thanks when we stopped that. Not, I should note, because I don’t like to sing the Lord’s Prayer, but because they sang it to the tune of “I Don’t Know How to Love Him” from Jesus Christ Superstar and the words of that song always, always popped into my head instead of “Our Father, who art in Heaven…”
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Ugh! That’s just . . . ugh!

We occasionally sing/chant it to the same melody used on the EWTN Masses.
 
Barbkw said:
Yes, what they picked is difficult to sing with the leader (most people are only willing to embarass themselves singing off key and out of pitch a couple of times a song).

Honestly, it’s as if the choir took the new Missal as an opportunity to “show off” their musical ability and left the lay people in the pew to listen to them sing.

Your Glory to God is beautiful and easy to learn.
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One of the parishes I attend has a complicated Gloria too. I have wondered how many variations there can be. The other parish has always had very simple tunes and has not changed the Gloria melody at all, just added one or two words. The first parish, it’s like a different song completely.

Is there a book that’s issued, of possible variations, and the individual parish music director can just pick what they want to do? These 2 parishes could not be more different in their approach to music in the Mass.

As for the sung Our Father…the orthodox parish, never as far as I can tell. The less orthodox, we used to sing it but now have stopped, thank God! And since I attend the other parish for weekday Mass, I have stopped holding hands and I sure don’t miss that!
 
TheRealJuliane said:
One of the parishes I attend has a complicated Gloria too. I have wondered how many variations there can be. The other parish has always had very simple tunes and has not changed the Gloria melody at all, just added one or two words. The first parish, it’s like a different song completely.

Is there a book that’s issued, of possible variations, and the individual parish music director can just pick what they want to do? These 2 parishes could not be more different in their approach to music in the Mass.

As for the sung Our Father…the orthodox parish, never as far as I can tell. The less orthodox, we used to sing it but now have stopped, thank God! And since I attend the other parish for weekday Mass, I have stopped holding hands and I sure don’t miss that!
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There is no book of all mass settings ever, no. I imagine you could look through compilations of lists online, but no list will be absolutely exhaustive. There are tons of mass settings, from most musical styles, throughout the ages. Wiki “mass setting.”
 
The parish I grew up in used the Our Father in the psalm tone you can find in most hymnals. Then one lent retreat guy introduced a new one (a campy version) which I don’t like, though it fit with the parishes personality at the time.

At the parish I attended in NY they would often use this one. Pretty but it did not allow the priest to say the prayer in between the Our Father and the “for thine” part. So it was probably illicit.
 
TheRealJuliane said:
One of the parishes I attend has a complicated Gloria too. I have wondered how many variations there can be. The other parish has always had very simple tunes and has not changed the Gloria melody at all, just added one or two words. The first parish, it’s like a different song completely.

Is there a book that’s issued, of possible variations, and the individual parish music director can just pick what they want to do? These 2 parishes could not be more different in their approach to music in the Mass.
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I can only speak for the England and Wales, but in terms of congregational (as opposed to choral) mass settings, there is usually a list of approved settings, and sometimes local dioceses decide individually what provision will be available locally. These settings do vary in complexity. My own parish uses different settings at different masses and also rotates settings according to the liturgical year.
 
I have heard it several times> There is a chant we used to use in an Illinois diocese. We won’t go into the pop recording. There were a couple of beautiful ones in Hawaii, one written by a local person (music that is) and sung in many of the churches where we attended Mass there,(3-4 islands), and another in the Hawaiian language that is on a CD we have, The latter was more like a chant. It is on a Brothers Casimero Christmas album. All were beautiful and reverent.
 
zab said:
We use the same tune but our music is not with notes that we usually see in the song books but squares like this:
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:).I am a new Catholic and I have always thought mass was beautiful. But, I think it is amazing that they are going back to the origional format.When they sing the prayers,it is so heart warming and spiritual for me.----blessings-Kelly O’Mara
 
mfrances said:
There is nothing wrong with singing it, but we are not to be adding words or extra sounds to it.

It’s like when Hosanna is sung, “God of power, God of might” is NOT correct. It is “God of power and might”
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Actually, God of Power and might is not even correct.

It should be God of hosts, and it should be clear that we are not addressing the Lord in the vocative case, but are describing him. The text is taken from Isaiah 6:3, which in turn describes what the seraphim declare about God.
 
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